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02-09-2011, 08:53 PM #91
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02-09-2011, 08:56 PM #93
Regardless, I still love deads. The skinny kids who can go heavy tend to have abnormally long arms/short torsos. I've also seen skinny-ass people put up decent numbers on the bench, but everyone and their grandma in America equates that lift to full-body strength (first thing you get asked by random non-lifters is "how much do you bench?") But for averagely built people, like myself, I think that it is pretty impressive to have strong deadlift numbers. I've seen my lower back grow like a mofo after going heavier and heavier.Weighted Dip Lover (125 lbs strapped 4X)
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02-09-2011, 08:57 PM #94
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02-09-2011, 09:01 PM #97
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02-09-2011, 09:01 PM #98
I have to agree with OP, my back looks about the same whether i deadlift or not.... I had stopped deadlifting a couple of months ago, and just started doing SLD with a regular deadlift day once every 4 weeks... If you have semi good strength genetics you can pull 400-500 without looking like you lift... SRS
A lot of people will develope super thick backs from deadlifting, so you have to find out what works for you,. IF you are deadlifting 5 plates, and you dont have a beastly back, you have to reconsider your training (if bodybuilding is your goal)
IMO, the one lift that measures strength to jacked fibra ratio is the shoulder press... Never seen a skinny guy throw 100+DB and 225+ BB....R.I.P. ssj4veggeto1008
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02-09-2011, 09:02 PM #99
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02-09-2011, 09:03 PM #100
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Calm down bro.....clearly Irl I would be no match for you and your clever misspelling of the word C U N T so as to avoid he censor, holy crap dude how the f*ck did you ever become so clever????? anyway i don't really care what you do......good luck with your fitness goals.
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02-09-2011, 09:05 PM #101
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02-09-2011, 09:09 PM #102
BRB many people in this thread not realizing that the deadlift (and it's variations) improve your squat tremendously! I deadlift heavy so I can Squat Heavy. My Squat improves much faster when I include Deadlifts in my program / thread
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02-09-2011, 09:11 PM #103
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02-09-2011, 09:14 PM #104
I kind of agree OP. I get the most back development from pullups and rows. I do deadlifts because it is a fun exercise and it strengthens the core/lower back which helps with my squat.
Having terrible, i mean terrible, deadlift leverages and deadlifting in the low 400's has made my back beastly. (pic from last july)
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02-09-2011, 09:16 PM #105
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Well if your goal is purely bodybuilding, lifting numbers are far from being the best indicators of your progress. I see lots of huge guys lifting less than the 150 lb kids running around the gym. Its all about mind muscle connection, maximizing time under tension and feeling the stretch.
My physique improved dramatically when I dropped the weight on all my lifts and REALLY focused on making the lift as hard for myself as possible Every single muscle started developing faster and I was busting through plateaus.. Often this actually means NOT using perfect form and cutting back on ROM to increase time under tension and to squeeze out a few extra reps/go past failure. These days, you will barely ever catch me rowing more than 225, benching 275 or OHPing 185.
Once you reach a certain point of swoleness, you stop caring about what the skinny kids think about the amount of weight you lift and don't lift to impress people. Ofcourse, you will still have to go decently heavy (6-12 rep range). Just not so heavy that you're just mindlessly moving the weight without "feeling" it in the right muscles. You have to consciously make it as HARD as possible for your body to move the weight, not easier. Trust me, try it and it will make all the difference in your physique.
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02-09-2011, 09:18 PM #106
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02-09-2011, 11:15 PM #113
deads have made my cleans go up, and help my squat.
i agree that skinny people can do them well, but lettuce be reality, i'm not gonna stop doing them cause some kid 30 pounds lighter than me can pull the same weight.New Jersey: 201
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02-09-2011, 11:17 PM #114
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02-09-2011, 11:20 PM #115
I will be happy when I hit 320X20. My previous best was 315X17 but my gym has 50 pound bars now. In any event, deadlift was never my strength so if I hit that number I would be quite pleased. I still think the weight that you can deadlift means something, even if it doesn't mean everything. I have lost some strength since my previous best though...
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02-09-2011, 11:22 PM #116
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02-09-2011, 11:27 PM #117
Yes for some people it is easier to deadlift due to natural leverage, but you can argue the same thing for any other major lift. Some guys can compete with me on squats and are 20-30lbs lighter than me simply because they have a longer torso than me and shorter legs, and for damn sure it develops their legs.
I contribute a lot of my back mass to deadlifts, not to mention glute and hams. The deadlift utilizes more muscles than any other lift, short of olympic lifts. It's not necessary to grow with sure, but I love it.
Granted I'm bias because I'm good at it. Honestly getting to 495 to 525 took me a few months of serious training for it. The first time I did that was me breaking my max in roughly 2 years. Yea 480 is impressive but you will reach a certain point with the deadlift where it's difficult.A hit was sent, from the President, to raid your residence /
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02-09-2011, 11:29 PM #118
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02-09-2011, 11:32 PM #120
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Lettuce be reality...who wouldn't buy underwear KK is selling though?
True, deadlift is the one lift (of the 3) that caters to smaller lifters. That being said, it don't matter how many crossfitters or 180 lbers (no hate OP...it just seems you are comparing to a lot of people of average size) can pull 500...if you're pulling 800 lbs you're F-in strong, probably hyooooge, and getting bertstares (the good kind)...inb4 tom martin.Best Meet Lifts:
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