Humorous but serious post: Trying out Russian Bear gainer. Still using my other protein for post-WO also. I've been up to 4000-5000 cals a day starting Friday with lots of meat and protein. Lifting hard too.
The can says use 5 (huge) scoops in a gallon of milk and drink throughout the day. I'm using 2 scoops a day, still good for an extra 1500-2000 extra cals after I add some oats, PB, other additives. I think the 5 scoops in one day would make me puke, plus I do not need 300+g of protein in a day!
So far after 2 full days on it, lost 0.8 lb. Feels bad men.
If I can put on just 5 pounds from this tub, it would be a huge success...as long as I don't burn it back off in a week.
For about a month I've been trying to eat as much food as possible and I gained back 2 previously-lost pounds. Getting drastic now.
I'm 33, I should not have this much trouble gaining still.
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Thread: The Journey of the Skinnies
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06-25-2012, 07:46 AM #2881
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06-25-2012, 10:32 AM #2882
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06-25-2012, 11:50 AM #2883
Today's lunch:
*10 slices of Cici's pizza (crap but it was free)
*approx 1000-calorie shake made with vanilla Russian Bear Gainer, ground oats, cinnamon, packet of hot chocolate and 20 oz of 1% milk.
*about 48 oz of water...trying to settle that stomach down.
Breakfast was:
*Bowl of Cheerios with extra cinnamon added.
*Whole wheat toast with Nutella
*3 cups of black coffee
*2 powdered sugar mini doughnuts
Definitely hitting the weights hard this evening. Will have another Bear shake before bed, plus my postworkout with whey.
Am I doing this right?
Been pushing for between 4-5000 cals a day since Friday. I'm sick of being skinny. My muscles have been getting bigger and very defined but my weight has been the same since I was in high school and I'm 33 now.
Been doubling up at dinner time. Wife made stuffed peppers last night, I ate an extra one. I grilled burgers, ate 2 with fries. She made lasanga...I ate 5 slices in one meal.
Seems like just eating and lifting hard has never worked for me. SO, I'm starting to do crazy things, like Soviet Commie Shakes.
Thinking about asking my family doctor if there's something wrong with me...thyroid or something.
edit: weighed myself after dinner, gained a net of 2.5 lbs in 2 days on the Bear after initially losing 1...progress!Last edited by bustermac; 06-26-2012 at 06:44 AM.
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06-27-2012, 05:13 AM #2884
Disgusting belly fat is disgusting!
Met 3 of my friends after an year and all of em agree that I have a skinny fat gut now. Of course I have gained overall mass but the gut is where it shows the most. It is getting to a situation where the **** is hitting the roof
Any of you skinny turned normal folks have dealt with this successfully? I am currently running SS without any isolation exercises and struggling to make progress on the lifts (though my lifts suck balls). Have never tried any ab exercises or cardio so far - have just gone with the compounds with the understanding that presses hit my abs harder than most other exercises
My diet has been ****ty I agree - pure veggie with very less protein intake. Barring the 1/4 gallon milk, couple of eggs and the occasional soy, don't think any of the other things I eat give me a decent amount of protein. Will try getting in more protein through a Whey supp (I finally think it's time to look at supps) and see how this goes over the next 30-45 days. At ~160lbs the last thing I wanna do is cut and lose 10lbs
EDIT: I see visible muscle gains all over the body (expect arms) so this hasn't been a "fail bulk". It's just that the gut is the thing that seems to stand out most :|Last edited by orca23554; 06-27-2012 at 05:20 AM.
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06-27-2012, 08:57 PM #2885
So I think I need help deciding on which workout I should choose. Earlier, I posted a workout that I've been following for a little over half a year. Since then, I modified it after doing some research and listening to you guys (mostly about cutting out cardio and adding deadlifts/presses).
Workout 1
DB Bench
DB Press
Dips
Rows/Chins
Workout 2
Squats
Deadlift
Calf Raise
Abs
Week 1
Mon - workout 1
Wed - workout 2
Fri - workout 1
Week 2
Mon - workout 2
Wed - workout 1
Fri - workout 2
Day 1 would focus more on upper body and day 2 for lower.
