1 3-dimethylamylamine (DMAA) Side effects?

[JolietKev]

My bad I just looked at my bottle of BLACK CATS (that I am loving BTW) it has natural caffeine in it but I'm guessing nowhere near the amount of caffeine thats in things like jack3d.

Natural stimulants are still stimulants.

[AvengeMe]

When you cycle off of Jack3d, try using Controlled Lab's White Flood. It's stimulate free. It's a great pre-workout without 1-3 in it. And it only contains natural caffeine from cocoa bean extract. Gives you the same effect of feeling like Zues without the caffeine high.

White flood isn't stim free bro.

[naturalguy]

I do appreciate the input guys.


I am planning on giving Animal Rage a try soon since they do not have the 1,3 in it. Hopefully the focus it gives me will be good so I can never use 1,3 products anymore because it is not worth the depressing feeling.

Anyone tried any other PreWO that do not contain the 1,3 and still give comparable focus?

One of the reasons we came out with Animal Rage was because we felt there was a void, there didn't seem to be any supplements that were as strong as those with 1,3 in it. We wanted something that would be as strong but without the side effects and we delivered big time.

Animal Rage is very strong yet it's long lasting and no sides, no crashes, no stim dick. The increased focus on it is awesome, you feel "locked in" every workout.

[bmontgomery87]

White flood isn't stim free bro.

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[redbirdfan1]

Nobody knows how to use search???

[Universal Rep]

another bad thing about 1,3 dymeth is that i build a tolerance to it really fast usually.

With Animal Rage, just one scoop is all ya need and it's a small scoop.


For anyone interested, early reviews and logs for Animal Rage... Check out many of the comments and the lack of side effects like crashes. We think u get the best of both worlds... Great energy and focus without the sides... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=132239423

[Kyled427]

With Animal Rage, just one scoop is all ya need and it's a small scoop.


For anyone interested, early reviews and logs for Animal Rage... Check out many of the comments and the lack of side effects like crashes. We think u get the best of both worlds... Great energy and focus without the sides... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=132239423

Wow! Sounds really good to me! Wish I could get my hands on a sample



But really, I am off of the 1,3 for now and its a good thing because it was becoming a problem. I need to give a supplement without it a try for sure.

[STEELVEINS]

i fukcing love 1,3. i feel like a god on it. however, heart palps are no bueno, so no more 1,3 for me.

i agree the heart palpatations are god awful

[Universal Rep]

Wow! Sounds really good to me! Wish I could get my hands on a sample



But really, I am off of the 1,3 for now and its a good thing because it was becoming a problem. I need to give a supplement without it a try for sure.

Yup. Great focus and energy without the crash, etc. Haha, everybody's been askin' about samples. Sub here... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=132237223

[Dude.Jon]

Caffeine doesn't make you depressed. It's the DMAA. Take a supplement that has no DMAA and some caffeine. TBH I drink a coffee or two before I workout. The music I listen to gets me as pumped as I need to be.

[Kyled427]

Yup. Great focus and energy without the crash, etc. Haha, everybody's been askin' about samples. Sub here... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=132237223

I know i know, I was making a joke because I posted there and contacted you on UniversalUSA website as well cause your PMs were full

[Universal Rep]

I know i know, I was making a joke because I posted there and contacted you on UniversalUSA website as well cause your PMs were full

Haha, fair enough.

Fill out this form here for ur sample of Animal Rage. Give it 4-6 weeks tho... http://universalnutrition.com/rage/

[Kyled427]

Excellent.

That should be perfect amount of time for me to cycle off of stims anyway so that I stay in good health.

[Universal Rep]

Excellent.

That should be perfect amount of time for me to cycle off of stims anyway so that I stay in good health.

Def cycle off current stims before usin' Animal Rage... And start off small, mebbe 1/2 scoop...

[Kyled427]

Def cycle off current stims before usin' Animal Rage... And start off small, mebbe 1/2 scoop...

Certainly will, and I have been reading that 1/2 scoop is the sweet spot for a lot of people. That is great to hear because being a broke college student, getting 80-something servings out of the tub will be outstanding.

[Universal Rep]

Certainly will, and I have been reading that 1/2 scoop is the sweet spot for a lot of people. That is great to hear because being a broke college student, getting 80-something servings out of the tub will be outstanding.

Honestly for me, I was usin' 1/2 a scoop myself... Yup. 88 servings at 1/2 a scoop ain't too shabby.

[tur0ktony]

Tried a black ultra concentrate hemo rage sample:
Side effects
- Crash, loss of appetite, sore stomach (acid), light headed, bloated.
Was fine the day i had it felt good. Next 2 days i suffered the side effects.

[IamJonsCranium]

i fukcing love 1,3. i feel like a god on it. however, heart palps are no bueno, so no more 1,3 for me.

This is me on caffeine. Well, I never feel good on it, just the palpitations then a crash and more palpitations.

I was very irritable all the time until I got off caffeine.

