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    Thumbs up The Neverending Story: Cellucor gets Matz'd

    TheMatzah is back and ready to bring it with the most explosive combo on the market today. Huge props go out to MikeCellucor for giving me the great honor of this log, appreciate it more than you know.


    Product Info:
    Cellucor's C4 Extreme is powdered energy. Harnessing unparalleled NO3 technology and exclusive ingredients including creatine nitrate, L-dopa, and xanthinol nicotinate, C4 Extreme is more advanced than any pre-workout supplement in its class, possessing the power to ignite your mind, muscles, and workout regimen, workout after workout after workout.

    What is NO3? NO3 is nitrate, an advanced compound that delivers unbelievable muscle pumps and amplifies the effectiveness of every ingredient in C4 Extreme. Cellucor is utilizing a new compound in which NO3 has been fused to creatine to create creatine nitrate; according to a UCLA study, creatine nitrate is 1000x more water soluble than either creatine monohydrate or other creatine derivatives. Unmatched water solubility ensures better absorption and absolutely none of the traditional side effects of creatine supplementation.

    You will have more energy than you ever imagined possible from a supplement. You will get that extra rep and complete that last set, detonating any previous strength, endurance, and physique personal bests.

    Cellucor’s P6 Extreme is a revolutionary Test Booster that harnesses an advanced 3 in 1 formula to skyrocket testosterone levels, block estrogen, and minimize DHT conversion in a single product. P6 Extreme delivers unmatched strength and lean muscle mass gains, amplified libido, enhanced energy levels and metabolism in a single, all-inclusive product.

    P6 Extreme’s exclusive, comprehensive formula eliminates complicated dosing schedules and the need to ‘cycle’ on/off (PCT). In fact, because of the 3:1 exclusive formula, P6 Extreme is the ultimate, legal PCT option.

    Cellucor’s P6 Extreme utilizes ovine placenta powder, a natural HCG agonist. Most test boosters are simple, herbal based formulas designed to supplement test production—P6 Extreme makes the body make more testosterone AND contains the most potent form of tribulus out there as a secondary measure of testosterone supplementation.

    What is Estrogen and DHT and why do I care?

    A problem arises with simply raising testosterone levels. The body seeks balance, and the additional testosterone gets rendered inactive, broken down, and converted in to estrogen and DHT. Ultimately, results will be diminished, and side effects such as gynecomastia and male pattern baldness abound.

    Cellucor’s P6 Extreme blocks estrogen and DHT, maximizing the test to estrogen ratio, ensuring unmatched results on cycle, and eliminating the need to take additional products post cycle.

    Log Format:
    I'll be making weekly posts as I'm starting the log today at the end of week 1. C4 is an amazing pre-workout supplement, probably the best I've ever had. P6 is powerful test booster which I've been advised will probably start to show it's teeth nearing the end of week 2. Therefore weekly posts makes the most sense. I did a C4 review when it was in it's beta phase back in December 2010 which was on http://c4-extreme.com/ via the promo going on thru Facebook. I was blown away, it's amazing.

    I'll be reviewing: 1) taste 2) mix-ability 3) power/effectiveness 4) side effects (if any)
    5) overall mood/aggression/progress in the gym and out (if any). By that I mean if I notice any extra aggression during day-to-day life, in training it's needed and vital.

    The workout routine I started when I started this stack is from the icon himself, Charles Glass. It's lost gold on this site 'Gettin' Cut with Glass'. Videos are here:http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/glasscut0.htm
    It's a 6 day routine, which is what I prefer. These workouts are amazing, and very effective. I've gained a ton of knowledge from just watching them..Enjoy and welcome!

    Week 1 Stats:

    1) Taste is incredible with C4, P6 caps are easy to swallow, no taste. 2 caps in the morning, and 2 caps before bed each night.

    2) Mix-ability of C4 is perfect, I use 3 scoops (high stim tolerance) in about 8 oz of cold water, and sometimes cold OJ as I just read recently that OJ helps flush the NO into the muscles quicker.

