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    What to take with aromatase inhibitors?

    Just wondering if anyone knows if you should take a test booster or anything else with a aromatase inhibitor or estrogen blocker?

    I got a huge cycle am about to use and I am wondering if I should just use aromatase inhibitors and estrogen blockers after a test cycle. Also do I need to take them with DHEA? or after for PCT?

    My test pack (I am not going to explain what these all do...I will just tell you that these herbs are what all companys use in there test boosters but use a differnt chemical name..

    My Test booster pack

    2x times a week on leg days, and cycle each herb once a week.

    1.Tribulus Terrestris (1000mg)
    2.Panax Ginseng (1000mg)
    3.Horney goat weed (750mg)
    4.Saw Palmetto (160mg)
    5.Ginkgo Biloba (60mg)
    6.Fenugreek (500mg)
    7.Maca (150mg)
    8.Nettle Root Extract (250mg)
    9.DHEA (25mg)
    10.Rhodiola Rosea (500mg)

    Anti-Aromatase/Estrogen Inhibitor pack

    1.Formadrol XT (1050mg)
    2.Soy Isoflavones (150mg)
    3.Green Tea Extract (400mg)
    4.Milk thistle (200mg)
    5.Hawthorn Berry (550mg)
    6.Astragalus (500mg)
    7.Grape Seed (100mg)

    Sleep GH pack

    1.ZMA Testojack (50mg)
    2.Melatonin (3mg)
    3.Gaba (750mg)

    Just wondering if its a waste of time taking a aromatase inhibitor with a test booster?


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    Originally Posted by Fraleigh View Post
    Just wondering if anyone knows if you should take a test booster or anything else with a aromatase inhibitor or estrogen blocker?

    I got a huge cycle am about to use and I am wondering if I should just use aromatase inhibitors and estrogen blockers after a test cycle. Also do I need to take them with DHEA? or after for PCT?

    My test pack (I am not going to explain what these all do lol!)

    My Test booster pack

    2x times a week on leg days

    1.Tribulus Terrestris (1000mg)
    2.Panax Ginseng (1000mg)
    3.Horney goat weed (750mg)
    4.Saw Palmetto (160mg)
    5.Ginkgo Biloba (60mg)
    6.Fenugreek (500mg)
    7.Maca (150mg)
    8.Nettle Root Extract (250mg)
    9.DHEA (25mg)
    10.Rhodiola Rosea (500mg)

    Anti-Aromatase/Estrogen Inhibitor pack

    1.Formadrol XT (1050mg)
    2.Soy Isoflavones (150mg)
    3.Green Tea Extract (400mg)
    4.Milk thistle (200mg)
    5.Hawthorn Berry (550mg)
    6.Astragalus (500mg)
    7.Grape Seed (100mg)

    Sleep GH pack

    1.ZMA Testojack (50mg)
    2.Melatonin (3mg)
    3.Gaba (750mg)

    Just wondering if its a waste of time taking a aromatase inhibitor with a test booster?


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    its waste of time taking that rubbish there.why bother? its all crap.dont go taking estrogen down or you will lose gains and look flat.you need estrogen for muscle and strength.why take dhea? it does fik all for anything and can leave your heart damaged and high blood pressure.you really need to take a look at what you are taking.

    1.Tribulus Terrestris (1000mg) WASTE OF MONEY DOES NOTHING
    2.Panax Ginseng (1000mg) DOES WORK BUT LEFT ME WITH HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE(MIGHT NOT TO YOU)
    3.Horney goat weed (750mg) BOLLOKS WASTE OF MONEY
    4.Saw Palmetto (160mg) WHY? FOR WHAT?
    5.Ginkgo Biloba (60mg) THINS BLOOD THATS ABOUT IT
    6.Fenugreek (500mg) RUBBISH
    7.Maca (150mg) RUBBISH
    8.Nettle Root Extract (250mg) WHY TAKE IT?
    9.DHEA (25mg) DANGEROUS AND USELESS
    10.Rhodiola Rosea (500mg) YAWNS

