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    Originally Posted by Armord View Post
    I always thought of dead lift as the most basic show of strength and hence the mentality stuck.

    Beats the f*ck outa me why it's a staple in any work out, it's like a squat with lower back added and hella more dangerous.

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    ive hurt myself more squatting than anything else.. hurt my knee and my back, leaning too far forward fuks the lower back, exploding upward too fast with heavy weight will fold your back the wrong way if you aren't careful.
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    Originally Posted by bigjay10.0 View Post
    itt op doesn't deadlift and wants the misc to help him justify his decision.......he insults everyone who disagrees and writes "exactly!!!!!" after every post that supports his decision. Nobody cares what you do and 7 plates on each side of a bar being lifted is quite "impressive" whether you like it or not. Good luck with your fitness goals......
    yes i dont deadlift because it doesnt say i deadlift 480 lbs in my sig or anything you retarded kunt


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    Originally Posted by JTrain306 View Post
    stopped reading there. If you're deadlifting a LOT of weight (500-600+), you're not skinny as a rail. Not happening.




    Regardless, I still love deads. The skinny kids who can go heavy tend to have abnormally long arms/short torsos. I've also seen skinny-ass people put up decent numbers on the bench, but everyone and their grandma in America equates that lift to full-body strength (first thing you get asked by random non-lifters is "how much do you bench?") But for averagely built people, like myself, I think that it is pretty impressive to have strong deadlift numbers. I've seen my lower back grow like a mofo after going heavier and heavier.
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    Originally Posted by AA43560 View Post
    yes i dont deadlift because it doesnt say i deadlift 480 lbs in my sig or anything you retarded kunt
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    Deadlifting is so money.... and I don't even lift.
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    Deadlifting is so money.... and I don't even lift.
    you gon be the next ronnie coleman if you don't lift
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    Deadlift is my favorite who caress about numbers and since starting deadlifting my back has progressed well
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    I have to agree with OP, my back looks about the same whether i deadlift or not.... I had stopped deadlifting a couple of months ago, and just started doing SLD with a regular deadlift day once every 4 weeks... If you have semi good strength genetics you can pull 400-500 without looking like you lift... SRS

    A lot of people will develope super thick backs from deadlifting, so you have to find out what works for you,. IF you are deadlifting 5 plates, and you dont have a beastly back, you have to reconsider your training (if bodybuilding is your goal)

    IMO, the one lift that measures strength to jacked fibra ratio is the shoulder press... Never seen a skinny guy throw 100+DB and 225+ BB....
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    they are basically a must if you want to get really strong.

    i always hated them though. I still do them, but damn they suck ass. People always bitch about squats but deads are a bitch. lol
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    Originally Posted by AA43560 View Post
    yes i dont deadlift because it doesnt say i deadlift 480 lbs in my sig or anything you retarded kunt
    Calm down bro.....clearly Irl I would be no match for you and your clever misspelling of the word C U N T so as to avoid he censor, holy crap dude how the f*ck did you ever become so clever????? anyway i don't really care what you do......good luck with your fitness goals.
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    Originally Posted by Bigjay10.0 View Post
    Calm down bro.....clearly Irl I would be no match for you and your clever misspelling of the word C U N T so as to avoid he censor, holy crap dude how the f*ck did you ever become so clever????? anyway i don't really care what you do......good luck with your fitness goals.
    Its all cool just make sure your taking your multis and lifting heavy brah
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    BRB many people in this thread not realizing that the deadlift (and it's variations) improve your squat tremendously! I deadlift heavy so I can Squat Heavy. My Squat improves much faster when I include Deadlifts in my program / thread
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    Originally Posted by AA43560 View Post
    The whole time ive been lifting, ive been validating my success and "progress" with my deadlift numbers. I always felt like a beast deadlifting especially since its my strongest lift and i can actually lift a decent amount. Whenever I felt down about the way my body looks or my strength, i always looked back and said "What am i thinking? Look how much i deadlift!"


    But now that i think about it, theres nothing really impressive about a heavy deadlift.


    A LOT of people deadlift a LOT of weight and are skinny as a rail. I honestly think it is the only main lift that isnt as dependent on "muscle". All it is is technique, leverages, and having the right amount of rage on deadlift day.

    There are heavy deadlifters that dont even look like they lift with 13 inch arms (like my friend and me lol). All this time ive been validating my "success" with deadlifts but serously, thats like the WORST lift to judge a persons "beastness" by.


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    That might be the problem, you're just too focused on the numbers part of it. Just my guess, though.

    I can't imagine not deadlifting...but I probably haven't lifted as long as most of you.
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    I kind of agree OP. I get the most back development from pullups and rows. I do deadlifts because it is a fun exercise and it strengthens the core/lower back which helps with my squat.

    Having terrible, i mean terrible, deadlift leverages and deadlifting in the low 400's has made my back beastly. (pic from last july)
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    Well if your goal is purely bodybuilding, lifting numbers are far from being the best indicators of your progress. I see lots of huge guys lifting less than the 150 lb kids running around the gym. Its all about mind muscle connection, maximizing time under tension and feeling the stretch.

