Kobe is not a "stand out" player

[joelz54_99]

mid range shot=excellent
3pt=average
assists=average
steals=average
rebounds=average
defense=average
free throws=good
cry baby=excellent

He proved he was not a stand out player when the Lakers were losing after Shaq left. The Lakers went out and shopped for players that could elevate Kobe's game.

I feel he's in the bunch with Amare, D-wade, Paul Pierce, Durant, Bosh, etc. He's not a player that's above the rest.

[Iczer]

In before GPx

[fitmember]

But is he clutch??

[TaeBoNinja]

Kobe is the most skilled player in the history of the NBA.

[joelz54_99]

Kobe is the most skilled player in the history of the NBA.

I just don't see it bro. I've been watching basketball for 20 years. He's good, no doubt, but what he mostly does is get those extra points by prying calls from the refs.

[Bigjay10.0]

Kobe is the most skilled player in the history of the NBA.

Whoaaaaa there..... you must be smoking the same sh*t as this guy.

[Kulenovic]

He's the most skilled player in NBA history. Not gifted, Lebron is the most gifted. When it comes to hard work and improving your skills each and every year, nobody comes close to Kobe. He's 32 years old, although a lot of miles already, has a few more years to go. If he retired right now, he'd be considered top 5 of all time by MANY. He's got a few more years to work on his legacy and they way he'll improve on that is by winning championships and undoubtfully being #1 scoring all time.

[DBluez]

He is the most clutch player in the NBA and that's what makes some people see him as above the rest since he can score when the game is on the line. Also when he's scoring, it seems like he can put up points effortlessly outshining everyone else. Also he carried Kwame Brown, Brian Cook, Smush Parker on his nutsack to the playoffs.

[tmc.]

Joelz has spoken. Accept the facts.

[eljobber]

mid range shot=excellent
3pt=average
assists=average
steals=average
rebounds=average
defense=average
free throws=good
cry baby=excellent

He proved he was not a stand out player when the Lakers were losing after Shaq left. The Lakers went out and shopped for players that could elevate Kobe's game.

I feel he's in the bunch with Amare, D-wade, Paul Pierce, Durant, Bosh, etc. He's not a player that's above the rest.

[joelz54_99]

He is the most clutch player in the NBA and that's what makes some people see him as above the rest since he can score when the game is on the line. Also when he's scoring, it seems like he can put up points effortlessly outshining everyone else. Also he carried Kwame Brown, Brian Cook, Smush Parker on his nutsack to the playoffs.

I can't even remember one game where he was clutch.

[joelz54_99]

he'd be considered top 5 of all time by MANY. .

Probably, because that's what the media wants people out there to think. I just don't see it.

[Kulenovic]

I can't even remember one game where he was clutch.

[gouscfootball]

rofl really OP? According to your "analysis" Kobe is an above-average scorer who sucks at defense and gets most of his points from the FT line, sucks getting to the basket, cant make very many assists, cant get rebounds, cant steal and the only thing he does well is mid range shooting...

BRB 27,397 pts, 5744 boards, 5075 assists, 1627 steals...

thanks for the morning laugh

[Ephedra]

Trolololol.

[Love Pirate]

Kobe is the most skilled player in the history of the NBA.

this. kobe is an absolutely ridiculous scorer

[1stChanceToLose]

we postin in a rolls bread?

[Ecnewyx]

mid range shot=excellent
3pt=average
assists=average
steals=average
rebounds=average
defense=average
free throws=good
cry baby=excellent

He proved he was not a stand out player when the Lakers were losing after Shaq left. The Lakers went out and shopped for players that could elevate Kobe's game.

I feel he's in the bunch with Amare, D-wade, Paul Pierce, Durant, Bosh, etc. He's not a player that's above the rest.

