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    You have kids, right? have any daughters? You're old enough to have daughters that would legally work at a strip club. How do you feel about your daughter dancing in very sexually suggestive manners in a seedy bar while wearing nothing but a garter and thrusting her open legs in the face of older men much like yourself who are thinking all of the dirty thoughts you think when you go there. Maybe some of them will cop a feel when putting a one dollar bill in her garter and say something quite raunchy and explicit to her describing how they would use her as a sex object to gratify their own selfish carnal pleasures. Their other hand is probably buried deep in their own pants.
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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    I've been told the mg amounts of some by the MP reps a while back, and they all sounded good, and of course every pwo has creatine, but most only have about 1g of creatine. Just by guessing I can tell that all of the assault's ingredients are dosed right, (totals out to a 30,000mg prop blend which is higher than ultima's ingredient mg total and assault has less ingredients than ultima so do the math? which one would you think has better dosed ingredients?)
    This has to be one of the worst posts I've ever read on this website. Getting past the lies about being "in the know" about the massive prop blend....you realize that mg (milligram) amounts of a ton of ingredients doesn't add up to ****, right?
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    ITT assault fans are embarrassed of mikeonopiates.
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    ITT assault fans are embarrassed of mikeonopiates.
    I think he realized that he made a complete fool of himself. That post is signature worthy.
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    ultima didnt do **** for me with the full dose, assault didnt even need a full dose to feel the effects. assault has my vote
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    Originally Posted by Elliptical Envy View Post
    I think he realized that he made a complete fool of himself. That post is signature worthy.
    nah, its just not worth arguing with a bunch of nuthuggers.
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    Originally Posted by diablo9287 View Post
    ultima didnt do **** for me with the full dose, assault didnt even need a full dose to feel the effects. assault has my vote
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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    nah, its just not worth arguing with a bunch of nuthuggers.

    By nuthuggers you mean people smarter than you that can understand an efficacious formula
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    Originally Posted by Illadelphia View Post
    By nuthuggers you mean people smarter than you that can understand an efficacious formula
    if by efficacious you mean a glorified multi-vitamin, then yes.
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    Originally Posted by diablo9287 View Post
    ultima didnt do **** for me with the full dose, assault didnt even need a full dose to feel the effects. assault has my vote
    you guys dont realize that being stim free, ultima isnt something you "feel." you will lift more weight than usual if you give it time
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    Originally Posted by diablo9287 View Post
    ultima didnt do **** for me with the full dose, assault didnt even need a full dose to feel the effects. assault has my vote
    Wait. So you didn't "feel" a stim free pre?
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    you guys dont realize that being stim free, ultima isnt something you "feel." you will lift more weight than usual if you give it time
    Yep.

    If you actually broke down the formula, you'd see that Ultima is far greater than Assault, or just about anyother pre on the market.
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    Well I tried to look at assault, and I bolded thing in assault not found in ultima ... so you can make your own conclusion.

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    I'll not start a creatine war, but trinitine certainly cover mono & con-cret, whatever the ratio there is.



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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    I've been told the mg amounts of some by the MP reps a while back, and they all sounded good, and of course every pwo has creatine, but most only have about 1g of creatine. Just by guessing I can tell that all of the assault's ingredients are dosed right, (totals out to a 30,000mg prop blend which is higher than ultima's ingredient mg total and assault has less ingredients than ultima so do the math? which one would you think has better dosed ingredients?)
    Originally Posted by Elliptical Envy View Post
    This has to be one of the worst posts I've ever read on this website. Getting past the lies about being "in the know" about the massive prop blend....you realize that mg (milligram) amounts of a ton of ingredients doesn't add up to ****, right?
    Lol This is ^^^^^^^

    Its one thing if you like Assault better its another if your trying to make the above part of the reason. Good laugh today.

