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    Originally Posted by FullROM View Post
    Will be intresting to see what Dex has to say about the results if he gives an interview.

    Also Evans flaws will show up so much when he stands next to Heath who is nt missing a muscle anywhere.
    He might say one thing but you can bet he'll be thinking another. I agree with that on Heath, I think that's what happened when he stood next to Dexter, but there's Victor and Branch at the Arnold who he shouldn't cause problems for. I say shouldn't and not wont because who knows what the judges will see. If he deserves it then fair enough but I can't see him beating either of them if they're on without them being robbed.
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    Every c0mmentat0r including jaycutler,shawn,and dave palumb0 had evan 1st and every0ne in the civic audit0rium. Yet there are pe0ple at h0me still claiming evan l0st. Mindbl0wing.
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    Who's to say their opinion is right and someone else's is wrong? I just fail to see the poses Evan beats Dexter in.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    who's to say their opinion is right and someone else's is wrong? I just fail to see the poses evan beats dexter in.
    0kay every0ne wh0 was in the c0ntest including judges and members th0usands in attendance are all wr0ng and y0u're right? Y0ur 0pini0n means n0thing. Y0U'RE AN AN0MALY.
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    Evan won because he had the least flaws. His FDB might not be the best, but apart from that he was spot on and had the best conditioning. No rocket science here. And why would anyone compare him with Heath? Heath is like the next freak of bb and will probably be mr.o this year, Evan is far from that. Just take it for what it was.

    And yes you can't judge by pics especially when comparison pics are so blurry and small they don't even show definition.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    Absolute disgrace, Evan should never have won that show let alone place 2nd in my opinion. First of all Dexter smoked him in just about every pose, and all of his front shots besides most muscular aren't appealing at all. I genuinely can't believe Evan won that show.
    I can't believe you said that lol.. I thought his front lat spread was unbelievable.. nearly as good as Wolfs..
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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    Every c0mmentat0r including jaycutler,shawn,and dave palumb0 had evan 1st and every0ne in the civic audit0rium. Yet there are pe0ple at h0me still claiming evan l0st. Mindbl0wing.
    Remember Jay is being paid by the bodybuildings bosses who have deep pockets. He could hardley say Evans chest lacks thickness and his front double BI needs work. Jay said what he had to say.
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    Originally Posted by FullROM View Post
    Remember Jay is being paid by the bodybuildings bosses who have deep pockets. He could hardley say Evans chest lacks thickness and his front double BI needs work. Jay said what he had to say.
    who did you have winning the show? or top 3?
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    Originally Posted by NaturalLoco View Post
    who did you have winning the show? or top 3?
    Its hard to pick it, I would have given Dex 1st, Wolf 2nd, Evan/Fouad 3rd - 4th (Ben even maybe 3rd instead of Evan).

    I just think Evans still not developed enough in all poses to win (he had the best conditioning granted), Evan looks great in almost all poses apart from front double BI which is a huge pose.
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    Originally Posted by FullROM View Post
    Its hard to pick it, I would have given Dex 1st, Wolf 2nd, Evan/Fouad 3rd - 4th (Ben even maybe 3rd instead of Evan).

    I just think Evans still not developed enough in all poses to win (he had the best conditioning granted), Evan looks great in almost all poses apart from front double BI which is a huge pose.
    3rd/4th is very steep.. i fail to see how ben or wolf would even place ahead of Evan.. I can see a small case for Dexter, but to me Evan was outright winner
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    the only 2 guys that have a chance against Evan are big Vic and Phil. Cutler is soon to be Evan's gym bag holder.
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    Woah!just saw the results and palumbo's wrapup.i thought wolf would place in the top three.He was lacking the conditioning but his size is on another level.
    Evan overall looked really good but he has to improve a lot of things,still young though!

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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    0kay every0ne wh0 was in the c0ntest including judges and members th0usands in attendance are all wr0ng and y0u're right? Y0ur 0pini0n means n0thing. Y0U'RE AN AN0MALY.
    Everyone wanted to see Evan win for an upset. I never said I was right, but who's to same I'm wrong? It's called an opinion you idiot, and mine is that Dexter should have won it.

    Originally Posted by NaturalLoco View Post
    I can't believe you said that lol.. I thought his front lat spread was unbelievable.. nearly as good as Wolfs..
    After seeing the bigger better pictures I've changed my mind on that pose admittedly. I still stand by Dexter winning though.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    Everyone wanted to see Evan win for an upset. I never said I was right, but who's to same I'm wrong? It's called an opinion you idiot, and mine is that Dexter should have won it.



    After seeing the bigger better pictures I've changed my mind on that pose admittedly. I still stand by Dexter winning though.
    Do you think your opinion could change again if you had the opportunity to see it in even higher resolution in person?
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    Originally Posted by Penile_Dementia View Post
    Do you think your opinion could change again if you had the opportunity to see it in even higher resolution in person?
    I couldn't say no until I've seen it but I'm going off everything I've seen obviously. I just think Dexter is a better bodybuilder than Evan, he might be slightly smaller and slightly less conditioned but I think he looked better in the majority of poses.
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    when you look at close high quality pictures, evans conditioning > everyones
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    Eh, it has to be said, Evan's conditioning is no joke at all. But in bodyparts, I don't agree that he won.. from the back, side chest he loses to Dex imo Dex is wider and thicker in the back. But his conditioning just looks insane. I def think the judging was fair.
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    I posted the comparison pictures yesterday after prejudging, and there were several photos I had either Wolf or Dexter beating Evan in. There was only one or two where I had Evan as the winner (between Wolf, Fouad, Dexter, and Evan). Perhaps showtime/pictures tell a different story, but I've always found that hard to believe. I think only his conditioning could be illuminated more clearly IRL then in pictures, and best conditioning should not hands down win a show. Shredded glutes/hammies are favored over structure/flow (It might be the IFBB's way of attempting to make the judging more objective). I'm sorry but I am not impressed at all with Evan's FDB. Even some of his backshots failed to impress me compared to Wolf or Dexter (I had Wolf winning the BDB and Dexter winning the RLS). His only pose where I said "wow Evan's the clear winner" is either his SC or his MM (but it was hard to truly compare MMs since he was hitting it differently from Wolf).