    3)C4 is powerful, each workout has been intense, killed back and rear delt this morning. Amazing stuff.

    4)Side effects, none to report.

    5) Overall mood/aggression/progress in the gym has been awesome, making gains, going up in weight. No complaints. Outside the gym, calm as a cucumber and staying productive at work. Overall it's been a great week.

    Stay tuned for Week 2 report..

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    Hey, bro I am doing a Log for Mike and Cellucor using P6, M5, and R3. You sure check it out and sub. I will sub yours!
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    Originally Posted by TheMatzah View Post
    TheMatzah is back and ready to bring it with the most explosive combo on the market today. Huge props go out to MikeCellucor for giving me the great honor of this log, appreciate it more than you know.


    Product Info:
    Cellucor's C4 Extreme is powdered energy. Harnessing unparalleled NO3 technology and exclusive ingredients including creatine nitrate, L-dopa, and xanthinol nicotinate, C4 Extreme is more advanced than any pre-workout supplement in its class, possessing the power to ignite your mind, muscles, and workout regimen, workout after workout after workout.

    What is NO3? NO3 is nitrate, an advanced compound that delivers unbelievable muscle pumps and amplifies the effectiveness of every ingredient in C4 Extreme. Cellucor is utilizing a new compound in which NO3 has been fused to creatine to create creatine nitrate; according to a UCLA study, creatine nitrate is 1000x more water soluble than either creatine monohydrate or other creatine derivatives. Unmatched water solubility ensures better absorption and absolutely none of the traditional side effects of creatine supplementation.

    You will have more energy than you ever imagined possible from a supplement. You will get that extra rep and complete that last set, detonating any previous strength, endurance, and physique personal bests.

    Cellucor’s P6 Extreme is a revolutionary Test Booster that harnesses an advanced 3 in 1 formula to skyrocket testosterone levels, block estrogen, and minimize DHT conversion in a single product. P6 Extreme delivers unmatched strength and lean muscle mass gains, amplified libido, enhanced energy levels and metabolism in a single, all-inclusive product.

    P6 Extreme’s exclusive, comprehensive formula eliminates complicated dosing schedules and the need to ‘cycle’ on/off (PCT). In fact, because of the 3:1 exclusive formula, P6 Extreme is the ultimate, legal PCT option.

    Cellucor’s P6 Extreme utilizes ovine placenta powder, a natural HCG agonist. Most test boosters are simple, herbal based formulas designed to supplement test production—P6 Extreme makes the body make more testosterone AND contains the most potent form of tribulus out there as a secondary measure of testosterone supplementation.

    What is Estrogen and DHT and why do I care?

    A problem arises with simply raising testosterone levels. The body seeks balance, and the additional testosterone gets rendered inactive, broken down, and converted in to estrogen and DHT. Ultimately, results will be diminished, and side effects such as gynecomastia and male pattern baldness abound.

    Cellucor’s P6 Extreme blocks estrogen and DHT, maximizing the test to estrogen ratio, ensuring unmatched results on cycle, and eliminating the need to take additional products post cycle.

    Log Format:
    I'll be making weekly posts as I'm starting the log today at the end of week 1. C4 is an amazing pre-workout supplement, probably the best I've ever had. P6 is powerful test booster which I've been advised will probably start to show it's teeth nearing the end of week 2. Therefore weekly posts makes the most sense. I did a C4 review when it was in it's beta phase back in December 2010 which was on http://c4-extreme.com/ via the promo going on thru Facebook. I was blown away, it's amazing.

    I'll be reviewing: 1) taste 2) mix-ability 3) power/effectiveness 4) side effects (if any)
    5) overall mood/aggression/progress in the gym and out (if any). By that I mean if I notice any extra aggression during day-to-day life, in training it's needed and vital.