If by "stand out" you mean he doesn't standout in any specific category... I guess. As a complete player he does almost everything well. And if you're making the comparison, here are comparisons using career numbers ranked against players at his position in 2011 (acknowledging that Kobe is on the downslide stat-wise):

assists=average/good: Kobe averages 4.7 assists per game, good for 34th in the league among all guards. If we only consider players at his position, Kobe would be top 5 or so among all shooting guards. (Although for a guard the number of assists is a function of the offense you play in more than anything else.)

rebounds=excellent: Kobe averages 5.3 rebounds per game, which would be good for third among all guards in 2011. Unless you're telling me that being one of the top 3 rebounders at his position is "average"?

defense=excellent: Let's be serious here: he wasn't 8x All-NBA Defensive 1st, and 2x All-NBA Defensive 2nd because his defense was "average".

[1stChanceToLose]

If by "stand out" you mean he doesn't standout in any specific category... I guess. As a complete player he does almost everything well. And if you're making the comparison, here are comparisons using career numbers ranked against players at his position in 2011 (acknowledging that Kobe is on the downslide stat-wise):

assists=average/good: Kobe averages 4.7 assists per game, good for 34th in the league among all guards. If we only consider players at his position, Kobe would be top 5 or so among all shooting guards. (Although for a guard the number of assists is a function of the offense you play in more than anything else.)

rebounds=excellent: Kobe averages 5.3 rebounds per game, which would be good for third among all guards in 2011. Unless you're telling me that being one of the top 3 rebounders at his position is "average"?

defense=excellent: Let's be serious here: he wasn't 8x All-NBA Defensive 1st, and 2x All-NBA Defensive 2nd because his defense was "average".

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this man is right

swag to da fullest cuzz

[dontbeaphaggot]

Best player in the game today. OP is either a retard or troll

[SeeYaHaters]

O, it's a Joelz thread.

[batman15]

The only people that are disagreeing are the homos from LA.

Lolololol.

[dontbeaphaggot]

The only people that are disagreeing are the homos from LA.

Lolololol.

You're gonna say Kobe is on the same level as bosh? GTFO

[gouscfootball]

The only people that are disagreeing are the homos from LA.

Lolololol.

Youre a fuking ******* and all your posts are ad hominem attacks rather than making any valid claims. Being from Arkansas I can see why you're retarded tho and its not completely your fault, so I wouldn't worry about it too much...

[captain_marvel]

mid range shot=excellent
3pt=average
assists=average
steals=average
rebounds=average
defense=average
free throws=good
cry baby=excellent

He proved he was not a stand out player when the Lakers were losing after Shaq left. The Lakers went out and shopped for players that could elevate Kobe's game.

I feel he's in the bunch with Amare, D-wade, Paul Pierce, Durant, Bosh, etc. He's not a player that's above the rest.

He's is a little more outstanding then these players but he isn't as good as his cocksuckers would like to think. His defense is above average and hes a good rebounder when he wants to be but everything else you said is about right. Id crown him the best in the league right now by a very slim margin over Lebron/Wade but when Duncan and Shaq were in their primes it was easily them.

Kobe is the most skilled player in the history of the NBA.

Quit smokin

[gswarrior510]

strong retard..he has 9 All-defensive teams. Average defender my ass. Maybe this season, yeah, but not when it matters or earlier in his career.

Who shut down Westbrook after he murked Fish in Oklahoma? Exactly.

brb best scoring season ever outside of Jordan



brb he plays with NBA's best rebounders, no **** he'll have average rebounding numbers..And even then he's the top 5 rebounder out of all guards.

brb troll thread

[Ephedra]

The only people that are disagreeing are the homos from LA.

Lolololol.

You live in Arkansas. Whatever you say you still have to wake up in hicktown probably sleeping next to your sister.

This your family?

[batman15]

You're gonna say Kobe is on the same level as bosh? GTFO

Youre a fuking ******* and all your posts are ad hominem attacks rather than making any valid claims. Being from Arkansas I can see why you're retarded tho and its not completely your fault, so I wouldn't worry about it too much...

Y'all madddddddddd.

[SpiderSense]

While that is a good video, it left out the entire first half of his career.

[batman15]

You live in Arkansas. Whatever you say you still have to wake up in hicktown probably sleeping next to your sister.

This your family?

U madddddddddddddddddddd.