Is this 4 day routine that hits every muscle twice a week too much?

[JJA427]

Would the following routine be ok or is it too much? I would start with weights that are 75% of my 10 rep max and use the same weights for both days, if I complete all the reps I will add 5 pounds the following week. I've been lifting for about 9 months now and I have been doing fullbody routines since I started so I would like to try something new.

Sunday: Back, Biceps, Calfs
Deadlift 3x5
BB Rows 3x8
Seated Row 3x8
Weighted Chin-ups 3x8
Calf Raises 3x10

Monday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps and 3 sets of squats
Squats 3x8
Flat BB Bench 3x8
Incline DB Press 3x8
Military Press 3x8
Tricep Dips 3x8

Tuesday: rest
Wednesday: repeat back and bicep routine
Thursday: repeat legs, chest, shoulders and triceps routine but replace military press with shoulder DB press
Friday: rest
Saturday: rest

[MikeDPaolini]

You could almost do an every other day routine. Like one on one off.

[mbinda]

Doesn't make much sense to be honest. Legs, chest & shoulders all on the same day? Read the stickies for some good routines like Ripptoes Starting Strength or All Pros beginner routine.

[JJA427]

Doesn't make much sense to be honest. Legs, chest & shoulders all on the same day? Read the stickies for some good routines like Ripptoes Starting Strength or All Pros beginner routine.

I knew someone was going to mention that. I would only do 3 sets of squats for legs before I start chest, shoulders and triceps. I was just trying to fit squats into it somewhere but I guess I could always alternate them with deadlifts. I've read the stickies because I've completed 3 rounds of "A Simple Beginners Routine", I've also done HST.

[DevonteJ85]

just eat a lot and u should be fine

[JJA427]

ttt

[Slow-N-Steady]

Add a separate day for legs. It makes no sense to take the largest muscle group of the body and try and do ONE exercise for them before hitting chest/shoulder/tri.

[JJA427]

Add a separate day for legs. It makes no sense to take the largest muscle group of the body and try and do ONE exercise for them before hitting chest/shoulder/tri.

Thanks for the advice, I will add a separate day for legs. Five days a week will be too much so it looks like I would be better off rotating the back & biceps day and chest, shoulders and triceps day every other week.

[Ric_Daddy]

Gregg Avedon's push/pull routine is kinda similar. He said he did this one for years and it got him most his gains

PUSH DAY: MONDAY & THURSDAY
Chest, Shoulders, and Triceps

PULL DAY: TUESDAY & FRIDAY
Legs, Back, and Biceps

http://www.greggavedon.com/fitness/13/31.html

[mbinda]

Gregg Avedon's push/pull routine is kinda similar. He said he did this one for years and it got him most his gains

PUSH DAY: MONDAY & THURSDAY
Chest, Shoulders, and Triceps

PULL DAY: TUESDAY & FRIDAY
Legs, Back, and Biceps

http://www.greggavedon.com/fitness/13/31.html

Not a true push/pull routine - he was doing squats & leg press on PULL day - those are both pushing movements, likewise he was doing upright rows on PUSH day - clearly a pulling movement. More of just a 2 day split. I think a lot of people just try to clump pushing muscle groups and pulling muscle groups and think it is a push/pull routine but to me a push/pull routine is more about what movements you do not the muscles worked. As evident with shoulders you can hit them with both pushing & pulling movements like presses vs upright rows.

[Ric_Daddy]

Not a true push/pull routine - he was doing squats & leg press on PULL day - those are both pushing movements, likewise he was doing upright rows on PUSH day - clearly a pulling movement. More of just a 2 day split. I think a lot of people just try to clump pushing muscle groups and pulling muscle groups and think it is a push/pull routine but to me a push/pull routine is more about what movements you do not the muscles worked. As evident with shoulders you can hit them with both pushing & pulling movements like presses vs upright rows.

I don't think he's too bothered...