Matt Damon " Did you create a small business with your tax break this year"

[TheArtOfWhore]

ITT people who will never be rich argue for the rich.

ITT: People who will never be rich, or want to be rich, rationalize why the can't.

Get over yourself.

Stop feeling bad because you are pathetic.

I'm not rich. But I certainly don't think I can't be.



Your idol.

He worked hard. Was not rich at all. He came from a 2nd world country in the midst of a social crisis and a government revolution.

Its ok though you can cry all you want about it being unfair, when you don't want to work hard.

lol..pretty much

theres so much inheritance that takes place within this country...We like to believe that millionaires are created daily out of pure education and "luck"

thats just not the case

There were more millionaires created in the US since 1950 than ever in the history of the world.

Most of them were in computer science, natural gas, or oil. The new inheritance money declined compared to those individuals..

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&...page&q&f=false

[transformation2]

Got me thinking, Why do republicans want me to pay the same tax rate as lil wayne who is worth $85 million dollars+ and I made $42,000 this year and have 1,400 dollars in my bank account? Even Bill O'reilly said he would be willing to pay more taxes.

guys calm the fk down the usa tax system overall is only slightly progressive. study after study proves this.

here
1) income tax= highly progressive
2) payroll tax= regressive (gets capped therefore rich pay less %).
3) sales taxes = regressive (rich spend less % of income hence pay less %).
4) property taxes = progressive

when you include all state/federal taxes it comes out to slightly progressive.

If you want to see how the poor get help it's not through taxation but through transfer payments. Meaning who does the money collected get spent on or sent to? The answer is the poor!

So if you want to bitch, bitch about the payment of transfer. EX: Medicaid, TANF, Food stamps, federal student aid (yes u fking college students) etc.

[nakedsnake]

Stop being retarded.

Where were you when Glass-Steagall was repealed? Did you vote out the reps/senators that voted yes? Did your parents? Did your family members?

IF YOU ARE ANGRY ABOUT IT WHY DID YOU VOTE IN THE SAME WALL STREET EXECS TO RUN THE WHITE HOUSE, TREASURY, AND FEDERAL RESERVE?

If you can't find a job you aren't looking. People in the great depression could find a job. Are your parents paying for you right now? People in the great depression were paying for their parents.

Wake up queer.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html



Who do you think still owns the majority of stocks compared to the other segments. The top 1%. Who owns the most over all... the top 20%. After that? The top 50%.

The stock market is not an indicator of how YOU are doing, of how YOUR NATIONAL ECONOMY is doing. You don't own stock do you? If you do.... you don't own much?

Chill out kid. Leave econ to the people that know what they are talking about.

You don't have a job because you have too much pride to take job that an immigrant [and hopefully taxpayer] will take and do for you [real talk.]

holy **** calm down bro. Like I said I don't give a **** how much the top tier are making, I am NOT JEALOUS of that. Thanks though for the huge, outlandish attack on my intelligence, my sexuality as well as my education.

I'm not going to turn this into a huge defense for myself nor an attack against you, but the same bull**** you are printing out is the same excuse I hear from many of the rich, intelligent folk such as yourself that know oh so much about everything than I do.

All I ever wanted was to work for my money, that's what I have been doing since I was 18. Parents had no money, circumstances turned out this way, again not going to go into all that because it is irrelevant. I just want to be able to apply whatever skills I have and it's just so slow I have had to take the small jobs bud, I'm not above anything even mowing a lawn and picking peaches.

I admit I don't know much about econ/stocks, I haven't had enough wealth until recently to even think about it honestly, been too busy looking for work, and working although scarce. Consider yourself blessed you don't have to do the same my friend, upon whatever high chair you sit.

[TBEagl]

holy **** calm down bro. Like I said I don't give a **** how much the top tier are making, I am NOT JEALOUS of that. Thanks though for the huge, outlandish attack on my intelligence, my sexuality as well as my education.

I'm not going to turn this into a huge defense for myself nor an attack against you, but the same bull**** you are printing out is the same excuse I hear from many of the rich, intelligent folk such as yourself that know oh so much about everything than I do.

All I ever wanted was to work for my money, that's what I have been doing since I was 18. Parents had no money, circumstances turned out this way, again not going to go into all that because it is irrelevant. I just want to be able to apply whatever skills I have and it's just so slow I have had to take the small jobs bud, I'm not above anything even mowing a lawn and picking peaches.

I admit I don't know much about econ/stocks, I haven't had enough wealth until recently to even think about it honestly, been too busy looking for work, and working although scarce. Consider yourself blessed you don't have to do the same my friend, upon whatever high chair you sit.

u mad I agree with him but am broker than you

[DrStupid]

why dont you subtract those 10%s from the total amount and see if $37,800 compares to $76.5 million as a remainder.

