How badly would a cheat meal hinder my results?

[chukabi]

Started my lean bulking routine(endo-meso) I need to eat 3.2K calories to maintain my weight, i'd be lucky to go over 2.5K. I do cardio monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, burning an average of about 490-560 calories for each half an hour session I do. Would it be advised to not have a cheat meal or what? And if I Was to how badly would it hinder progress?

[chukabi]

Bump.

[awwwmayeen]

eat whatever you want, as long as youre in a deficit and get the minimum amount of protein/fats. and wait youre bulking? why so much cardio and how do u know how much cals youre burning from one session?

[chukabi]

eat whatever you want, as long as youre in a deficit and get the minimum amount of protein/fats. and wait youre bulking? why so much cardio and how do u know how much cals youre burning from one session?

The machine I do cardio on, some sort of crosswalker thingy, it displays how many calories you burn in the amount of time, I do it for half an hour mon, tues and wednesday, 20 minutes on thursday, and my daily diet is something like this:

Breakfast: 40g serve of sustain(main carb intake for the day :/) with 240-260 grams of skinless chicken breast

2nd Meal: Whey protein shake, 35g's of protein, 3.4 grams of carbs

3rd meal: 2 pieces of multigrain bread(toasted) with 4 eggs(scrambled eggs) and 5 pieces of brocolli

Post workout shake: Same shake as second meal.

5th meal: Either the same as my 3rd meal, or 250-270grams of chicken breast with 5 pieces of brocolli.

[chukabi]

The machine I do cardio on, some sort of crosswalker thingy, it displays how many calories you burn in the amount of time, I do it for half an hour mon, tues and wednesday, 20 minutes on thursday, and my daily diet is something like this:

Breakfast: 40g serve of sustain(main carb intake for the day :/) with 240-260 grams of skinless chicken breast

2nd Meal: Whey protein shake, 35g's of protein, 3.4 grams of carbs

3rd meal: 2 pieces of multigrain bread(toasted) with 4 eggs(scrambled eggs) and 5 pieces of brocolli

Post workout shake: Same shake as second meal.

5th meal: Either the same as my 3rd meal, or 250-270grams of chicken breast with 5 pieces of brocolli.

Bump :/

[awwwmayeen]

dont understand your goals, you said you wanted to "lean bulk" with your maint @ 3200 but youre not gonna go over 2500. to bulk u need to be in a cal surplus.

[chukabi]

dont understand your goals, you said you wanted to "lean bulk" with your maint @ 3200 but youre not gonna go over 2500. to bulk u need to be in a cal surplus.

Hmm, ill private message you.

[chukabi]

Hmm, ill private message you.

And I guess my goal is to get bigger, whilst cutting bodyfat.

[JourneymanDave]

Started my lean bulking routine(endo-meso) I need to eat 3.2K calories to maintain my weight, i'd be lucky to go over 2.5K. I do cardio monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, burning an average of about 490-560 calories for each half an hour session I do. Would it be advised to not have a cheat meal or what? And if I Was to how badly would it hinder progress?

3200 cals sounds about right for your bodyweight for maintenance, assuming an active routine in the gym. When you say "lucky to go over 2500 cals", is that what you're currently taking in? If so, you're not going to bulk at all. In fact, given the net -700 daily cals, you'd be hard-pressed to maintain existing lean mass.

That, and considering your 4x weekly carido sessions, you appear to be on a cut, not a bulk. Nothing wrong with that, just saying...

If you're looking for a lean bulk, my advice would be to take in maintenance cals +250 daily, continuing plenty of cardio.

As far as the cheat meal, just make sure you're counting it in your cals and macros, and it won't matter much. It might even be advisable to do that, maybe weekly, in order to stem cravings and keep your metabolism on a boil. Just don't go crazy and skew your cals out of the average range you're targeting.

[adamrochester]

this ^ make sure you fit it into your macros cals

what is your goal though to ? if your not competing i dont see why you would care about cheat meal or not ?

if you were looking to have a good physiquei wouldnt be going having whole large pizza stuffing your face have something to satisfy you dont go over board

[chukabi]

3200 cals sounds about right for your bodyweight for maintenance, assuming an active routine in the gym. When you say "lucky to go over 2500 cals", is that what you're currently taking in? If so, you're not going to bulk at all. In fact, given the net -700 daily cals, you'd be hard-pressed to maintain existing lean mass.

That, and considering your 4x weekly carido sessions, you appear to be on a cut, not a bulk. Nothing wrong with that, just saying...

If you're looking for a lean bulk, my advice would be to take in maintenance cals +250 daily, continuing plenty of cardio.

As far as the cheat meal, just make sure you're counting it in your cals and macros, and it won't matter much. It might even be advisable to do that, maybe weekly, in order to stem cravings and keep your metabolism on a boil. Just don't go crazy and skew your cals out of the average range you're targeting.

I like this, and I have the self-discipline(stubbornness more like it) to go 8-10 weeks without a cheat meal, if I know for a fact that doing so will give me better results.. my biggest curiosity was IF I did have no cheat meals, would it plateau me in terms of losing fat?

[adamrochester]

yes this is why refeeds/ high carb days are needed i suggest having 2 refeeds a day refeeds are higher carb days drop your fat intake buy 5-10 grams and drop you protein down to your body weight in pounds

[chukabi]

yes this is why refeeds/ high carb days are needed i suggest having 2 refeeds a day refeeds are higher carb days drop your fat intake buy 5-10 grams and drop you protein down to your body weight in pounds

Can you simplify for me a bit please, I didn't get that.