    The workout routine I started when I started this stack is from the icon himself, Charles Glass. It's lost gold on this site 'Gettin' Cut with Glass'. Videos are here:http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/glasscut0.htm
    It's a 6 day routine, which is what I prefer. These workouts are amazing, and very effective. I've gained a ton of knowledge from just watching them..Enjoy and welcome!

    Week 1 Stats:

    1) Taste is incredible with C4, P6 caps are easy to swallow, no taste. 2 caps in the morning, and 2 caps before bed each night.

    2) Mix-ability of C4 is perfect, I use 3 scoops (high stim tolerance) in about 8 oz of cold water, and sometimes cold OJ as I just read recently that OJ helps flush the NO into the muscles quicker.

    3)C4 is powerful, each workout has been intense, killed back and rear delt this morning. Amazing stuff.

    4)Side effects, none to report.

    5) Overall mood/aggression/progress in the gym has been awesome, making gains, going up in weight. No complaints. Outside the gym, calm as a cucumber and staying productive at work. Overall it's been a great week.

    Stay tuned for Week 2 report..

    TheMatzah......out.
    I have been lifting for a few months with no supplements , just protein powder if i dnt have a meal. Ive gotten great gains, and lost fat. all my sleeves had been filled on all my shirts, and all my friends say i look bigger. Theres even people tthat think i took mdrol or prohormones n im lyk wtf? i didnt even take creatine LOL. I feel lyk after growin so much i mite hit a plateau soon. n i went to gnc n tried this. he gave me a c4 sample. AMAZING. all lifts , strength , focus and pump was up. i cant imagine liftin today w/out it. so could i take preworkout just to break plateaus?

    for example, i hit a plateau in a week. i take c4 for 2 weeks and completely break it n start growing. then i stop taking it. then i hit another plateau in 2 months. n i take it till i break it again. wud that b fine? or wud i lose gains?

    cuz i dnt c how id lose gains since its not a full creatine product.
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    Originally Posted by miniman511 View Post
    I have been lifting for a few months with no supplements , just protein powder if i dnt have a meal. Ive gotten great gains, and lost fat. all my sleeves had been filled on all my shirts, and all my friends say i look bigger. Theres even people tthat think i took mdrol or prohormones n im lyk wtf? i didnt even take creatine LOL. I feel lyk after growin so much i mite hit a plateau soon. n i went to gnc n tried this. he gave me a c4 sample. AMAZING. all lifts , strength , focus and pump was up. i cant imagine liftin today w/out it. so could i take preworkout just to break plateaus?

    for example, i hit a plateau in a week. i take c4 for 2 weeks and completely break it n start growing. then i stop taking it. then i hit another plateau in 2 months. n i take it till i break it again. wud that b fine? or wud i lose gains?

    cuz i dnt c how id lose gains since its not a full creatine product.
    I imagine it'd be ok, as pre-workouts are recommended to cycle off anyways. I assume you wouldn't drop the intensity or weight amount? But why not stay on C4 for about a month then cycle off for 2 weeks?
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    Yeah bro definitely stay on for a month or two then cycle off. It'll help alot!
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    Originally Posted by bstoehrball7 View Post
    Yeah bro definitely stay on for a month or two then cycle off. It'll help alot!
    I agree, C4 is the best pre-workout supp I've used. Period.

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    Thumbs up Week 2 Entry: C4 & P6

    Week 2 Stats:

    W'sup everyone, it's TheMatzah checking back in with you to report my week 2 stats. So far it's been a great experience. C4 never fails, every workout has been on point. I actually anticipate each dose of P6 each morning and night. It's become part of my routine. 2 caps morning before the gym, and another 2 before bed each night, so easy a caveman could do it.


    1) No major change in this category. The taste of C4 is incredible, and the P6 capsules have no taste, but they do go down easy with any type of beverage.