Make sure you do so while comparing lifestyles too.

[someguy2000]

You dont. The highest bracket starts at $380,000 and is 35%, You pay in the 25% bracket like most middle class people do.



Derrrpp Herp herp durrrr.



So many idiots it makes my brain hurt. Pick up a fukkin book and learn what socialism is. Hint. Just having a progressive tax system is NOT socialism.



Dont ask this stuff on the misc. These guys can't balance a fukkin checkbook let alone tell you the simplest info on economics. But yes, that is how it works as far as rates go.

Do you own a buisness? Are you an economist? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

No. So your opinion is invalid. Different strategies breed different effects. Less taxes on the rich = more spending from the rich as well as influence to hire more people which equates to more consumers spending. Noone will have any idea if it will work or not, especially not you.

[nakedsnake]

u mad I agree with him but am broker than you

not mad at all I just hope youre smarter than me

[biggerplz09]

Do you own a buisness? Are you an economist? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

No. So your opinion is invalid. Different strategies breed different effects. Less taxes on the rich = more spending from the rich as well as influence to hire more people which equates to more consumers spending. Noone will have any idea if it will work or not, especially not you.

No one will have any idea if supply-side economics will work

[Voecheb]

And who is to blame for frivilous government sepnding... EVERY ONE OF US!

We allowed it to happen. We need to take our country back. The misc needs to organize! SRS

Reminds me of a quote from V for Vendetta

V: Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of the everyday routine, the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration - whereby those important events of the past, usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, are celebrated with a nice holiday - I thought we could mark this November the fifth, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?
Cruelty and injustice...intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance, coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told...if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War. Terror. Disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you and in your panic, you turned to the now High Chancellor Adam Sutler. He promised you order. He promised you peace. And all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.
Last night, I sought to end that silence. Last night, I destroyed the Old Bailey to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than four hundred years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice and freedom are more than words - they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek...then I ask you to stand beside me, one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament. And together, we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever, be forgot!

[Matt C]

You guys do realize that it's better to have wealthy Americans put their money back into the economy, rather than give it to the government, right?

Before you start crying about all the stuff they can afford to buy, such as luxury yachts, private jets, and mansions, think about all the people that helped create those things for them. My father knows of a small private business that manufactured all the doorknobs to Bill Gates's mansion. We want the rich to spend money.

Besides, if we raise the tax percentage for the super wealthy, they'll just leave. They can operate from anywhere. And before you say "let them leave," just remember who's already paying the majority of the taxes....even if it isn't a flat tax

Great post!

[styken]

Creating equality by having unequal rules for different classes is the creepiest thing I have ever heard of. They do it for races too. It's absurd.

[olazabal]

holy fuk there are some strong retards in here. Tax accounting should be a mandatory class in college

[xnitemare]

This got me thinking about all the **** that is created for no fukking reason.

Billions of dollars industry on people filing out taxes when we could have a simple tax and that wouldnt be needed

public unions lolololol

brb 30 billion dollars of taxpayer money donated by the teachers union to fund democrats.

So much waste.

Packers, you from wisconsin, this **** at the capital is ridiculous. Asking for public people to pay about 1/3 of the private sector pays and for something the never had to pay for because its there "right" as citizens not to pay, so now there all upset. Then the democrat senators leave the state because they don't want to vote on a bill. ****s stupid

**** makes me rage

[chapelthrill62]

Get off your fukkin pedestal and stop thinking you know it all. You didnt provide any rebuttal at all you ignorant POS. You are arguing that the so called "trickle down" effects work when ALL evidence shows the contrary. We have a shrinking middle class, high unemployment, stagnate wages, and guess what? Rich people are keeping more of their money that ever! How about showing some evidence to back up your claims instead of flagrant name-calling smart guy.

lolz, you do realized the way the rich get richer is by investing money correct? You do realize that when they invest it creats jobs by expanding business correct? You do realize that when you tax them they have less to invest correct? And you do realize that with less money they will invest less into the economy correct? They are rich because they made themselves that way. Or because their parents made themselves that way, it has nothing to do with you, or the government, so either go get a job or GTFO, you are entitled to nothing but the PURSUIT of happiness in this country, not a marxist share of land you fuktard.

[QT]

Answer: we do not live in a socialist society that punishes people for being successful. At least not until Obama and Hilary succeed in their mission of liberalizing the US.

Lol at saying the US is not a socialist country.

