Calories Vs Protein Vs Carbs Vs Fat... which is more important?

[livinnstix]

I have been trying harder to maintain a decent diet. I downloaded the Total Metabolism Forecaster and used that to help me with the macro-nutrition.

The problem is I keep running out of Carbs before Im full of calories, protein, or fat. Recommendations please?

Current stats:
Age: 23
Weight: 232 (Goal: 220)
Height 70" (5' 10")
Exercise: Running and weightlifting burning roughly 400 calories a night (60 min)

Im trying to maintain:
2500 Calories
220 Protein
141 Carbs
107 Fat

Attached is my food intake for yesterday, but it represents basic daily intake. I just started using excel.

[darkmanx11]

Calories are most important bro. You eat over your maintenance your going to gain weight. You eat less than maintenance you lose weight. As long as your hitting your calories you will be fine bro. As far as running out of carbs, use some type of meat source for your protein. For fat down some olive oil or get some Natty PB. Basically no carbs from those sources

[braggable]

I have been trying harder to maintain a decent diet. I downloaded the Total Metabolism Forecaster and used that to help me with the macro-nutrition.

The problem is I keep running out of Carbs before Im full of calories, protein, or fat. Recommendations please?

Current stats:
Age: 23
Weight: 232 (Goal: 220)
Height 70" (5' 10")
Exercise: Running and weightlifting burning roughly 400 calories a night (60 min)

Im trying to maintain:
2500 Calories
220 Protein
141 Carbs
107 Fat

Attached is my food intake for yesterday, but it represents basic daily intake. I just started using excel.

Macros are most important.
Try to get about 1.0-1.5g of Protein per LBW ( Eat more kogi, lol)
about 0.45-1.0g fat per LBW
THEN fill in the rest of your target calories with carbs.

Good luck pal.

[livinnstix]

Appreciate the reply guys. Ill try adjusting the foods Im intaking, its hard to eat to certain numbers and stay on a budget. So far Ive been losing 2-3lbs a week and Im happy withthe results.

@ braggable I eat Korean food but they make me look sad how healthy they eat here. I try to stay away from the meat, never know for sure what that chicken on a stick really is cause they eat dog certain places here.

Still open to different perspectives if anyone wants to add to the reply's.

[AlwaysTryin]

Macros and calories are one in all in the end. Fit your required macros in your caloric goal and therefore you are hitting the caloric requirement too each day by hitting those numbers.

I.e if the goal is 2000 calories, get your protein and fat requirements, fill the rest how you please and hit that each day. Therefore no need to "count calories" as hitting your macros is doing that

[YeomenKek]

Red vs Blue vs Orange vs Green... which is more important?

[franko man]

Red vs Blue vs Orange vs Green... which is more important?

this example makes me feel that NONE are important.. yet we all know how significant calories, proteins, fats are..

[YeomenKek]

this example makes me feel that NONE are important.. yet we all know how significant calories, proteins, fats are..

Spoiler: They're all as important as each other and this thread is stupid.

Edit: @Below comment
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[Joseph1990]

Fat and protein are essential to sustain life.

[Newbiewar]

Macros are most important.

This is correct... if you hit your macros you'll also hit your calorie requirement... so make sure your aiming for certain grams of each macro not percents...

no macro is any more important than the other, so all need to be considered according with your goals. Each macro helps your body in a certain way, and like the post below me states the body is capable without carbs, but not fat or protein... Still Carbs should be considered because they provide energy(FWIW, I eat less than 30 per day)

[mannydawg]

if anything protein and fat can be said to be the most important because they are the only ones that are essential to survive. One's body is capable of living without carbs if it has too

[determined4000]

Red vs Blue vs Orange vs Green... which is more important?

strongly disagree
No cals for 10 days-->death
no protein--> lose muscle
no fat--> brain and hormones down tubes
no carbs--> lower energy

[Newbiewar]

strongly disagree
No cals for 10 days-->death

I'm quite certain the human body is capable of sustaining itself for longer periods than 10 days without food(not water)
while not recommended, there are instances in history that prove this.

