Mind - blown...how do you guys give away computers, leave them open?

[Ace Thedics]

Saying this while I'm nearing the end of a Computer Forensics certification...

No matter what you format/delete...it's there.

If you were into CP or some odd **** 10 years ago and reformed yourself...it's there.

[orph234]

magnets.

[Ace Thedics]

magnets.

I guarantee that noone on the misc has magnets powerful enough to alter hd data

[orph234]

I guarantee that noone on the misc has magnets powerful enough to alter hd data

the "shred" command. and magnets. at the same time.

[Ace Thedics]

the "shred" command. and magnets. at the same time.

jakes on you

[SpiderBro]

yeah, cause the person I give it to is gonna be doing some deep inspections on my dataz

[mikestarr]

I give away my computer only after lighting it on fire

[Joshua91]

well ive never looked at cp, so im in the clear.

jakes on you fukin ****

[Ace Thedics]

yeah, cause the person I give it to is gonna be doing some deep inspections on my dataz

well ive never looked at cp, so im in the clear.

jakes on you fukin ****

(no****)

[bottlez]

look at cp
when fbi is on to you, give it away
name = cleared

[trygve]

Secure Erase: http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml

(Though mainly I've used it for "resetting" SSDs.)

[Veldy]

In for more infoz on your certification, sounds kinda cool.
Didnotknow/10

[Lifterman]

Saying this while I'm nearing the end of a Computer Forensics certification...

No matter what you format/delete...it's there.

If you were into CP or some odd **** 10 years ago and reformed yourself...it's there.

What do you mean it's always there? That makes no sense. What about rewriting over the data? So you're saying if you reformat install a bunch of crap and fill up the drive, then reformat, and do the whole process 5 more times (reformat then fill up), all the stuff from the first filling up of the drive will still be there? Wouldn't that mean drives would have infinite space? Like I could still find some random song or pic on a drive from 5 reformat/refills ago?

[SipNPiz]

hdd+microwave

[Slie]

Most people seem to have no idea what happens when they delete a file. So how many people out there will have the knowledge and capability to retrieving data from a hard drive that has multiple passes written across the entire disk or magnets? It's not like you walk into someones home and find a data retrieval machine/tools sitting on their desk.

Since you are studying this, how effective is a hardware level format? By that I mean, actually running the commands from the hard drive, using the hard drives software to wipe the drive clean. Not running a format from the OS.

[CTpump]

To really wipe a hard drive use Dariks Boot and Nuke

http://www.dban.org/

This disk will totally destroy data on all hard drives

Once done, smash the hard drive.

That's the only way to really wipe data you don't want anyone to see

To destroy CD's and DVD's use a hammer...same for flash drives

[Hankzilla]

Can't you just destroy your HD?

[kinakina]

killdisk

[PinkFloyd245]

To really wipe a hard drive use Dariks Boot and Nuke


This disk will totally destroy data on all hard drives

Once done, smash the hard drive.

That's the only way to really wipe data you don't want anyone to see

To destroy CD's and DVD's use a hammer...same for flash drives

Wow strong privacy in this thread... what kind of stuff are you guys into haha...?

[lolyrumad]

lol @ computer forensics.

OP u mad widespread use of Truecrypt, TOR, and PGP will put you out of a job?

[CTpump]

killdisk

That's a good utility as well.

[Penile_Dementia]

To really wipe a hard drive use Dariks Boot and Nuke

http://www.dban.org/

This disk will totally destroy data on all hard drives

Once done, smash the hard drive.

That's the only way to really wipe data you don't want anyone to see

To destroy CD's and DVD's use a hammer...same for flash drives

Oh Lawd

[cocaine_emotion]

To really wipe a hard drive use Dariks Boot and Nuke

http://www.dban.org/

This disk will totally destroy data on all hard drives

Once done, smash the hard drive.

That's the only way to really wipe data you don't want anyone to see

To destroy CD's and DVD's use a hammer...same for flash drives

strong pro **** advice

[Pikabrah]

To really wipe a hard drive use Dariks Boot and Nuke

http://www.dban.org/

This disk will totally destroy data on all hard drives

Once done, smash the hard drive.

That's the only way to really wipe data you don't want anyone to see

To destroy CD's and DVD's use a hammer...same for flash drives

I guess you have some experience with this sort of thing.

[DKM89]

nasa burns their hd's when they're done with em

[Ace Thedics]

Secure Erase: http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml

(Though mainly I've used it for "resetting" SSDs.)

Can you elaborate on the process? Or is this an application that rewrites over and over?

What do you mean it's always there? That makes no sense. What about rewriting over the data? So you're saying if you reformat install a bunch of crap and fill up the drive, then reformat, and do the whole process 5 more times (reformat then fill up), all the stuff from the first filling up of the drive will still be there? Wouldn't that mean drives would have infinite space? Like I could still find some random song or pic on a drive from 5 reformat/refills ago?

Lol let me rephrase that, while doing a forensic analysis on a hard drive, anything from deleted/formatted volumes, encrypted volumes, etc can still show up, granted that it's not a 100% probability. Same goes for files in unallocated space.

Since you are studying this, how effective is a hardware level format? By that I mean, actually running the commands from the hard drive, using the hard drives software to format. Not the OS software.

We are currently at the OS level, I'll be happy to bump this thread with that info come next week

The point I was generally trying to make is that given the probability of success (and if I had something to hide) I'd be pretty paranoid.

Some partitions can be rebuilt which recover's the file structure in them, etc.

[Calborn]

so i can still recover lost files that i deleted two years ago?

[Foze]

To really wipe a hard drive use Dariks Boot and Nuke

http://www.dban.org/

This disk will totally destroy data on all hard drives

Once done, smash the hard drive.

That's the only way to really wipe data you don't want anyone to see

To destroy CD's and DVD's use a hammer...same for flash drives

[TreyTrey]

i just go office space when im done with a computer


problem, forensic ****?

[bornfrompain]

When you delete a file, you're just moving it somewhere else. It's like a dump in a city...get rid of the trash but are just relocating it.