But recently, I also started reading about SS, and I'm wondering if that would work as well. I've been jumping back and forth and I can't make up my mind whether I should do the modified workout or SS.
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06-28-2012, 04:35 AM #2886
You're workout looks decent, so props to that. I would do SS, just because it is a proven workout, thats worked for many (including myself). the only flaw i see is DB press right after DB bench might leave you gassed and not get the most out of your shoulders. I would go with SS
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06-28-2012, 04:37 AM #2887
some pics to judge bulk before (before and after) would help us evaluate your bulk (no homo). i would throw in some of the accessory excersises in SS. If ur putting on too much fat, back of calories a bit, maybe 200 or so. Just test and see what happens for a week or two.
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06-28-2012, 07:50 AM #2888
Ok, never thought I'd put up pics on a forum but WTH, here we go -
Some before pics (none shirtless, but you can see what a pathetic sight I was)
Some after pics (all relaxed with no attempt made to pose)
Last pic with me pushing out belly to emphasize what my belly looks like when I am full/have a bloat
EDIT: Pics fixed, imageshack doesn't work any more apparentlyLast edited by orca23554; 06-28-2012 at 08:20 AM.
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06-28-2012, 11:00 AM #2889
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06-29-2012, 06:37 PM #2890
Yeah, you're right with your self evaluation. You put on some muscle, but also got a bit chubby. Its really hard (myself included) when the majority of fat goes straight to your gut. I know that pain bro. You said ur doing SS- whats your progression been like? Before and after lift stats? Are you still making progress? something is off here. Just trying to help, not trying to offend. You still look better than most!
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06-29-2012, 09:16 PM #2891
Last 2 months actually have been a bit off when it comes to lifting - job kept me busy and I had to take a break. Protein intake hasn't been up to the mark since Day 1 - actually wanted to see how much progress I could make without supps. Added a Whey supp only yesterday, so the diet is responsible for most of the chubby gains for a veggie like me. Moreover looks like I've packed on most of the belly fat during the past 2 months where I wasn't doing as much lifting but the cals intake was steady
Here's what I am gonna do for the next 3 months -
1) Gonna keep the cal intake steady for a month and then increase there on - in the meanwhile the whey supp thrown in should ensure I get 40-50g more protein per day compared to what it was all these days
2) Have a 10K mini run coming up in Sep which I am gonna sign up for which means I start off doing cardio - this should help cut some of the belly fat hopefully in combination with point 1 above
3) Since I am not making the poundage progress on SS it's about time I stopped screwing around and changed something. Starting off on a standard 3 day split (working out 3 days a week fits my schedule best)
Day 1 - Back/Arms - Deadlift, Pendlay Rows, Barbell Curls, Some wrist work, Chins
Day 2 - Chest/Triceps - Flat barbell bench, Incline barbell bench, Incline DB Fly, Tricep Extensions
Day 3 - Legs/Abs/Delts - Full barbell back Squats, Calf raises, Barbell OHP, Delt work (Front raises OR Lateral raises), Some Ab work
3 sets in the 6-8 reps range for compounds, 8-10 reps on isolations
Will do cardio/sprinting for 2 days a week till I finish the run and then cut down to 1 day per week
I am nowhere close to the training experience needed to graduate to a split but I intend to run SS again after I am done with this for 3 months. Will see how my body reacts to a split, think it's good to try things out to see what works best for me
Comments on the split set up welcome, clubbed Shoulders with Legs since my triceps aren't yet trained enough to be able to handle volume from both bench and OHP on the same day. There will be a 2 day gap between Day 2 and 3 in the split above. Core exercises still make up the bulk of the work with some isolations thrown in. Max 5 exercises in one session so don't think this will be too much volume. I can't see any glaring screw ups with this plan - however if you spot anything do feel free to flame me
Appreciate the feedback folks* Skinny to non skinny transformation crew * - I am gonna effin nail this
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07-01-2012, 01:54 PM #2892
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07-01-2012, 08:46 PM #2893
Hey guys, I just signed up after reading through the forums for a while. Figured I would post on here since I definitely fit under the skinny category. Hopefully being on here will help me motivate myself and stick to putting on weight and going to the gym. Seen some amazing transformations on here and I hope I'll have a similar experience!