    Fouad looked great, but I did not have him beating Wolf. Again, I think Fouad's back conditioning (glutes/hams) allowed him to beat Wolf. Personally, I think Evan won because he had better conditioning, alot of hype, and is the perfect "sales" BBder.
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    Evan got Dex with his conditioning

    I was at show seated center stage midsection. Even from where I was sitting, you could see that from the from Dex barely had Evan... But when they turned around, it was a whole different story. Dex was holding too much water from lower back down. Couldn't see any striations in his glutes and hams were watery. Evan on the other hand was feathered from traps to calves. I think Dex may in trying to peak for Arnold, missed his mark here.

    Ben on the other hand got screwed... he was by far the biggest and on of the most tuned when he first touched the stage. Unfortunately for him, he was the first in the line so kinda got lost. And since he didn't make 1st callout, he ended up smoothing out way faster than the rest. should have placed 3/4.

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    From far away pictures you can't really tell how conditioned they are. Everyone is saying that Evan won because of his conditioning, yet how can you properly judge conditioning based on pictures with no detail at all?

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    evan won the show hands down....conditioning was the best and nothing besides his FDB looked bad..

    the real problem here is 2nd 3rd and 4th
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    Prediction, this is the last show Evan will win. Great conditioning sure, but gut is gettin real bad and he doesn't have good muscle shape or structure to support it. Guys like Ronnie could get away with it because of the crazy vtaper. I smell burnout imho.
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    Originally Posted by Psyckle View Post
    Prediction, this is the last show Evan will win. Great conditioning sure, but gut is gettin real bad and he doesn't have good muscle shape or structure to support it. Guys like Ronnie could get away with it because of the crazy vtaper. I smell burnout imho.
    Problem gut officer? Don't see no visible gut on Evan or anything indicating him having one, sorry. Except if you can somehow predict bodybuilders growing a gut by blurry low res pics in wich case i salute you.

    And i agree with the above, i think Fouad should have placed 2nd and Dex 3rd. Hell, Fouad was practically robbed.
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    Originally Posted by Psyckle View Post
    Prediction, this is the last show Evan will win. Great conditioning sure, but gut is gettin real bad and he doesn't have good muscle shape or structure to support it. Guys like Ronnie could get away with it because of the crazy vtaper. I smell burnout imho.
    Ah, yes, I agree completely. It is very obvious in the picture you provided.
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    Originally Posted by JanesLastResort View Post
    Problem gut officer? Don't see no visible gut on Evan or anything indicating him having one, sorry. Except if you can somehow predict bodybuilders growing a gut by blurry low res pics in wich case i salute you.

    And i agree with the above, i think Fouad should have placed 2nd and Dex 3rd. Hell, Fouad was practically robbed.
    I admit pretty much all the pros have significant distension, but if you have good vtaper and structure it isn't nearly as noticible. I mean cmon, lets be real here, Evans abs/midsection look like **** compared to many others and its not gonna get any better considering that's about as good as his conditioning will get.
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    Evans abs/midsection is fine its just a lil wider than most other pros. From the pics it looks like he was hitting the ab and thigh slightly differently to dex etc. they would have their arms more to the sides whereas his were more straight above his head. I would have thought this makes his lats look smaller.

    But ronnie had a crap midsection when he got massive and cutler always get stick for it, i dont think evans is any worse than their midsection just needs more lats!
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    Originally Posted by mearsa30 View Post
    Evans abs/midsection is fine its just a lil wider than most other pros. From the pics it looks like he was hitting the ab and thigh slightly differently to dex etc. they would have their arms more to the sides whereas his were more straight above his head. I would have thought this makes his lats look smaller.

    But ronnie had a crap midsection when he got massive and cutler always get stick for it, i dont think evans is any worse than their midsection just needs more lats!
    Agreed. There's not much he can do about his midsection. Needs to bring up his lats big time though.
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    It was pretty easy to see that Evan had the show won in the morning and at night. Dexter was showing very little detail in his hams. Evan had a good thirty pounds of muscle over Dex. Dexter looked tiny next to him. The back lat was not a strong pose for Evan, but he totally crushed Dexter in the back double bicep. It wasn't even close. Evan has flaws, but he was easily better than Dexter last night.

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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    S0 all the viewers and the judges wh0 are watching the c0ntest had evan winning while the keyb0ard warri0rs have their 0wn 0pini0n 0nce again. Yah that's ab0ut right. It always happens after every c0ntest.
    well, we agree on something for once!!

    Evan had a balanced physique with size that was the same or better than everyone on stage, with the best conditioning. thus he won


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    Remember Jay is being paid by the bodybuildings bosses who have deep pockets. He could hardley say Evans chest lacks thickness and his front double BI needs work. Jay said what he had to say.
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