    Anti-Aromatase/Estrogen Inhibitor pack

    1.Formadrol XT (1050mg) WHY? CAN CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS AND FUKS UP YOUR REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS(USA STATE WARNING)
    2.Soy Isoflavones (150mg) YAWNS
    3.Green Tea Extract (400mg) GREAT FOR WEIGHT LOSS AND ANTIOXIDANT
    4.Milk thistle (200mg) WHY? ARE YOU ON PRO HORMONES?
    5.Hawthorn Berry (550mg) WHY? ARE YOU ON PRO HORMONES?
    6.Astragalus (500mg) RUBBISH
    7.Grape Seed (100mg) DANGEROUS IF LARGE AMOUNTS TAKEN.WHY TAKE IT?

    Sleep GH pack

    1.ZMA Testojack (50mg) YAWNS
    2.Melatonin (3mg) SLEEP
    3.Gaba (750mg) USELESS
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    Originally Posted by johngoomba View Post
    its waste of time taking that rubbish there.why bother? its all crap.dont go taking estrogen down or you will lose gains and look flat.you need estrogen for muscle and strength.why take dhea? it does fik all for anything and can leave your heart damaged and high blood pressure.you really need to take a look at what you are taking.

    1.Tribulus Terrestris (1000mg) WASTE OF MONEY DOES NOTHING
    2.Panax Ginseng (1000mg) DOES WORK BUT LEFT ME WITH HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE(MIGHT NOT TO YOU)
    3.Horney goat weed (750mg) BOLLOKS WASTE OF MONEY
    4.Saw Palmetto (160mg) WHY? FOR WHAT?
    5.Ginkgo Biloba (60mg) THINS BLOOD THATS ABOUT IT
    6.Fenugreek (500mg) RUBBISH
    7.Maca (150mg) RUBBISH
    8.Nettle Root Extract (250mg) WHY TAKE IT?
    9.DHEA (25mg) DANGEROUS AND USELESS
    10.Rhodiola Rosea (500mg) YAWNS

    Anti-Aromatase/Estrogen Inhibitor pack

    1.Formadrol XT (1050mg) WHY? CAN CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS AND FUKS UP YOUR REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS(USA STATE WARNING)
    2.Soy Isoflavones (150mg) YAWNS
    3.Green Tea Extract (400mg) GREAT FOR WEIGHT LOSS AND ANTIOXIDANT
    4.Milk thistle (200mg) WHY? ARE YOU ON PRO HORMONES?
    5.Hawthorn Berry (550mg) WHY? ARE YOU ON PRO HORMONES?
    6.Astragalus (500mg) RUBBISH
    7.Grape Seed (100mg) DANGEROUS IF LARGE AMOUNTS TAKEN.WHY TAKE IT?

    Sleep GH pack

    1.ZMA Testojack (50mg) YAWNS
    2.Melatonin (3mg) SLEEP
    3.Gaba (750mg) USELESS
    Iv had these hebs for a year now and when I use them on 16 week cycle I gain 25-35lbs. and 5-8lbs of fat. They do work, overall I increase test levels close to novedex xt. I am just adding a Anti-Aromatase to see what happens. Its not a waste of money because I can get 3 years of cycles out of them but I do agree using them everyday is a waste, same with any supp. And to back things up more I have tested them my self with my test levels from the doctor.

    regarding DHEA, your right. I only take 25mg a week and majority of it will be converted into testosterone. If you use it to much or a higher dose it will be converted to other hormones in the body, the most prominent being ADG. So I no how it works.

    regarding the herbs, I cycle these suppements once a week to avoid building up a tolerance. If you fail to cycle, you'll quickly build up resistance to them, and they will completely stop working. I bet if you have tryed any of these herbs I use you didn't use them right.

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    Therr are much better choices than ur stack...and half of what u listed is worthless..

    There are also mich better ai's
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    Originally Posted by Hyruliangoat View Post
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    Therr are much better choices than ur stack...and half of what u listed is worthless..