The main problem for me is eating enough. I'm either always in class or working and don't really think about eating until I'm actually hungry. Any suggestions for how to set up my meals and what specifically to eat? Also, does anyone have tips on getting motivated to go to the gym in general and getting over the sort of anxiety a skinny guy can get when there are all these huge guys there? I go to a school with a lot of athletes so it's pretty intimidating going to the gym...especially the weights area. Would it be better to go early in the morning to avoid people?
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07-02-2012, 03:35 AM #2894
For the next 30 days I am gonna eat around maintenance + 200 cals - the change in diet being I am gonna up the protein whilst cleaning up the diet (get off fatty stuff and keep a check on excess carbs). Since I am gonna be throwing in some regular cardio to prep for the 10K run, I am keen to see if my flab levels will change for the better. I am not exactly cutting here but trying to see how my body reacts to the additional protein boost and the regular cardio. Reason I am changing my lifting routine is that I am not able to do justice to the poundage progression that SS demands and need to get on to something that I can cope with
I will be back to bulking mode after 30-45 days but with a better diet that should pack on more muscle and hopefully keep the fat gains in check here on. I figure the current levels of fat is something I can live with for some time (as long as I don't get any more chubbier!) and should continue to bulk till I hit my target BW of 170lbs. There on I would do a mini cut and evaluate how I should proceed
Best thing about the journey so far has been that I am clearly in the middle of a life style change for the better. I now have a new hobby which I am keen pursue for a long time* Skinny to non skinny transformation crew * - I am gonna effin nail this
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07-02-2012, 11:36 AM #2895
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Whenever i cook, i cook more for lunch for the next day, and breakfast is always stuff i keep at work. Heres what a typical meal plan for me looks like through the day.
Wake up have coffee
get to work, protein shake in 2% milk + 100g oats or 2 english muffins
1cup rice with 10oz chicken breasts
peanut butter and toast with 2 cups milk snack around 4 oclock before gym at 6
gym from 6 to 7:30ish, post workout 2 scoops ON whey in water
cook either chicken breasts, ground beef, or tuna for dinner + enough for tomorrows lunch
Peanut butter toast and milk
ZMA and 8+ hours sleep
repeat
dont worry about the big guys in the gym. they dont care what you look like, honestly. They only care what they look like, and maybe in their head they are saying "damn i used to look like that". sh*t most of the times the biggest guys in the gym are the ones most willing to give advice and motivation.
The experienced guys in the gym like myself just want to see young guys doing it right. so if you go in the gym and all u do is curls and bench press u will get sh*t for doing it wrong. If u go in and try to lift heavy weight u cant manage u will get laughed at.
If you dont give 2 fuks about what people think, you do your routine, work on form and weight every set, and give 100%, you will actually get respect from the people u think are laughing at you.Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (NSCA)
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07-02-2012, 11:16 PM #2896
Just wanted to post a quick update in here! It's been a while since I've sat down and read through this, but a lot of things on this site have helped me out!! I just competed in my first ever competition recently, which has been a long term goal of mine. I just wanted to encourage others in here that you can do whatever you set your mind to as long as you set goals, stay diligent, and keep persevering through all circumstances. I have transformed from 155 lbs skinny minny to a 190 lb well-rounded person! I contribute a lot of this success to people like those in this forum who constantly give motivation and inspiration to others. Thanks for all of the words of encouragement, and remember that you can do it!!
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07-03-2012, 12:59 AM #2897
Hey all. Brand new to bodybuilding.com, but have been reading for awhile. Wanted to post here. I'm super depressed about how skinny/small I am, and I need any help you guys can offer. I'm 17 years old 5' 5", 115 lbs. I can't stand having to wear XS/S small clothing any longer. I have no idea where to begin on lifting or anything, and my diet isn't bad at all.
