question to athiests

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

Our death should be genetically determined.

That doesnt even make any sense...... ****ing hell, nobody could be this stupid...

**SexiestMiscer** · 02-11-2011, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by bcg737

That doesnt even make any sense...... ****ing hell, nobody could be this stupid...

If we are nothing but capsules carrying genetics then why can't scientists brand us with expiration dates. Obviously it can be determined through geneology if death is genetic.

**Molec** · 02-11-2011, 01:13 AM

lol

**_Translucency** · 02-11-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

What is the scientific reasoning behind death? You know how thiests say that it was fate/written. What do athiests say that goes beyond stating that its just the cut off of blood to heart.

Having not read the thread, I have a hard time believing that is a serious question.

**nakedsnake** · 02-11-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

Our death should be genetically determined.

No one in recorded history has lived much longer than 120 years, so you could say our genetics simply do not allow us to live past that age.. and our genetics determine that individually.

**dakensta** · 02-11-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

But why do they according to athiests?

Atheism isn't a theory about how everything in the universe works, it's just a belief that God is made up shyt.

Originally Posted by jovotovo

since athiests believe in evolution

Atheism isn't about trying to work out how organisms came to be in the state they are, it's just a belief that God is made up shyt.

Atheism =/= evolutionism.

**ubik** · 02-11-2011, 01:15 AM

If you had a perfect understanding of the human genome and how it relates to disease, you could effectively estimate someone's maximum lifespan, like in the movie gattaca. The study of genetics isn't that well advanced, and accident and lifestyle factors introduce uncontrolled variables though.

**Winningest** · 02-11-2011, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

If we are nothing but capsules carrying genetics then why can't scientists brand us with expiration dates. Obviously it can be determined through geneology if death is genetic.

It can actually be estimated to a large degree, and will only get more accurate as science develops further. It will never be exact however because there are so many environmental factors that the math involved would be absolutely ridiculous and not really worthwhile. Did you graduate from high school? You're misrepresenting theists pretty badly here, the **** you're saying is borderline retarded.

**SexiestMiscer** · 02-11-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Winningest

It can actually be estimated to a large degree, and will only get more accurate as science develops further. It will never be exact however because there are so many environmental factors that the math involved would be absolutely ridiculous and not really worthwhile. Did you graduate from high school? You're misrepresenting theists pretty badly here, the **** you're saying is borderline retarded.

How am I representing anyone? I am just one person.

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

If we are nothing but capsules carrying genetics then why can't scientists brand us with expiration dates. Obviously it can be determined through geneology if death is genetic.

Genetics are a chance game, Certain genes have a chance of being activated, so one of your parents are diabetic, the gene has a 50% chance of being passed on to you, it then has a smaller chance of being actually activated due to environmental factors. This can be applied to hundreds of disorders. Also the effect of aging makes certain diseases and disorders more likely to happen; this raises the chance of certain things to happen. There are hundreds of other variables (envormental or otherwise) that contribute to our life span, so simply reading genetics cannot give a definitive answer.

If humans were made of milk and cheese, then we could have an expiration date, but things are far more complicated than that.

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

How am I representing anyone? I am just one person.

I agree, were you homeschooled?

you must be, a proper education would not produce someone of your low intellect.

**w0lverine** · 02-11-2011, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by dakensta

Atheism isn't a theory about how everything in the universe works, it's just a belief that God is made up shyt.

Atheism isn't about trying to work out how organisms came to be in the state they are, it's just a belief that God is made up shyt.

Atheism =/= evolutionism.

I love how atheists always try to defend "what atheism is about"

stfu, we all know you believe in evolution and all the other theories that are scientifically related

**SexiestMiscer** · 02-11-2011, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by bcg737

Genetics are a chance game, Certain genes have a chance of being activated, so one of your parents are diabetic, the gene has a 50% chance of being passed on to you, it then has a smaller chance of being actually activated due to environmental factors. This can be applied to hundreds of disorders. Also the effect of aging makes certain diseases and disorders more likely to happen; this raises the chance of certain things to happen. There are hundreds of other variables (envormental or otherwise) that contribute to our life span, so simply reading genetics cannot give a definitive answer.

If humans were made of milk and cheese, then we could have an expiration date, but things are far more complicated than that.

So why do theists say that god has written while athiests say they don't know why s/he died so early.

**Winningest** · 02-11-2011, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

How am I representing anyone? I am just one person.

You're the kind of person people think of when they think of theists, and the **** you say confirms those stereotypes. By making a call-out thread you're representing them to atheists to some degree whether you like it or not.

