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    Dennis Wolf: So Over-Hyped

    I was one of Dennis' biggest fans after the 2007 Mr. Olympia. In fact, I was 100% sure that he would take the Sandow from Jay in 08. But as we all know, that didn't happen. Instead 08 was the starting point for Wolf's decline. And IMO, he has not fully come back from despite his 5th at last year's Olympia.

    And it absolutely amazes me that people are still saying he deserved 3rd, 2nd or even the win at the Flex Pro. Clearly I am not seeing what you guys are seeing. He was the same weight as he was at the Olympia with worse conditioning and worse colour.

    IMO, Wolf was lucky to get 4th.















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    There are obvious reasons to like Wolf. He's a great bodybuilder. He should have been top 3 from the pics. Calves are, well, not good at all. He has a long torso which can be distracting in some poses but he is a monster. BDB pose is unreal. I was impressed w/ his lat spread from the pics. All other poses he looked great. Hammies need more meat (from side poses it's obvious). All in all I thought he'd be in the top three spot but again, this is judging from the pics.
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    I think he's focusing more on the arnold, that's why his conditioning wasn't so good IMO
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    He's made almost no improvements from that awesome showing in 07. It's a shame because he has such a great structure. I mean, I'm sure he's eating and training at 100% he probably has just reached very close to his genetic potential.
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    I wouldn't say "lucky to get 4th". He was ahead of Pakulski in terms of overall physique and I had Wolf winning the FDB over anyone. There's no way in hell he should have won. No question. I think 4th is exactly where he deserved to be, though.
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    needs more definition in his legs, but otherwise he looks pretty good IMO
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    Well at least his quads were freakin awesome also his back owned everyone. IMO he wasn't lucky to get 4th he should have gotten 3rd without a doubt.
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    more concerned about the arnold imo. i think thats where we will see his true physique

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    Originally Posted by Joshua91 View Post
    more concerned about the arnold imo. i think thats where we will see his true physique

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    This is why Dexter was a little soft too. Much better to peak for Arnold, much bigger show.
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    Pac man was a great bodybuilder, but your insane if you don't see something funky in his delts.

    I reasonably had Wolf in second or third, and could have seen him winning.

    Shame on you Davis for not posting comparison pictures, how are single pictures going to prove your point?
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    Originally Posted by BlackNumero View Post
    Shame on you Davis for not posting comparison pictures, how are single pictures going to prove your point?
    this. you can nitpick anyone when theyre alone, look at the comparisons
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    Don't know if he's overhyped, but he was definitely off. Guy seems to take one step forwards and then two steps back. I could definitely see how some think that he should have placed higher. He's a big giant dude and he's a major star in the sport and in a subjective sport those things matter. He didn't have a good showing this time out, but his fans are gonna give him some extra "what if" points to explain why he should have done better. I think we all do that when it comes to our favorite athletes.

    **better color and a better haircut could have helped him out some as well. Didnt seem to have enough oil or color on.
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    he does look good..he just need to adjust his back lat spread positioning so that the lower lats pop out.
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    Originally Posted by bigBOSSguy View Post
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    he does look good..he just need to adjust his back lat spread positioning so that the lower lats pop out.
    His lower lats don't seem like they attach low enough to come out much more than they do, but when you actually see it, his higher insertion make his waist look smaller and his rear double bicep and lat spread poses look even more cartoonish and better in my opinion.
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    hes a mass monster that is all

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    DEnnis looked good, and was bigger than at the Mr.O.

    Upper-Back, quads, hams, all improved.


    Better than Pakulski with his oil shoulder and calves....
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    Wolf made back and leg improvements since the O. His Quads looked retarded and he won all the comparisons from the back. His color during the prejudging was really bad. How can you do that at that level?

    Just that his conditioning was off... but he's not on the decline, he got bigger!

    I think he should have got 3rd for not being on, but you can make an argument for 4th, 2nd or even 1st. I'm not sure Evan should have won though, he still has a glaring weakness in his chest, although he made great improvements. Great showing for Fouad, guy was on.












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    Originally Posted by BlackNumero View Post
    Pac man was a great bodybuilder, but your insane if you don't see something funky in his delts.

    I reasonably had Wolf in second or third, and could have seen him winning.

    Shame on you Davis for not posting comparison pictures, how are single pictures going to prove your point?
    Sorry, was in a rush. I was going to throw up some comparisons as well but had to get to work.

    Not sure how people can say 3rd or better when he can't even win in this line-up.

    I'll admit, Wolf's FDB is quite good here and beats Fouad and Ben.