    There are also mich better ai's
    I have ALL the same ingredients as your list of boosters, they just give there ingredients a differnt cemicial name. and your 17 years old...what would you no about test boosters, they dont work at your age lol
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    What the... did you really buy all these separately?
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    Originally Posted by DBee View Post
    What the... did you really buy all these separately?
    ya lol, its cheaper then wasting money on sups, only creatine is worth the money becuase its only thing that really works :P

    I cycle these suppements once a week to avoid building up a tolerance. IF you dont you'll quickly build up resistance to them, and they will completely stop working..which is a waste of money. So I take one herb once a week and load them all at the same time once a week.

    I have all the ingredients of all the test boosters that really work, there ingredients just have a differnt cemicial name.
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    Originally Posted by Fraleigh View Post
    ya lol, its cheaper then wasting money on sups, only creatine is worth the money becuase its only thing that really works :P

    I cycle these suppements once a week to avoid building up a tolerance. IF you dont you'll quickly build up resistance to them, and they will completely stop working..which is a waste of money. So I take one herb once a week and load them all at the same time once a week.
    Dude, honestly this may be all psychological to you and the affects that you think they these herbs may have, at your age, stick with creatine, protein, and eat clean, and you should be fine!!
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    Originally Posted by droyal View Post
    Dude, honestly this may be all psychological to you and the affects that you think they these herbs may have, at your age, stick with creatine, protein, and eat clean, and you should be fine!!
    have had tests done on this cycle 4 months ago, it does work for me. Not anywhere near a pro hormone or steriods though lol
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    Originally Posted by Fraleigh View Post
    ya lol, its cheaper then wasting money on sups, only creatine is worth the money becuase its only thing that really works :P

    I cycle these suppements once a week to avoid building up a tolerance. IF you dont you'll quickly build up resistance to them, and they will completely stop working..which is a waste of money. So I take one herb once a week and load them all at the same time once a week.

    I have all the ingredients of all the test boosters that really work, there ingredients just have a differnt cemicial name.
    You bought....all those supps but see bold....

    Wait build resisstance than they become a waste..so you take it once a wekk..this has to be a troll. And you have the ones that work...like tribulus....
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    Originally Posted by huge908 View Post
    You bought....all those supps but see bold....

    Wait build resisstance than they become a waste..so you take it once a wekk..this has to be a troll. And you have the ones that work...like tribulus....
    I dont need to explain anything, it works better then anything else. I will be at 235-245lbs + 4% BF using my cycle in 4 months without using ph's or roids ... lets talk about the main topic people
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    DHEA
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    IIRC, this has the potential to be a pretty legit combo. Some of the other things you listed are good for overall health etc..
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    IIRC, this has the potential to be a pretty legit combo. Some of the other things you listed are good for overall health etc..
    DHEA is a hard one to test because there is to many bad studys.. I think the formadrol keeps its conversion to testosterone safer and also taking it once a week helps its estrogen conversion. I will know when I do a next blood test on this cycle.
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    IIRC, this has the potential to be a pretty legit combo. Some of the other things you listed are good for overall health etc..
    And would use use DHEA for a cycle then use formadrol xt for pct? or take them together so DHEA converts into test better?
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    17 but im smart enough not to ever buy half of what u bought for a reason...i can research things out of my own interest regardless of wether I take them or not



    and you actually dont have most of the ingredients in what I listed, DAA being one of them in just one product...
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    Originally Posted by Hyruliangoat View Post
    17 but im smart enough not to ever buy half of what u bought for a reason...i can research things out of my own interest regardless of wether I take them or not



    and you actually dont have most of the ingredients in what I listed, DAA being one of them in just one product...
    you dont even know any of the chemical names of these herbs. And I have amino acids dumb ****
    I take D-Aspartate or also called DAA!

    and the best test booster out of what you listed is activate, wish main ingereint is 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran OR ALSO CALLED Stinging Nettle Root Extract. And the other main ingredients I have in soy isoflavones and L-Dopa bean which is just Mucuna Pruriens extract. Funny how one of the top test boosters is just Nettle Root Extract and Mucuna Pruriens.