10 Political Prisoners in Ireland Lived 46 to 73 days before succumbing to lack of food
12 individual starvation protestors Two lost tongues, 1 lost feet, 7 on kidney dialysis
Many war prisoners Lived 28 to 40 days with no food
World War II concentration camps With only 300 to 600 calories per day, many thousands did not have enough food to survive more than a few months at best.
Terminally Ill patients Live 10-days to 3-weeks without food depending upon initial heath
Obese Can live from 3-weeks up to 25-weeks and more without food depending upon initial health and amount of fat
Mahatma Gandhi Survived a 3-week fast while in his 70's

http://www.survivaltopics.com/surviv...-without-food/

[YeomenKek]

strongly disagree
No cals for 10 days-->death
no protein--> lose muscle
no fat--> brain and hormones down tubes
no carbs--> lower energy

It seemed that OPs question was in terms of resulting body composition, in which case I still believe they all play separate roles that are just as important as one another.

But if everyone wants to keep 'proving me wrong', you'd be much better off just linking me this. Rofl.

[determined4000]

It seemed that OPs question was in terms of resulting body composition, in which case I still believe they all play separate roles that are just as important as one another.

But if everyone wants to keep 'proving me wrong', you'd be much better off just linking me this. Rofl.

if you are suggesting carbs are as essential as protein or fat, I dont think you understand what essential implies.

[YeomenKek]

if you are suggesting carbs are as essential as protein or fat, I dont think you understand what essential implies.

It seemed that OPs question was in terms of resulting body composition, in which case I still believe they all play separate roles that are just as important as one another.

But if everyone wants to keep 'proving me wrong', you'd be much better off just linking me this. Rofl.

inb4 more people don't read my post and think I'm talking about survival.

Also
opinions.jpg

[determined4000]

inb4 more people don't read my post and think I'm talking about survival.

Also
opinions.jpg

in terms of body comp you think protein and carbs are = in importance????

[YeomenKek]

in terms of body comp you think protein and carbs are = in importance????

Certainly.

In terms of body comp
-No calories? No mass
-No protein? No mass
-No carbs? No pump, flat physique
-No fat? Dry, flaky skin

As I said, each have their own role and have their own importance. Again opinions.jpg

In terms of survival (to avoid any further confusion)
-No calories? Dead
-No protein? Dead
-No carbs? You'll live
-No fat? Dead

[determined4000]

Certainly.

In terms of body comp
-No calories? No mass
-No protein? No mass
-No carbs? No pump, flat physique
-No fat? Dry, flaky skin

As I said, each have their own role and have their own importance. Again opinions.jpg

In terms of survival (to avoid any further confusion)
-No calories? Dead
-No protein? Dead
-No carbs? You'll live
-No fat? Dead

no protein and you cant build or maintain muscle
no carbs and you can
tell me how the person building and maintaining muscle wont have better body comp

[YeomenKek]

no protein and you cant build or maintain muscle
no carbs and you can
tell me how the person building and maintaining muscle wont have better body comp

Again, each have their own role and importance + this is purely my opinion to which I've explained my reasoning for. You have a different one? Fantastic. You or anyone else's agreement with mine is purely up to you. Unfortunately I have better things to do then sit on the internet and go through further interrogation to justify my opinion.

I'm quite done posting in this thread.

[Simmo0508]

All play a pivotal role in bodybuilding. All are important equally. Always place emphasis on all aspects, in life in general.

Just like muscle groups themselves. Focus on all areas, not just chest and biceps for example. Focus on the whole package. It all comes together as one.

[psychodiver9]

Certainly.

In terms of body comp
-No calories? No mass
-No protein? No mass
-No carbs? No pump, flat physique
-No fat? Dry, flaky skin

As I said, each have their own role and have their own importance. Again opinions.jpg

In terms of survival (to avoid any further confusion)
-No calories? Dead
-No protein? Dead
-No carbs? You'll live
-No fat? Dead

Then how do you explain people doing keto and building muscle?

[Gabriel01]

Red vs Blue vs Orange vs Green... which is more important?

Green?

[YeomenKek]

Then how do you explain people doing keto and building muscle?

I can say with 100% honesty I have absolutely no idea how you derived the idea that I think people doing Keto cannot build muscle from that quote. Check link in my sig, rofl.

[livinnstix]

I appreciate about half of those replys lol. The reason I was asking was because I was hitting my goal for grams of Carbs before I was hitting my fat or protein as well as calories, but from what Ive read I need to adjust what I am eating and try to maintain all of the nutrition equally.

I also like green as the most important color.

Thanks for the reply everyone and sorry for stirring up a flame war.