    2) The mix-ability of C4 is still perfect, I'm still switching up from 8oz-10oz of cold water to OJ

    3) Cellucor's C4 is powerful, non-jitters, natural feeling pre-workout supplement that does not fail me. Each workout has been intense, had a great leg session earlier today.

    4) Side effects, zero to date.

    5) Overall mood/aggression/progress has been very on point. I've just finished week 3 of Charles Glass' --cutting with glass-- it's been a great routine. I highly recommend it to anyone looking for something new, and quick, very effective training methods. Just do a search on this site and you'll find the videos. Study them, I guarantee you will love them and get results within 2 weeks. Of course, add Cellucor's C4 and P6 to your current stack. I've had several buddies that haven't seen me in a few weeks that told me I look different, leaner and definitely bigger, as far as muscle bulk and size. All good stuff to report!

    I've got limited time to report in so expect an update on this entry in the next 48 hours.

    [u]Update:/[u] Some additional thoughts to add to this week's entry.
    * Have I noticed a strength increase: Yes
    * I honestly feel the P6 is now kicking in as Mike advised it would. My weight used has been going up the past few days, the routine I'm doing is great, and muscle feel fuller longer. I'm not sure if those are all benefits of P6, but it's new to me and I like it. There hasn't been any trouble getting focused when training and I'm able to push myself and wake up faster when I first start a session (7am). Outside of the gym, I do not feel aggressive by any means, very normal and chill.


    Stay tuned for Week 3 report..

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    hey bro, just wondering if you have ever taken ACG3 and how you can compare it to C4, im goin to buy a pre workout supp tommorow, and those are the two that seem the best, in terms of energy can you compare them by the amount of energy they give by sccop? thanks alot bro!

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    Originally Posted by gerge28 View Post
    hey bro, just wondering if you have ever taken ACG3 and how you can compare it to C4, im goin to buy a pre workout supp tommorow, and those are the two that seem the best, in terms of energy can you compare them by the amount of energy they give by sccop? thanks alot bro!

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    Honestly, I haven't heard of ACG3. I just looked it up, seems a bit pricey for that size amount. I'm sure it's a decent product but I have no personal experience with it as a pre-workout supp. I swear by C4. Since December 2010 in the beta run of it, till present day..I have not had one bad workout or experience with C4. Do you have a high stim tolerance? I do, so I use 3 scoops in 8-10 oz of water or OJ. I'd say try C4, I saw there's a good 2 for 1 deal on Bodybuilding.com store right now, you can beat that! It's a solid product from Cellucor, a company with an A+ reputation. They don't create shady or bad products.

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    thanks for the response matzah, the guy at the GNC store said that he tried them both and said that ACG3 did the trick for him and he has a high stim tolerance, he said he had to use 2 scoops of C4 as apposed to 1 scoop ACG3 for energy, but that sounds odd because when i look on the labels it seems that C4 has a better energy blend, and i believe he was trying to push it on me beacuse it is more expensive. as for me i have never take pre workouts before, but i have sampled the D4 pill by cellucor and noticed that it was a quality product, i am leaning more towards buying the C4 but am hesitant that it will not be very energizing, any thoughts with the added info?!? thanks alot man!

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    Originally Posted by gerge28 View Post
    thanks for the response matzah, the guy at the GNC store said that he tried them both and said that ACG3 did the trick for him and he has a high stim tolerance, he said he had to use 2 scoops of C4 as apposed to 1 scoop ACG3 for energy, but that sounds odd because when i look on the labels it seems that C4 has a better energy blend, and i believe he was trying to push it on me beacuse it is more expensive. as for me i have never take pre workouts before, but i have sampled the D4 pill by cellucor and noticed that it was a quality product, i am leaning more towards buying the C4 but am hesitant that it will not be very energizing, any thoughts with the added info?!? thanks alot man!

