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    str8 Mormon woman married to gay man speaks out.

    This woman is really one of my hero's. She was married to a gay man in the 1970's, he latter contracts HIV and dies. She was a renouned Mormon poet and author and bravely spoke out by writting a book telling her story back in 1985. At the time I was so firmly in the closet I didn't even dare look at it.

    In this clip in the first 4 minutes she exsplains the wonder of homosexuals and why we have no business trying to change them. Sorry I don't know how to embed. It is well worth watching at least the first 5 min.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/mormonst...17/GPMtQZ33z9Y
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    i forgot what a mormon is, aware me?
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    so did she marry him knowing he was gay? or did she marry him, he came outta the closet, and they just remained close?

    cool vid though no the less...not something i would necassarily ever watch so thanks for bringing it to my attention OP. its always good to listen to people speak that think nothing like you, which was my case wit this vid.
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    She didn't know he was gay. He didn't tell her till after they had kids, if I remember correctly. Need to reread her book.
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    wait.... wut?


    Just answer clearly, are you a homosexual?
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    Originally Posted by LukeyB View Post
    i forgot what a mormon is, aware me?
    Mormon is the nickname for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. A conservative religion that believes that the ancient church was taken from the earth due to apostasy. Believes that God restored it to the earth thru a prophet Joesph Smith and they believe they are Gods church restored to earth. They believe in modern day prophets and apostles.
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    Originally Posted by Johnny_D_09 View Post
    so did she marry him knowing he was gay? or did she marry him, he came outta the closet, and they just remained close?

    cool vid though no the less...not something i would necassarily ever watch so thanks for bringing it to my attention OP. its always good to listen to people speak that think nothing like you, which was my case wit this vid.
    She did marry him knowing he was gay, at the time she believed what the church told both of them that he could be cured. They thought marriage would do it. They were divorced after 6 years or so. He moved to San Francisco in 1982 contracted hiv and died in her home in 1984.

    She has been an activist ever since and retains her membership in the church. She is a very brave women.
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    Originally Posted by TJMachine View Post
    She didn't know he was gay. He didn't tell her till after they had kids, if I remember correctly. Need to reread her book.
    No he told her before they were married. However at the time the LDS church did advise homosexuals to NOT tell their future spouse. That was the case with me.
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    Originally Posted by supacrazymonkey View Post
    wait.... wut?


    Just answer clearly, are you a homosexual?
    Yes I am a homosexual.
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    Yes I am a homosexual.
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    Originally Posted by Brasmonky View Post
    First time that OP is actually a *******... no hate
    lol
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    lol
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    Originally Posted by mulletman444 View Post
    op is a *******
    And you have a mullet and are red, ummmmmmm sucks to be you.
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    Originally Posted by Harlequinn View Post
    ops got balls respect!!!!!
    Welcome back to the world of green lol.
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    Originally Posted by mntbikedude View Post
    And you have a mullet and are red, ummmmmmm sucks to be you.
    hmm, i find it quite curious that you waited over an hour to respond despite it having been the very first post in the thread. might you give us some insight into what brought this strange occurence about?
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    Originally Posted by mulletman444 View Post
    hmm, i find it quite curious that you waited over an hour to respond despite it having been the very first post in the thread. might you give us some insight into what brought this strange occurence about?
    Of course that is part of teh ghey agenda. But the real reason is that I usualy don't respond to trolls or reds. But I'm bored waiting for a flight.
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    Originally Posted by mntbikedude View Post
    Yes I am a homosexual.
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    Originally Posted by mntbikedude View Post
    Of course that is part of teh ghey agenda. But the real reason is that I usualy don't respond to trolls or reds. But I'm bored waiting for a flight.
    in any case, you are indeed a *******. so my point still stands
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    Originally Posted by mulletman444 View Post
    in any case, you are indeed a *******. so my point still stands
    But seriously how is that mullet workin for you?
    You can, and need to find a ground that you know you are suppose to stand on.. hence, stand your ground, this is the place where you know everything is as it should be for you. If you stand in a place where you know in your heart things are wrong, most things around you will never be right.

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    Originally Posted by supacrazymonkey View Post
    wait.... wut?


    Just answer clearly, are you a homosexual?
    Are you gay by concious choice or was it ingrained in u from your preadolescent beginning?
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    Aren't you the guy who got divorced and is now dating another woman? So confused right now.
    You deserve what you settle for.

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    Originally Posted by Hemispheres79 View Post
    Are you gay by concious choice or was it ingrained in u from your preadolescent beginning?
    Definately not a choice, I don't remember ever having any attraction to women. I tried my best, at 14 I bought a penthouse and hoped that would work. It didn't, tried dating women, therapy marriage. At the end of the day I was still gay. It took me a lifetime to appreciate who I am and finally be happy that I am who I am.
    You can, and need to find a ground that you know you are suppose to stand on.. hence, stand your ground, this is the place where you know everything is as it should be for you. If you stand in a place where you know in your heart things are wrong, most things around you will never be right.

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    Originally Posted by jon555 View Post
    Aren't you the guy who got divorced and is now dating another woman? So confused right now.
    Naw I'm actually still married 28 years next month. If I did get divorced I would definately never date another women.
    You can, and need to find a ground that you know you are suppose to stand on.. hence, stand your ground, this is the place where you know everything is as it should be for you. If you stand in a place where you know in your heart things are wrong, most things around you will never be right.

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    Originally Posted by mntbikedude View Post
    Yes I am a homosexual.
    Props for having the balls to post this type of thread on the misc, glad to see there hasn't been too much backlash yet. Haven't seen this, still pretty interesting stuff. Repped.
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    Originally Posted by mntbikedude View Post
    This woman is really one of my hero's. She was married to a gay man in the 1970's, he latter contracts HIV and dies. She was a renouned Mormon poet and author and bravely spoke out by writting a book telling her story back in 1985. At the time I was so firmly in the closet I didn't even dare look at it.

    In this clip in the first 4 minutes she exsplains the wonder of homosexuals and why we have no business trying to change them. Sorry I don't know how to embed. It is well worth watching at least the first 5 min.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/mormonst...17/GPMtQZ33z9Y
    Is homosexual attraction more physical or mental.

    I know a few gay people and they seem to be brighter emotionally than alot of people but i think it may be a front i dont think they are any different that any of us other than the obvious
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