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by w0lverine

I love how atheists always try to defend "what atheism is about"

stfu, we all know you believe in evolution and all the other theories that are scientifically related

Umm, no, not all athiests are.

If every athiest on earth belived in evolution, you could say that.... but you cant

**sportsfan7** · 02-11-2011, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

Our death should be genetically determined.

dna is just code for the production of proteins.

the proteins encoded for just happen to produce the human body when they're all produced together. death is a result of the human body breaking.

pretend a tv breaks because its electric chord snapped. the role of the dna would be to choose what material the chord is made out of and the shape/size of the chord. death would occur earlier or later depending on the strength of the material and shape that the dna coded for.

the reason i brought up evolution and the selfish gene was to explain why evolution hasn't produced humans with immortal life spans. if evolution doesn't produce humans with immortal life-spans then it produces mortal humans. if humans are mortal then by definition they die. so, that answers your question as to why humans die.

**SexiestMiscer** · 02-11-2011, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by bcg737

I agree, were you homeschooled?

you must be, a proper education would not produce someone of your low intellect.

How do you know I am someone of low intellect? You are judging me by my forum posts?

**w0lverine** · 02-11-2011, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by bcg737

Umm, no, not all athiests are.

If every athiest on earth belived in evolution, you could say that.... but you cant

You are an exact example of what im talking about. why do you care about what other atheists believe in? do you believe in evolution? if hte answer was YES, please stfu

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

So why do theists say that god has written while athiests say they don't know why s/he died so early.

WFT are you talking about?

seriously, read what you just wrote..... and then hit yourself repeatedly with a can of soup...

**ubik** · 02-11-2011, 01:22 AM

The pope supports the theory of evolution. Some athiests believe in alternate theories.

**Winningest** · 02-11-2011, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by w0lverine

I love how atheists always try to defend "what atheism is about"

stfu, we all know you believe in evolution and all the other theories that are scientifically related

There are atheists who have never even been to school before let alone have any sort of understanding of evolution, I have met several myself.

**SexiestMiscer** · 02-11-2011, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Winningest

You're the kind of person people think of when they think of theists, and the **** you say confirms those stereotypes. By making a call-out thread you're representing them to atheists to some degree whether you like it or not.

So if I was a gay white man, would you also be a gay white man?

**w0lverine** · 02-11-2011, 01:24 AM

OP you are aware that there are such things as genetic mutations, and while some have been discovered, many are still undiscovered and science isn't able to explain everything.

why are you questioning atheists anyways

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by w0lverine

You are an exact example of what im talking about. why do you care about what other atheists believe in? do you believe in evolution? if hte answer was YES, please stfu

Yes, I am ONE atheist that belives in evolution. that does not mean that every athiest belives in what I belive, you cannot say atheists are associated with evolution if not all atheists belive in evolution.

Seriously, my five year old neice could grasp this simple concept, why can you?

**Winningest** · 02-11-2011, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

So if I was a gay white man, would you also be a gay white man?

Sure, wanna have dirty buttsex in a seedy motel somewhere?

**SexiestMiscer** · 02-11-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by w0lverine

OP you are aware that there are such things as genetic mutations, and while some have been discovered, many are still undiscovered and science isn't able to explain everything.

why are you questioning atheists anyways

What's wrong with questioning?

**nakedsnake** · 02-11-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by w0lverine

I love how atheists always try to defend "what atheism is about"

stfu, we all know you believe in evolution and all the other theories that are scientifically related

not all theories.
example, i cant stand watching anything about theoretical sciences that can't be proven/tested like wormholes, whiteholes and how they try to explain how the 4 forces of nature (strong nuclear, gravity, electrical, weak nuclear) tore apart from eachother at the big bang. are you ****in serious? that sounds like religious fiction rather than science. so no, not every athiest believes in all scientific theories.

**w0lverine** · 02-11-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Winningest

There are atheists who have never even been to school before let alone have any sort of understanding of evolution, I have met several myself.

another +1 for me.

why are you defending the fact that there are atheists who differ from your beliefs? who gives a fuk really

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by SexiestMiscer

How do you know I am someone of low intellect? You are judging me by my forum posts?

Of course i am, its the only thing i have to go on. and based on them I can see you have a horrible understanding of:

-evolution
-genetics
-nature
-chemistry
-brain anatomy/operation

**bcg737** · 02-11-2011, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by w0lverine

another +1 for me.

why are you defending the fact that there are atheists who differ from your beliefs? who gives a fuk really

Because you are misrepresenting atheists, you are saying things that simply arent true. that is reason enough to refute you

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