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    Originally Posted by sglgirl View Post
    Thank you.

    I hope to hit at least 150lbs by the end of August with proper form....that is my goal!
    ~~That was a great vid.. and a good example for me re staying upright!

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    Despite Dave teaching the wide stance in this, every other detail here can really help allmost anyone' squat.

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    Originally Posted by discdoggie View Post
    My goal is 225.
    Wow. My heaviest has been 275lb about 2 years ago, but that was only partial, not deep like these ones I am trying.


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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    Despite Dave teaching the wide stance in this, every other detail here can really help allmost anyone' squat.

    http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...lution_phase_5
    Dave teaches for geared lifters and the form and technique vary more for raw lifter.
    Like sitting back, you cannot sit back as much as he says doing raw squats.
    Wide stance is not good for raw lifting.
    Box squats are not good for raw squatting , after you have learned how to squat. you need to train going full depth with raw squats for more power out of the hole.
    Of course proper shoes/sneakers are the number one thing people do not get.

    So you have to understand where some people have been like Dave Tate, he was a geared lifter so his teachings is about geared lifts, he never did train for a raw meet. Most poeple here I think all except me only train raw no gear only belt and knee wraps for squats which is fine but reading Dave's info and trying to apply it to raw squats just won't work out to be totally great.
    One last thing I disagree with Dave is Technique. He seems to imply that it is something you got to have and I disagree. You NEED form and every compound lift has it and will dictate that your form has to be a certain way. It is technique that develops after your form is correct. Technique is What you develop to your own genetics. For example on the squat some may like high bar others low bar, some like looking up others like lokking just above eye level, hand gripping the bar close or wide, or going down into the hole fast or slow (but most coaches will tell you to go fast). But all these things are technique that you devolop after the form is correct and the better the form the technique will then generate more results. If your form is crap then your technique will do nothing or make things worse.
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    my squat

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    Originally Posted by sblackhorse76 View Post
    295 12 times woooooot
    This is a competition thread, not a "i can squat this much this many times" e-stat thread.

    1) You need to state that you're in the comp, if that is your intention.

    2) Vid is required for an official entry.

    3) This is a single rep max comp, not a rep comp.
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    We're going to have agree to disagree on this Ski. I power lifted raw for 20 years and Dave's advice of pushing with the oustide of your feet, driving up through your chest, etc are the staples of a good squat period. Yes a wide stance and sitting very far back are for geared squating. I don't understand your premise about box squating not being applicable to raw squating at all.
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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    We're going to have agree to disagree on this Ski. I power lifted raw for 20 years and Dave's advice of pushing with the oustide of your feet, driving up through your chest, etc are the staples of a good squat period. Yes a wide stance and sitting very far back are for geared squating. I don't understand your premise about box squating not being applicable to raw squating at all.
    I've done both geared and raw and have an American record of 625lbs raw. I have done 770lbs in gear, these are meet lifts I state.
    When training for my raw record I did a special 5x5 routine and did only full squats. but after the meet I tried doing something different, raw bax squats. I did 505lbs for 5 reps on the box at parallel, easy, but when I tried to do full range squats raw I was weaker. And may people (Matt Gary is one ) thing box squats do nothing for raw lifting, I tend to agree.
    Box squats are to LEARN how to squat but once that is obtained you need to do full squats for strength in raw. In gear that is different.
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    Originally Posted by skiboy1955 View Post
    I've done both geared and raw and have an American record of 625lbs raw. I have done 770lbs in gear, these are meet lifts I state.
    When training for my raw record I did a special 5x5 routine and did only full squats. but after the meet I tried doing something different, raw bax squats. I did 505lbs for 5 reps on the box at parallel, easy, but when I tried to do full range squats raw I was weaker. And may people (Matt Gary is one ) thing box squats do nothing for raw lifting, I tend to agree.
    Box squats are to LEARN how to squat but once that is obtained you need to do full squats for strength in raw. In gear that is different.
    Exactly. Again, it's a very individual thing, there is no one way cure all for any lift, it depends on the lifter and where he needs assistance to get the most out of the lift.
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    330 bw 165. my first ever 2x bw squat. (trying to figure out where else i can post this.)

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    330 bw 165. my first ever 2x bw squat. (trying to figure out where else i can post this.)

    Good job man!

    Post it in the PR thread as well.
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    Box squating eliminates the stretch reflex and for those who are into the functional fad they would be remise not to include this aspect of training. You don't even need a box, pausing at the bottom or doing pin squats do pretty much the same thing. I squat with and w/o the box. I also vary the depth, bar postion, rep and set schemes, etc.
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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    Box squating eliminates the stretch reflex and for those who are into the functional fad they would be remise not to include this aspect of training. You don't even need a box, pausing at the bottom or doing pin squats do pretty much the same thing. I squat with and w/o the box. I also vary the depth, bar postion, rep and set schemes, etc.
    True, it does. But do you think a beginner who is trying to work on his form is concerned about stretch reflex? no, not at that point.

    If A is not done correctly then it's safe to say that B will be in the trash.
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    I was just making an example of an application of box squats, not saying that new squaters need to worry about the strtech reflex. Nowhere in my post did I assert that but I don't disagree with someone who takes it into account either. Way back in HS football I learned to box squat with the Bigger Faster Stronger program just like thousands of other kids.
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    Is there a second comp going until the end of the year like dead lift?

    If so, I'm in

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    Is there a second comp going until the end of the year like dead lift?

    If so, I'm in

    Best squat so far 661 @ 350ish last May.
    1) Yes.

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    just to keep thing moving along (that and the fact that i'm proud of myself, hehe)...

    305 x 5. fwiw, i'm learning that the only real way to get comfortable under a heavy bar is to spend some time under a heavy bar.

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    just to keep thing moving along (that and the fact that i'm proud of myself, hehe)...

    305 x 5. fwiw, i'm learning that the only real way to get comfortable under a heavy bar is to spend some time under a heavy bar.

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    Originally Posted by boathead View Post
    real nice. i wish i had your form.
    Practice by using a barbell, light weight nothing heavy, raise it high above your head and hold it there, then squat. If you are leaning forward you will lose your balance and if the barbell moves to your back then you will feel it in your shoulders.
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    345 at bw 165.

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    345 at bw 165.

    That looked really good man! You're a squatting machine.
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    thanks, getsum. all i want to do is squat lately, hehe. every other lift is being neglected. 405 by years end, that's my goal now!
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    355 squat bw 165...end of the newbie gains for me i think.

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    355 squat bw 165...end of the newbie gains for me i think.
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    thanks doggie. with bando and steve gone, i think i'm the only competitor at my weight. not sure what i should be doing now. srs. hahaha
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    thanks doggie. with bando and steve gone, i think i'm the only competitor at my weight. not sure what i should be doing now. srs. hahaha
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    i will.

    it feels odd being the only horse in the race though....sort of what's the point?

    anyway, 405 by end of the year!
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    Originally Posted by boathead View Post
    355 squat bw 165...end of the newbie gains for me i think.

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    Originally Posted by boathead View Post
    i will.

    it feels odd being the only horse in the race though....sort of what's the point?

    anyway, 405 by end of the year!
    Oh, *STEVE* is still in. He's off ban pretty soon, and he said himself even if he doesn't return to the forums as a contributing member, he is most definitely posting vids. And you know *STEVE*, he's already claiming victory in all 3 comps.
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