    Ben kills the FLS! No competition whatsoever. Vastly thicker in the lower body than anyone, equal or slightly better conditioning than Wolf with a slightly thicker upper body, most notably in the chest and delts. And again, I'll admit, Wolf beats Fouad here. FLS is probably Fouad's weakest pose, IMO.



    Both Ben and Fouad trump Wolf here. Wolf may have the biggest legs, but they lack the separation of Fouad and Ben, and again, his terrible color is really hurting him too. Both beat him on the upper body. Wolf is not presenting his chest very well at all and his delts and arms lack any kind of detail/separation whatsoever. Not even close IMO.



    IMO, Fouad was the most dominant from the back in the entire competition. Wolf may have a very well developed upper back, but Fouad matched him and had a superb mid/lower back to go with it. Throw in peeled glutes and hams and Fouad wins, no doubt. Pak lost to Wolf in the RDB.



    Just like the FLS, it's no competition. Ben may lack a good RDB, but his spreads are phenomenal. Thickest man waist down with the most developed, lowest inserting, widest back to match. In this case, I would have Fouad over Dennis. Wolf just looks so underdeveloped in his RLS lately and he is getting crushed by Fouad's conditioning and colour.



    Once again, I think Wolf's colour and conditioning is really hurting him here. If he had nailed it, and came in darker, it may have been a different story. But he didn't. He has the biggest legs from the side, but they lack detail. His core is not as tight as Fouad or Ben's, and his upper body lacks the detail/separation of them as well.



    Well, I am not going to beat around the bush with this... I hate Wolf's abs/thigh. Other than his quads, I honestly think he looks skinny. His long tibia looks terrible with no calves, and IMO, is being beat by every single person in this line-up.



    Supposedly Wolf's best pose and I think he is still getting beat. I know I sound like a broken record here, but Fouad's conditioning and colour was so good that he had an advantage on Wolf in every pose, including this one. Fouad's aesthetics here are crazy. Great traps, delts, arms, core and legs. And Ben... he is f*cking massive here! Thick from head-to-toe with equal conditioning as Wolf but with better colour.




    So in summary, I think Wolf won the FDB, beat Fouad in the FLS and Ben in the RDB. Everything else, they beat him.

    It was not close IMO, and like I said, Wolf was lucky to get 4th. Ben should have beat him.

    Overall, I am still pretty happy with the judging. I am not freaking out on them, I just don't get what it is about Dennis that they like so much.
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    Honestly though out of those 3 I saw it like this:

    FDB: Wolf - Fouad - Ben
    FLS: Wolf - Ben - Fouad
    SC: Fouad - Ben - Wolf
    BDB: Fouad - Wolf - Ben
    RLS: Fouad - Ben - Wolf
    ST: Fouad - Wolf - Ben
    AT: Fouad - Wolf - Ben
    MM: Ben - Wolf - Fouad

    I think I agree with the order the judges have placed them in. I was extremely impressed with Fouad, the improvements he's made are astounding. Wolf wont be messing around when it comes to the Arnold though, I think he's waiting to peak then.
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    wolf...

    I am a bit of a fan of wolf's structure with a few exceptions. i think there are a few spots that hold him back with the judges. I like the longer torso, but his high lat insertions that contribute to the X frame also hold him back when doing some of the lat poses.

    ....I used to love his MM until davis had to point out the damn calves....not it bugs the hell out of me...shucks.

    Legs are huge, with a little more separation and bigger calves, and more work on the color I think that makes all the difference in the world.
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    Ben White looks like a child amongst men in this line-up. I noticed it most in the RDB. I just have to laugh...as much as that guy talks. Maybe he should stop running his trap and start trying to add some size to his upper body.

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    This is why Dexter was a little soft too. Much better to peak for Arnold, much bigger show.
    Yep, I think that's a big part of why he wasn't super disappointed when Evan won. He knows he's aiming for the AC.
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    Looked at Nationality, looked at what was written below username. Didn't read
    Lmfao... well, you are right. My posts in this thread are probably not the most unbiased I have ever made, lol.
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    Yep, I think that's a big part of why he wasn't super disappointed when Evan won. He knows he's aiming for the AC.
    Dennis is not the only one. Look at Dexter.
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    I think Wolf didn't look bad at all!

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    Honestly Davis, Wolf should have won the Olympia in 08. Just look at the pictures. He was bigger than everyone else and his conditioning was his best ever. The "flat" talk is just fu cking stupid.
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    Originally Posted by StopVinceYoung View Post
    Honestly Davis, Wolf should have won the Olympia in 08. Just look at the pictures. He was bigger than everyone else and his conditioning was his best ever. The "flat" talk is just fu cking stupid.
    I would agree if Dexter and Phil hadn't been there... too bad they were...

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