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    It doesn't surprise me at all, not to dog GNC or anything, they do have great products....BUT most of their employees don't even 'live the lifestyle' it's a sales job or 9-5'er for them. I've only met two employees in 8 yrs that actually train or use the products they're pushing. Advice: switch to The Vitamin Shoppe or just buy your stuff online here, these forums are an awesome source of knowledge as I'm sure you know. Nobody here that isn't a company rep is trying to push a product for a sale or commission.

    C4 works wonders for me, energy and definitely added mental focus is huge. I remember my first few times training with it back in December, I was in the zone. It felt like everyone and everything around me was mentally blocked out. It was perfect. Still is.

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    Looking good bro, I really wish I could try C4. I can't take stims, they give me migraines that are horrendous. My log starts this Monday, I'm really jacked for it. I was going to start this week, but the college I go to was hosting the NCAA Division 3 Track and Field Championships and closed the facility. Do you think they will make a C4 Stim Free?
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    Looking good bro, I really wish I could try C4. I can't take stims, they give me migraines that are horrendous. My log starts this Monday, I'm really jacked for it. I was going to start this week, but the college I go to was hosting the NCAA Division 3 Track and Field Championships and closed the facility. Do you think they will make a C4 Stim Free?
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    M5 will have a stim free option, and we also will have N03 Black Chrome...this will be stimulant free and contain ingredients like Arginine Nitrate. Just got my alpha bottles in today
    Wow I was just looking to buy some N0 Extreme, but wasn't sure if it is stimmed. I have to get that NO3 Black Chrome. When does this come out?
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    Thanks bro, i figured he was just trying to push it on me to get some more commission, so im definitely goin with C4 now, as for GNC, i dont think i will buy from there, but there is a local new shop that just opened i might try to go there and pick it up for a bargain since its not a branch or any of that! once again thanks alot for the help man, and ill be sure to keep you up to date with my experience with it!

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    Originally Posted by MikeCellucor View Post
    M5 will have a stim free option, and we also will have N03 Black Chrome...this will be stimulant free and contain ingredients like Arginine Nitrate. Just got my alpha bottles in today
    W'sup Mike!! Thxs for stopping by..if you need some 'beta' after your 'alpha'...hit me up!
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    Talking Week 3 Update: C4 & P6

    1) Taste: C4 is great, I've only tried the Fruit Punch flavor but just got the new final release of C4 orange flavor, plan to start that when fruit punch is finished..probably another week or two.

    2) Mix-ability: No change here and no complaints. Mixes well, and very quickly, no chunks, residue or anything negative. Ever.

    3) Power/Effectiveness: Can I just say this again? C4 is the best pre-w/o supp I've ever used. It never fades, the focus, pump and endurance doesn't leave you 1/2 way thru the training. It's just a perfect supp!!!!!

    4) Side effects, there's still zero to date. Excellent!

    5) Overall mood/aggression: In the gym it's been great, every training session since my last update has been awesome. The only exception was one morning when I was very tired from lack of sleep and didn't eat enough pre-training. I need food in the morning before working out or I'm not fully into it. I still got in, and trained but you know that feeling of just going thru the motions even though you're moving weight, you just don't feel it like you usually do? That was my bad, but I did make up for it the next morning.

    Outside of the gym, I'm still the very chill, easy-going guy that I always am. No aggressiveness or uneasy feelings at all from P6. I feel completely normal. As Mike U said, after week 2 I felt it kick in: libido is def up, muscle fullness is up, strength/stamina is up too. I actually broke some PR's this past week.

    Lat Pulldown: 200 lbs
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    there might be one other one, I'll have to look for my notes & then update the log.

