Branch Warren Trains Delts - Last Session Before Arnold

[JohnBrowne]

Evan not being responsible having a kid.

I stand by that.

So first of all, Dorian is the one thats wrong here. I'm gonna be respectful and assume the confusion was that I was referring to db shoulder press, not the barbell press that Branch was doing. If you do those right, the movement is almost completely from the contraction of the shoulders, not triceps.
If you complete the rep, locking out, once you bring the db over your head, you are using your triceps to do it. The delts are mostly out of the picture at that point.

Dorian didn't do DB shoulder presses in Blood and Guts, you okay bro?

Yep. It's the little people's way of voicing their jealousy.

That may be true for some people. Personally I'm not jealous of Branch; to be perfectly honest I would hate looking like him.

His form sucks. It is what it is. The fact that he is one of the best in the world does not change that. Some people probably bring it up because they may actually be concerned for him in that his idiotic training style may cause more injuries than it already has.

[porrapaulao]

call story bro, i like how you were made redundant from your horse riding school and now you are beating dead horses with dead horses

LOL I was actually proving the other guy was wrong, not you

[tsiparlanaeht]

Proven wrong? WTF are you talking about?

In general when you debate things.

[thesouthernson]

[QUOTE=JohnBrowne;637977853]I stand by that.



Dorian didn't do DB shoulder presses in Blood and Guts, you okay bro?





Hears the blood and guts training series. Starts around 1 minute and talks about keeping the tension on the delts.

[JohnBrowne]

Hears the blood and guts training series. Starts around 1 minute and talks about keeping the tension on the delts.

Yeah Dorian is wrong on that one. The lockout obviously involves the triceps but it's not "just" triceps by any means.

[valiantmiller16]

mind blown to pieces that people actually think they know more about how branch should train than the man himself words can not fathom the retardation i have read in this thread.

[RC2008]

I personally think people should be infracted for starting these fukin form flame wars.

[NaturalLoco]

I personally think people should be infracted for starting these fukin form flame wars.

Yep I use to be involved in form talk - but now I realise I was a fool, Branch ftw

[boyoboyo]

triceps get hit either way l0ck0ut 0r n0 l0ck0ut.

heres captain retard to the rescue once more, do you not realise that past a certain point in a pressing movement the focus goes onto the triceps alltogether and barley any delt, which when considering its a delt exersise is NOT what your after.
The fact the tricpes get used either way is completely besides the point, now GTFO.

call story bro, i like how you were made redundant from your horse riding school and now you are beating dead horses with dead horses

I like how your a complete troll, does anybody here not realise this is JRDiamondDelts.

Age: 26
Stats: 6'1", 182 lbs

strong stat gain bro, you were 5,8 and 140 pounds only a couple of months ago.

[AnarkyLost]

I stand by that.

So Evan having a brand new remodeled house for his wife to move in is some how not responsible enough to have a kid?

Go back to the misc its obvious you troll here most of the time b/c 80 percent of your comments have no logic to them.

[JOHN GARGANI]

if we can get away from the nonsense for a minute, what I found most striking in the video way back at the beginning of this thread, is looking at Branch's Triceps and overall arms, while doing these presses.....

when you see how gigantic they look and then, keep in mind, that , amongst his peers, his arms are considered his WEAK POINT! LOL......


gives you a perspective on just how out of the stratosphere these guys are and why they are top world caliber competitors.......

[JohnBrowne]

heres captain retard to the rescue once more, do you not realise that past a certain point in a pressing movement the focus goes onto the triceps alltogether and barley any delt, which when considering its a delt exersise is NOT what your after.
The fact the tricpes get used either way is completely besides the point, now GTFO.

That's an extremely common misconception and to be perfection honest I'm surprised anyone with training experience would actually say that.

I think it's one of those bromyths that some pro said once and everyone now takes it as gospel without actually putting any thought into it.

[JohnBrowne]

So Evan having a brand new remodeled house for his wife to move in is some how not responsible enough to have a kid?

Go back to the misc its obvious you troll here most of the time b/c 80 percent of your comments have no logic to them.

[btintb]

mr.O 2011

[btintb]

Branch is what bodybuilding is all about,thats how you got to train, thats puree dedication !
Those who critisize him should try to train only 1 day like him ,i bet you cant hold on for 10minutes . Morons....you're all gay and train like pussies with your fancy equipment,machines , and holding your mobile-phone in one hand .And the you dare critisize a champ like Branch who is the oppisite of all those lazy bodybuilders who think they're good.
LMAO.

