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    is the Dip Machine as effective at hitting tris as regular dips

    In a dip station?

    I like to aim my dips towards my chest, and later in the workout use the dip machine to hit my tris.

    Am I cheating myself out of anything? Should I alternate between aiming for my chest or tris at the dip station, or is this ok?
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    Originally Posted by AdamDTX View Post
    In a dip station?

    I like to aim my dips towards my chest, and later in the workout use the dip machine to hit my tris.

    Am I cheating myself out of anything? Should I alternate between aiming for my chest or tris at the dip station, or is this ok?
    Your triceps do the same work regardless of whether you're doing a leaning forward "chest dip" or a an upright dip. The only thing you're changing with that angle is that by being more upright, you use less chest and more of your lats to move the upper arms. For the triceps, its the same work in both scenarios.
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    So is the question are machine dips as effective as regular dips or your position on the machine?
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    Originally Posted by AdamDTX View Post
    In a dip station?

    I like to aim my dips towards my chest, and later in the workout use the dip machine to hit my tris.

    Am I cheating myself out of anything? Should I alternate between aiming for my chest or tris at the dip station, or is this ok?
    What machine? The Hammer Strength one tend to increase chest involvement...
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    I think dips focus more on your shoulders with tris, and chest as secondary muscles worked.
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    Originally Posted by iballin08 View Post
    I think dips focus more on your shoulders with tris, and chest as secondary muscles worked.
    ^No. Dips hit primarily the triceps with chest & shoulders as secondary. Ofcourse when you lean forward and keep your head down & elbows out wide then your chest is worked harder but the triceps are still the primary muscle hit not the shoulders.
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    I actually prefer machines because it's a bit easier on my elbows, generally. Also, it allows a more precise adjustment of weight. Just make sure you sit in it at the right angle to hit the body part desired.

    Does it actually matter? Not much, if any. Some people will tell you free weight > machines, but it's all just preferential. Best of luck, bro.
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    Originally Posted by rubik_3x3x3 View Post
    I actually prefer machines because it's a bit easier on my elbows, generally. Also, it allows a more precise adjustment of weight. Just make sure you sit in it at the right angle to hit the body part desired.

    Does it actually matter? Not much, if any. Some people will tell you free weight > machines, but it's all just preferential. Best of luck, bro.
    Uh, no. Free weights > machines, without a doubt. Doesn't mean machines are completely worthless though.
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    Originally Posted by matjusm View Post
    Your triceps do the same work regardless of whether you're doing a leaning forward "chest dip" or a an upright dip. The only thing you're changing with that angle is that by being more upright, you use less chest and more of your lats to move the upper arms. For the triceps, its the same work in both scenarios.
    thanks, wasn't even aware lats were involved.

    Originally Posted by rbaxter View Post
    So is the question are machine dips as effective as regular dips or your position on the machine?
    machine dips as effective as regular dips

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    What machine? The Hammer Strength one tend to increase chest involvement...
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    Originally Posted by iballin08 View Post
    I think dips focus more on your shoulders with tris, and chest as secondary muscles worked.
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    At 240 lbs + 55 lbs of plates, doing an equal workout on the machine is pretty much impossible. Just becomes completely awkward.
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    Originally Posted by Tallbill View Post
    At 240 lbs + 55 lbs of plates, doing an equal workout on the machine is pretty much impossible. Just becomes completely awkward.
    for me its the opposite.when i got to 55 or 60 added lbs,it felt like my shoulders or coller was going to break off.ive moved to the dip station and they have thanked me.i know its a different movement and im not actually dipping 400lbs,but i have pretty strong tris and it lets me work them without breaking anything else.the only thing now is my grip and wrist strength,my tris can press the weight but my hands cant hold it yet.
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    Lat's help a bit to keep the arms from splaying out to the side, but they're moreso involved when the elbow travels behind your spine because that's when the lat can perform flexion.
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    Originally Posted by iballin08 View Post
    I think dips focus more on your shoulders with tris, and chest as secondary muscles worked.
    I don't think so.
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    Originally Posted by matjusm View Post
    Your triceps do the same work regardless of whether you're doing a leaning forward "chest dip" or a an upright dip. The only thing you're changing with that angle is that by being more upright, you use less chest and more of your lats to move the upper arms. For the triceps, its the same work in both scenarios.
    This is false. Once again, you're proving that you simply can not understand the notion of mmc and feeling. For someone who can focus, Triceps dip is veeery different form a chest dip.

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    I like to aim my dips towards my chest, and later in the workout use the dip machine to hit my tris.

    or is this ok?
    OP, it's perfectly fine. Lean for chest, elbows flared; upright, elbows tucked for Triceps. Machine OR parallel bars..
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