[babbagandu]

lmao

you serious?

yes

[likeke34]

All you *******s that think we should tax the rich even more, simply because they are more successful than you, need to read this:


Father & Daughter Talk

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be very liberal, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs.
The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, ?How is your friend Audrey doing??
She replied, ?Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.?
Her wise father asked his daughter, ?Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.?
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, ?That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!?

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, ?Welcome to the conservative side of the fence.?

seriously, no offense (and i mean that, no offense) and i'm not getting into what i favor but this is a VERY BAD/RETARDED comparison...

[Ecnewyx]

seriously, no offense (and i mean that, no offense) and i'm not getting into what i favor but this is a VERY BAD/RETARDED comparison...

I like the part of the story where the father told the daughter to shut the fuck up and stop thinking that just because she took a few college classes she knew anything about life. And then stopped paying for her college tuition.

[complyordie]

lol..

[beaver_canoe]

lolz, you do realized the way the rich get richer is by investing money correct? You do realize that when they invest it creats jobs by expanding business correct? You do realize that when you tax them they have less to invest correct? And you do realize that with less money they will invest less into the economy correct? They are rich because they made themselves that way. Or because their parents made themselves that way, it has nothing to do with you, or the government.

actually, it does have to do with the government. the government and the system are what allows a rich person to acquire so much wealth. without government, one could never acquire so much property.

if someone gets rich off the system, why shouldnt they pay more into the system for the less fortunate.

for all of you saying they earned it, they did not earn it their employees did. no one could get that wealthy without stealing the profits that other workers earn.

in b4 hate

[chapelthrill62]

actually, it does have to do with the government. the government and the system are what allows a rich person to acquire so much wealth. without government, one could never acquire so much property.

if someone gets rich off the system, why shouldnt they pay more into the system for the less fortunate.

for all of you saying they earned it, they did not earn it their employees did. no one could get that wealthy without stealing the profits that other workers earn.

in b4 hate

lol wut?

[TheArtOfWhore]

Why did this thread get bumped.... are you lot still arguing that lowering taxes will benefit the poor?

TAXES ARE PAID BY THE RICH.

THE RICH PAY FOR THE POOR.

TAXES ARE BASED ON REDISTRIBUTIONARY BY NATURE; IF YOU LOWER TAXES YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE POOR.

Some of you need to take basic logic 101.

x > y

y > z

x > z

For f*cks sake.

Lets not forget who FUNDS all of those liberal universities you got your pathetic degrees in. Who MADE THE COMPANIES THAT DONATED THE BUILDINGS YOU LEARNED IN. The men that went and created companies for your parents to work in...

Or do you think you average American dad could do it on his own in his own small community....

Get real.

Let this thread die, and be a realization that most of you are incredibly stupid, and have no idea what happens in the world, and you will digest whatever political tripe is fed down your throat.

You will be in favor of taxes now, and you will want less taxes later. Overall, you should be in favor of local [well spent] taxes, and entirely against national/global taxes [that nice aid we sent to iraq/iran/egypt/saudi arabia the last 50 years.]

Wake up you retards.

[cutekwnt]

>and yet the rest of you idiots buy said retarded music

>fail thesis?

>implying i buy such music

>fail assumptions

[cutekwnt]

market determines value. society/market heavily rewards stupid **** like athletes, actors, and rappers.

Exactly, and thats why the monetary system is backwards, dumb, and has to go. It goes against everything that the future will demand for us as species.

[CicadaKiller]

10% of $42,000 = $4,200

10% of $85 Million = $8.5 Million

Sound fair OP?

Yes.

If they are not going to take ten percent of his income, then why should they take ten percent of mine?

[pcproffy]

10% of $42,000 = $4,200

10% of $85 Million = $8.5 Million

Sound fair OP?

Extremely fair. If it's not good enough for you, then send the $85mil to me and I'll suffer the horrible burden.

[ToPHeR35]

Matt Damon has given over 30 million to charity u fuking *******

Matt Damon is a troll


Why should we pay more taxes when Warren Buffet doesn't even pay his!

[DMR4494]

brah, I didn't say I didn't want to be taxed I said I think rich people should pay more in taxes than i do. I don't think i should pay the same rate they do when I make 42k a year. Bill gates pays the same tax rate i do.

Bill Gates has also donated millions of dollars to charity. How much have you donated?

[tommyjesus]

Bill Gates has also donated millions of dollars to charity. How much have you donated?

you mean billions. he's donated billions.

bill gates better be more celebrated than steve jobs when he dies because he's twice the man jobs ever was.

[midniteOG]

but then i wouldnt be able to tip?