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    Hey bro,

    just wondering...are you using the 2nd gen p6 that you show in the picture or the new p6 chrome series? I'm curious to hear from someone taking the 3rd gen p6. I took the 2nd gen and had great results. Thanks
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    Hey bro,

    just wondering...are you using the 2nd gen p6 that you show in the picture or the new p6 chrome series? I'm curious to hear from someone taking the 3rd gen p6. I took the 2nd gen and had great results. Thanks
    What kinda results did you get in your run? This is my first time with P6.
    Good eye...it's 3rd Gen. I didn't even notice that in the pic, thanks for catching that!
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    Originally Posted by TheMatzah View Post
    What kinda results did you get in your run? This is my first time with P6.
    The crazy "results not typical" kind. I'm doing the same thing - taking c4 and p6 together. I put on 10 lbs in 4 weeks. The biggest thing I notice is the day long pumps - particularly in my arms. 8 hours after a lift I look like I just stepped out of the gym. I'd normally attribute this to a preworkout but I was taking c4 for a week before the p6 and that was new. The difference in vascularity is amazing.

    I didn't have test levels tested or anything, but I definitely feel an increase in aggression. Took around 10 days to fully "kick in" (God help anyone in rush hour traffic). Nothing obnoxious - it comes and goes.

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    Originally Posted by gsmith838 View Post
    The crazy "results not typical" kind. I'm doing the same thing - taking c4 and p6 together. I put on 10 lbs in 4 weeks. The biggest thing I notice is the day long pumps - particularly in my arms. 8 hours after a lift I look like I just stepped out of the gym. I'd normally attribute this to a preworkout but I was taking c4 for a week before the p6 and that was new. The difference in vascularity is amazing.

    I didn't have test levels tested or anything, but I definitely feel an increase in aggression. Took around 10 days to fully "kick in" (God help anyone in rush hour traffic). Nothing obnoxious - it comes and goes.

    I'm pumped to hear about the new generation. Subbed in to watch the progress.
    Holy shiznit, 10lbs in 4 wks?! That's some good stuff right there, did you keep it after the run was over? Also, what kinda training do you do? These Charles Glass routines have been great..weights used has gone up in almost everything in the past 2 weeks. Lovin it.

    I've definitely noticed the increased vascularity in my forearms, huge ++ in my books. I'd love to walk around jacked all day..but doesn't have any benefits at work, stuck sitting at a pc all day...
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    Originally Posted by TheMatzah View Post
    Holy shiznit, 10lbs in 4 wks?! That's some good stuff right there, did you keep it after the run was over? Also, what kinda training do you do? These Charles Glass routines have been great..weights used has gone up in almost everything in the past 2 weeks. Lovin it.
    Training is pretty typical. 6 times a week.
    Monday chest and tris
    Tuesday legs,
    Wednesday back,
    thurs bis and shoulders,
    friday legs again,
    and saturday is kind of a technical day - i go heavy on abs, core and calves.

    Varies a bit, particularly when I get my legs in. And yea, I kept most of it. I started heavy on cardio so I dropped a couple.
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    Originally Posted by gsmith838 View Post
    Training is pretty typical. 6 times a week.
    Monday chest and tris
    Tuesday legs,
    Wednesday back,
    thurs bis and shoulders,
    friday legs again,
    and saturday is kind of a technical day - i go heavy on abs, core and calves.

    Varies a bit, particularly when I get my legs in. And yea, I kept most of it. I started heavy on cardio so I dropped a couple.
    sounds good to me, lately I haven't done much core or cardio, I need to get back on that.
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    dayum, she's a keeper!!
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    appreciate it Jerz! Glass demands respect, you see that in the vid, and his bio/career. Dude is a genius.

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    Week 4 Update: C4 & P6

    Well it's been a great week, broke a few more PR's so ya know I'm happy! Two days ago I started the 3rd Generation Chrome Series C4: Orange Flavor. Holy Sh!t, it's even better then the original Fruit Punch flavor and has a kick to it! Me likey...appreciate it Mike!

    Here's the update:

    1) taste: The new Orange C4 is amazing. Period.

    2) mix-ability: Same easy mixing as the Fruit Punch

    3) power/effectiveness: Not sure what they did to the orange but it has a kick to it.

    4) side effects: Still none to report

    5) overall mood/aggression: same as week 3, no negative mood/attitude changes


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