[Core11]

With regard to the question of whether or not DMAA is naturally occurring, you can see a memo on the FAQ page found at usplabsdirect.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2267&d=1320423988 which details that yes, it is.

[KimJong-il]

With regard to the question of whether or not DMAA is naturally occurring, you can see a memo on the FAQ page found at usplabsdirect.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2267&d=1320423988 which details that yes, it is.

There has been updates on this controversy recently in regards to linking DMAA to Geranium Oil.

SILVER SPRING, Md. (August 11, 2011) -- The American Herbal Products Association (AHPA) recently announced a trade requirement for the labeling of products containing the ingredient 1,3-dimethylamylamine (DMAA).

The trade requirement, which becomes effective on January 13, 2012, requires that AHPA members do not label 1,3-dimethylamylamine, whether identified by this name or any synonym, as geranium oil or as any part of the geranium plant, whether by the common name of geranium or by the botanical name of any plant known as geranium. Nothing in the new requirement prevents labeling of any compound that is in fact derived from geranium plant materials by that compound's common or usual name.

"AHPA's new policy is limited only to labeling of products that contain DMAA as an ingredient," said Michael McGuffin, AHPA's president. "Some news reports have indicated, or appear to indicate, that AHPA has reached the conclusion that DMAA cannot be found in geranium oil. AHPA has reached no such conclusion."

In an August 8 statement to announce this policy, AHPA referenced a review of one published study that reported DMAA as a naturally occurring constituent of the geranium species, Pelargonium spp. In this announcement, AHPA inadvertently stated that there are no known-published reports indicating that DMAA is a natural product. This was a misstatement since the announcement noted the study, by Pinget al. (Ping Z, Jun Q, Qing L. A study on the chemical constituents of geranium oil.Journal of Guizhou Institute of Technology 1996;25:82-85), which identified the presence of DMAA in geranium.

In the interim, AHPA has been informed by an analytical chemist and an AHPA member that they have initiated new research on the chemistry of geranium. Both have reported that their preliminary results indicate the presence of DMAA, and some effort to validate these results is now planned.

[Deadich]

DMAA is a stimulant euphoric drug, so of course you get high if the dose is big enough for your body. Some people need a higher dose, some need smaller.

[th3futur3]

Feeling like god > stim dick. I am out of college...no girls here...gimme more 1,3!

[justinvb_657]

Curious as to how animal rage would compare to APS mesomorph that I take.I build up a tolerance pretty quickly to it but when it works its insane

[US_Ranger]

1,3 makes me feel like I'm a meth addict or something. I hate that feeling. Plus, I usually feel like absolute **** about 5 hours after taking it.

[bomfire]

lol really?
i have never gotten high, i was just pissed off from 1mr and tingly
after i crashed (when i didnt even finish lifting) i was so tired and dead. felt like ****

after 20 or so mins tingles went away. was pretty dissapoint. im considering never buying prewo again until i hit a plateau. i seriously think i get more energy from listening to music, or motivation that is

..this^...I have never experienced feeling of euphoria from 1,3 dim. Rumor has it MM stacked w/ ******* gives you super intense pumps / feelings of euphoria. SRS SRS SRS SRS SRS






























..not srs

[joshdmoore13]

I took jacked for a while before working out and did experience the high feeling. I felt so good while working out and often crashed afterwards. I later tried it before fball practice for a few weeks and thats when things got bad. I got VERY depressed but didnt have any clue that jacked was mostly to blame until i got off of it and felt better then went back on and same thing happened. Havent took any since.

[Jwilliams2]

I feel all the same effects, happy, energized like the energizer bunny, could run forever. I don't really crash as a matter fact it keeps me up so long which sucks but sometimes I do experience a down feeling after the energy wears off and sometimes I just remain in a good mood and extra talkative

[pierced1m]

You are correct. If you are consuming strait DMAA extract there is usually no side effects of the heart palpitations etc.. I have been consuming it for over a year, on and off, with no problems. NOW, as for working out on it...I guess I should lower the dose since I am consuming well over 100mg at a time. See, DMAA is a sister analog of Ecstasy MDMA and in larger doses it can really intoxicate but it's "fat burning" ability is still present since it is causing a larger release of norepinephrine. And this **** really does good for my metabolism (ie ~10lbs a month of fat loss with minimal working out). I totally agree with you that it is probably the caffeine coupled with the other additives in those supplements. If you are looking to try to add this to your workout "stack" get it off of amazon. I recently purchased 50grams for ~$40, and that's about 500-1000 doses depending on if you are taking 50-100mg a pop.

Dude it's probably the huge amounts of caffiene, try a product that has 1,3 dymeth and no caffiene. Works for me no crash or emo like moods.

[pierced1m]

GOTO amazon and buy the pure extract

What product has 1,3 and no caffeine in it?

[thompkins238]

Try ALARM its a new sup. it is the same price as jack3d and it give the energy of jack3d with the pump of c4 . On my third day so far and workouts are still intense but I don't go home and watch paint dry like jack3d will make you do!
Jack3d and USP Labs have a lawsuit out on them for 1,3-d . You can fin info about it on google