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    You have kids, right? have any daughters? You're old enough to have daughters that would legally work at a strip club. How do you feel about your daughter dancing in very sexually suggestive manners in a seedy bar while wearing nothing but a garter and thrusting her open legs in the face of older men much like yourself who are thinking all of the dirty thoughts you think when you go there. Maybe some of them will cop a feel when putting a one dollar bill in her garter and say something quite raunchy and explicit to her describing how they would use her as a sex object to gratify their own selfish carnal pleasures. Their other hand is probably buried deep in their own pants.
    U mad?
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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    assault isn't really traditionally stimmed, all it has is a low dose of caffeine, assault is made to perform better over a longer period of time as well (CONCRET,creapure,beta alanine,citrulline malate,etc), and btw they are all at hefty doses as well.
    certain things are in effective doses: the effectively dosed ingredients are:
    -Creatine
    -Caffiene
    -Beta Alanine
    It is underdosed or has inferior ingredients:
    -Citrulline malate
    -Arginine
    -Pyrodoxine hcl
    -Cyanocobalamin

    Assualt isnt bad but ultima is much better
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    Matt and all @ Omega Sports really appreciate all the positive support for Ultima here.

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    Anyone do 1 scoop ultima, 1 scoop assault preworkout?
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    Originally Posted by stewseo View Post
    ubt stack x 2 from ai's site,
    assault, sizeon x2, myo, triazole x2, some multi and fish oil caps just to save on shipping from grn. Gonna be a fun bulk. No ultima on grn
    what is grn? aware me please

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    Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Wait. So you didn't "feel" a stim free pre?
    I feel it. In my heart. In my soul.
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    Originally Posted by Pho3NiX View Post
    Well I tried to look at assault, and I bolded thing in assault not found in ultima ... so you can make your own conclusion.



    I'll assume TMG cover glycine, P5P cover Pyridoxine , and MB12 cover Cyanocobalamin
    I'll not start a creatine war, but trinitine certainly cover mono & con-cret, whatever the ratio there is.



    If you like assault, I'd probably recommend you to try Ultima with some taurine & caffeine.
    Well, to be specific... Ultima has chelated creatine, among other types. It contains no Creatine HCL. C-bol contains creatine HCL, though.

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    Originally Posted by stewseo View Post
    Anyone do 1 scoop ultima, 1 scoop assault preworkout?
    now this is what I plan on doing next, I just got Ultima, and I LOVE the focus effects of it.

    However, I also have Assault, which makes me SLEEPY everytime i use it! but my friends have no issues with Assault. (i also noticed on bb.com's assault product info page, it lists "may cause drowsiness").


    we shall see what happens when i stack both of them. Ultima + Assault.
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    big bump for assault.
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    I love Assault. The energy is clean, the focus is amazing, the taste is mouth watering and the profile is stacked.... Ive been through about 2 tubs of Assault and never had a problem. I just recently picked up a tub of GlycerGrow and combined the two for the first time today for Back and Bi day (keep in mind ive been stim free for 4 weeks). I put 2 scoops of GlycerGrow on my tounge and washed them down with 1/2 scoop of Assault, then put 1 scoop of GG in with my Xtend during my workout. I had the best workout in a very long time. My veins were poppin while doin my BB curls. I recommend for people to try this combination...you will thank me.
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    Assault is good stuff...I think it's good to compare ingrediant panels every now and then, but pre workouts are all about energy/focus/pump, and sometimes "poorly" formulated products work better than others (at least for me), although Assault does have a pretty good profile
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    Originally Posted by stewseo View Post
    Which do you guys prefer?
    Ultima
    Focus, concentrate, lift, rest adequately, repeat. No talking.

    The only way you will get smarter is by playing a smarter opponent.
    The only way you will get stronger is by training with a stronger partner.

    If you need to grunt while moving some heavy ass weight in the gym, go for it. I probably can't hear you anyway since I have some Black Sabbath turned to 11 in my ears.

    But grunting in the locker room, especially from behind a stall door, is just fooking disturbing. Please refrain.
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