    My physique improved dramatically when I dropped the weight on all my lifts and REALLY focused on making the lift as hard for myself as possible Every single muscle started developing faster and I was busting through plateaus.. Often this actually means NOT using perfect form and cutting back on ROM to increase time under tension and to squeeze out a few extra reps/go past failure. These days, you will barely ever catch me rowing more than 225, benching 275 or OHPing 185.

    Once you reach a certain point of swoleness, you stop caring about what the skinny kids think about the amount of weight you lift and don't lift to impress people. Ofcourse, you will still have to go decently heavy (6-12 rep range). Just not so heavy that you're just mindlessly moving the weight without "feeling" it in the right muscles. You have to consciously make it as HARD as possible for your body to move the weight, not easier. Trust me, try it and it will make all the difference in your physique.




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    Too many people have the mentality that "If you do this exercise then this muscle will grow."

    It's not like that with Deads because it uses so many different muscles. Deads are ALL about strength.
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    yeah deadlifts are fuking pointless













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    Originally Posted by Liangtastic View Post



    Regardless, I still love deads. The skinny kids who can go heavy tend to have abnormally long arms/short torsos. I've also seen skinny-ass people put up decent numbers on the bench, but everyone and their grandma in America equates that lift to full-body strength (first thing you get asked by random non-lifters is "how much do you bench?") But for averagely built people, like myself, I think that it is pretty impressive to have strong deadlift numbers. I've seen my lower back grow like a mofo after going heavier and heavier.
    that's not skinny as a rail.
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    Originally Posted by Cyborg009 View Post
    I agree OP, I started dead-lifting a while back and within a month or two I got to 400 DL and thought I was the shiit.

    I don't really give a crap about DLing and more, I ain't a power-lifter, So I won't try to push it.
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    deads have made my cleans go up, and help my squat.

    i agree that skinny people can do them well, but lettuce be reality, i'm not gonna stop doing them cause some kid 30 pounds lighter than me can pull the same weight.
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    If you can pull 500 pounds almost, you prob. are a beast , and everyone stares at you while you lift some heavy ass weight. And ain't nobody wanna do dat.
    this. unless you go to a pl gym if you do deadlifts you are kinda sideshow to regular attendees
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    Originally Posted by AA43560 View Post
    The whole time ive been lifting, ive been validating my success and "progress" with my deadlift numbers. I always felt like a beast deadlifting especially since its my strongest lift and i can actually lift a decent amount. Whenever I felt down about the way my body looks or my strength, i always looked back and said "What am i thinking? Look how much i deadlift!"


    But now that i think about it, theres nothing really impressive about a heavy deadlift.


    A LOT of people deadlift a LOT of weight and are skinny as a rail. I honestly think it is the only main lift that isnt as dependent on "muscle". All it is is technique, leverages, and having the right amount of rage on deadlift day.

    There are heavy deadlifters that dont even look like they lift with 13 inch arms (like my friend and me lol). All this time ive been validating my "success" with deadlifts but serously, thats like the WORST lift to judge a persons "beastness" by.


    /pessimism
    I will be happy when I hit 320X20. My previous best was 315X17 but my gym has 50 pound bars now. In any event, deadlift was never my strength so if I hit that number I would be quite pleased. I still think the weight that you can deadlift means something, even if it doesn't mean everything. I have lost some strength since my previous best though...

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    If Zyzz taught me one thing it is strength doesn't matter....its all about aesthetics....
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    Yes for some people it is easier to deadlift due to natural leverage, but you can argue the same thing for any other major lift. Some guys can compete with me on squats and are 20-30lbs lighter than me simply because they have a longer torso than me and shorter legs, and for damn sure it develops their legs.

    I contribute a lot of my back mass to deadlifts, not to mention glute and hams. The deadlift utilizes more muscles than any other lift, short of olympic lifts. It's not necessary to grow with sure, but I love it.

    Granted I'm bias because I'm good at it. Honestly getting to 495 to 525 took me a few months of serious training for it. The first time I did that was me breaking my max in roughly 2 years. Yea 480 is impressive but you will reach a certain point with the deadlift where it's difficult.
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    Originally Posted by AA43560 View Post
    The whole time ive been lifting, ive been validating my success and "progress" with my deadlift numbers. I always felt like a beast deadlifting especially since its my strongest lift and i can actually lift a decent amount. Whenever I felt down about the way my body looks or my strength, i always looked back and said "What am i thinking? Look how much i deadlift!"


    But now that i think about it, theres nothing really impressive about a heavy deadlift.


    A LOT of people deadlift a LOT of weight and are skinny as a rail. I honestly think it is the only main lift that isnt as dependent on "muscle". All it is is technique, leverages, and having the right amount of rage on deadlift day.

    There are heavy deadlifters that dont even look like they lift with 13 inch arms (like my friend and me lol). All this time ive been validating my "success" with deadlifts but serously, thats like the WORST lift to judge a persons "beastness" by.


    /pessimism
    im so glad a miscer has said this. even casey butt says the exact same thing. gjdm.
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    Originally Posted by malcore1991 View Post
    yeah deadlifts are fuking pointless













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    True, deadlift is the one lift (of the 3) that caters to smaller lifters. That being said, it don't matter how many crossfitters or 180 lbers (no hate OP...it just seems you are comparing to a lot of people of average size) can pull 500...if you're pulling 800 lbs you're F-in strong, probably hyooooge, and getting bertstares (the good kind)...inb4 tom martin.
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