[lancs_hotpot]

I'm amazed by all the people in this thread defending his form. It's complete and total **** form, period. Does it "work for him"? Sure. Has it caused a half dozen serious injuries? Yes.

Dont see your point. Dorian Yates' form was probably as close to perfect form as you can get, he still got injuries, and probably more damaging ones than Branch has had.

Its not like hes gettin inured all over the place either ( at least i dont think). The only injury i remember Branch having is a triceps injury.

Branch is using form that has taken him to number 2 in the word, that is the all you should be concerned about. I mean if you wanna get all bent out of shape about Branch's form why not start a thread and have a go at Ronnie's?

[masthead716]

Branch's videos are awesome. It's what I want to see in a bodybuilding video, a big dude slinging big weights. And his commentary is so much more interesting than others. I've got to the point where I just mute Jay's videos. If I hear him say "basically just trying to get blood in there, get that squeeze or get that contraction" I'm gonna kill myself. No hate on Jay, he's Mr. O, but god he's sucha mook when doing commentary.

[Ironjon84]

[QUOTE=thesouthernson;637984153]

I stand by that.



Dorian didn't do DB shoulder presses in Blood and Guts, you okay bro?





Hears the blood and guts training series. Starts around 1 minute and talks about keeping the tension on the delts.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the blood and guts video that shows Dorian training from the 90s. In this Dorian did smith shoulder presses. Dorian does recommend the dumbbell presses in his newer videos. My guess is that in his video Dorian did the smith presses because of problems with his shoulders.

[thesouthernson]

[QUOTE=Ironjon84;638302983]

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the blood and guts video that shows Dorian training from the 90s. In this Dorian did smith shoulder presses. Dorian does recommend the dumbbell presses in his newer videos. My guess is that in his video Dorian did the smith presses because of problems with his shoulders.

I'm sure he was too; I''m just illustrating my point as to what Dorian said about shoulder presses though.

[boyoboyo]

That's an extremely common misconception and to be perfection honest I'm surprised anyone with training experience would actually say that.

I think it's one of those bromyths that some pro said once and everyone now takes it as gospel without actually putting any thought into it.

a misconception? to who? JohnBrowne the pasty white kid on the IFBB forums who knows all?
Ill take dorian Yates' veiw and many others along with my personal results thanks.

[DPNZ]

The subject of form is becoming as controversial as the arguing about whether someone is natural vs enhanced.


*YAWN*

[JohnBrowne]

a misconception? to who? JohnBrowne the pasty white kid on the IFBB forums who knows all?
Ill take dorian Yates' veiw and many others along with my personal results thanks.

A shoulder press is never tricep dominant

biomechanics > bromechanics

[DPNZ]

A shoulder press is never tricep dominant

biomechanics > bromechanics

Just let it go man... it's killing the damn thread.

[asbrus]

do you not realise that past a certain point in a pressing movement the focus goes onto the triceps and barely any delt .

i never knew a military press was a tricep exercise. Thanks n0w i kn0w but 0nly past a certain p0int 0f c0urse right dr.? HMM N0 W0NDER S0 MANY PR0S D0 THIS F0R THEIR TRICEPS. Br0science at it's best RIGHT HERE.

[razmatazbaz]

did johnbrowne just claim he knew more than dorian on an exercise,


i love the internet

[gabswithabs]

Jesus can't we all just get along, hold hands and get naked... Damn..

[btintb]

put these in your foto-albums :

BOOOM

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[JohnBrowne]

did johnbrowne just claim he knew more than dorian on an exercise,


i love the internet

Actually... yeah. I did, because I do.

Dorian knows more than most pros but he also makes some complete bull**** claims like "bench is a ****ty chest exercise".

[razmatazbaz]

Actually... yeah. I did, because I do.

Dorian knows more than most pros but he also makes some complete bull**** claims like "bench is a ****ty chest exercise".

haha

heard it all

[grant81]

Yeah Dorian is wrong on that one. The lockout obviously involves the triceps but it's not "just" triceps by any means.

its 95% triceps. you happy? I havent seen that many pros that do shoulder presses to lockout for that reason.