    I can break you anytime with your lack of knowledge with the money grabing suppements you listed

    Your stupid enough not to buy half of what I got bud.
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    Originally Posted by Fraleigh View Post
    you dont even no any of the chemical names of these herbs. And I have amino acids lol
    I take 3 grams of D-Aspartate every morning shhhh

    and the best test booster out of what you listed is activate, wish main ingereint is 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran OR ALSO CALLED Stinging Nettle Root Extract. And the other main ingredients I have in soy isoflavones and L-Dopa which is just Mucuna Pruriens extract. Funny how one of the top test boosters is just Nettle Root Extract and Mucuna Pruriens which are very effective.

    i can break you anytime with your lack of knowledge with the money grabing suppements you listed

    Your stupid enough not to buy half of what I got bud.
    You don't even "no" how to spell or articulate effectively. He's trying to help and you're being a condescending prick. Get the fk out of here.
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    Originally Posted by Fraleigh View Post
    you dont even no any of the chemical names of these herbs. And I have amino acids dumb ****
    I take 3 grams of D-Aspartate or also called DAA!

    and the best test booster out of what you listed is activate, wish main ingereint is 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran OR ALSO CALLED Stinging Nettle Root Extract. And the other main ingredients I have in soy isoflavones and L-Dopa which is just Mucuna Pruriens extract. Funny how one of the top test boosters is just Nettle Root Extract and Mucuna Pruriens.

    I can break you anytime with your lack of knowledge with the money grabing suppements you listed

    Your stupid enough not to buy half of what I got bud.
    This coming from the guy that bought Trib expecting it to boost your test
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    Originally Posted by Fraleigh View Post
    Just wondering if anyone knows if you should take a test booster or anything else with a aromatase inhibitor or estrogen blocker?

    I got a huge cycle am about to use and I am wondering if I should just use aromatase inhibitors and estrogen blockers after a test cycle. Also do I need to take them with DHEA? or after for PCT?

    1.Tribulus Terrestris (1000mg)
    2.Panax Ginseng (1000mg)
    3.Horney goat weed (750mg)
    4.Saw Palmetto (160mg)
    5.Ginkgo Biloba (60mg)
    6.Fenugreek (500mg)
    7.Maca (150mg)
    8.Nettle Root Extract (250mg)
    9.DHEA (25mg)
    10.Rhodiola Rosea (500mg)

    Anti-Aromatase/Estrogen Inhibitor pack

    1.Formadrol XT (1050mg)
    2.Soy Isoflavones (150mg)
    3.Green Tea Extract (400mg)
    4.Milk thistle (200mg)
    5.Hawthorn Berry (550mg)
    6.Astragalus (500mg)
    7.Grape Seed (100mg)


    Just wondering if its a waste of time taking a aromatase inhibitor with a test booster?


    Thanks
    Yes you can crush me with your knowledge thats why your asking a simple question not only in the beggining of the post but in the end? Makes sense.

    1) Formadrol doesnt even use formestane like before and transdermal is the superior route for formestane

    2) tribulus is bunk, unless you like just a heavier sperm load

    3) you are taking bulk and not specific extracts of the herb

    4) more than half of what you said is more effective from an anti oxidant perspective, not so much as a test raising ingredient.

    5) DHEA is nothing special except in the context of much older men

    plenty more to be said about what you are taking. Its not to say that theyr bad, but they arent these spectacular ingredients either.

    Money grabbing supplements yet you take similair ingredients lol? And creatine being the only supp that works? Please. You also contradict yourself "Your stupid enough to not buy half of what I bought" but wait prior to that you said "what do you know about test boosters they dont work at your age" So if they were to not work then why would I need to buy them? If I were to buy them I would be dumb because according to you thered be no effect yet later I am stupid for not buying them??? I see.. You asked a question and I answered it, what more did you want?


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    I guess your not as dumb as I thought lol You know a little something..I repect that. This cycle works great and I don't need kids like you saying it doesn't work because of what they have read online. I have had blood tests done on this cycle and its remarkable how my t-levels sckrocketed higher to when I used androstenedione.
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