Thanks in advance.
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07-03-2012, 12:28 PM #2898
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07-03-2012, 05:28 PM #2899
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read through this thread, you will find post people just like you who have bulked up. Look through and you will find some diets and workouts.
For us ectomorphs (skinnier people) the one thing that is key is rest and diet. Alot of bigger guys can get away with eating what they want (for the most part) and gain alot of muscle and really only diet down when they cut. Us skinnier guys have to have our diet nailed down to gain muscle, yet cutting takes almost no effort.
Id suggest going on livestrong.com and using the "my plate" for calculating calories. Heres mine from last night
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07-04-2012, 04:01 AM #2900
Meh been getting so many problems since I came back home for uni for 3 month untill uni starts again. The house is really damp and gives me a permanent cold making me constantly ill so when I work out I cannot give it my best Then because I lent my parents so much money to help move house so I don't have to be permanently ill I don't have enough for proper nutrition sO decided on half a gallon of milk a day with regular meals. Due to all of these inconsistencies results have slown down alot Although I am now weiging around 150-154 pounds)
Also, what weight should I be targeting?Last edited by sweeney123; 07-04-2012 at 01:07 PM.
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07-05-2012, 04:32 PM #2901
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07-05-2012, 07:35 PM #2902
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07-07-2012, 02:29 AM #2903
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07-10-2012, 01:13 PM #2904
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07-12-2012, 11:56 PM #2905
Been about 2 weeks on the 3 day split, for the first time I feel sore the next day and sometimes for 2 days
Day before was Legs/Shoulders day and my quads, hammies and glutes are really sore from the squatting - never thought a higher rep range would hit the lower body so hard. Started off the split with a bit of a deload since I still lift alone (mostly) and there's no safety mechanism if I fail a rep on exercises like Squat and Bench
Don't know what to make of the soreness, I'll take it as the body's reaction to doing something that it's wasn't used to all these days. Gotten my diet under some control and I get an additional 40-45g from whey protein shakes on a daily basis. BW up 3 lbs after I changed to this split from the 3 day full body routine I was doing (SS). Let's see if I can manage to do keep the fat gains under check this time around* Skinny to non skinny transformation crew * - I am gonna effin nail this
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07-13-2012, 05:37 AM #2906
Subb'd. Started working out 3 years ago, have put on some decent size since then but want more. Diet is where I am personally lacking and can't get over the 200lb mark. Any insight on this or if anyone else has a similar build to me, I'd be very interested to hear how you got past that mark or got to your goal.
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07-13-2012, 01:07 PM #2907
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07-13-2012, 02:36 PM #2908
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- Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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I've been really busy with work for the last half a year and have had absolutely no time (nor motivation) to go to the gym.
So I packed on weight instead. I went from 125lbs to 145lbs and I'd say I've entered skinny fat category at 5"7 and my emerging moobs :P.
Today, I'll be starting to go back to the gym doing MAX-OT. We'll see how it goes.
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07-13-2012, 06:07 PM #2909
Well I don't like being the new guy but here it goes. I also am skinny and trying to gain. I am at 6' and 142lb. I am 22. I try to eat as much as possible but it just doesnt always work. I also work graveyard shift from 11 to 8. I got some whey protein and a pwo. I don't have a gym memmbership. What can I so to get the ball rolling? I have started cardio to time some of my beer gut but what can I invest in for weight training? Is my best bet a gym membership? Should I workout before work, after or when I wake up?
And help would be great!
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07-14-2012, 11:05 AM #2910
A gym membership does not have to be mandatory, but if you are planning on building as much muscle mass as possible, it would probably be a good idea. I would recommend Anytime Fitness, especially with your schedule. It would make it easy to work a fitness regimen into your schedule. As far as the workout regimen itself, it sounds like you have a fairly fast metabolism, which means that you won't have to concentrate on cardio as much as someone like me who has a slow metabolism. If you really want to burn as much fat as possible, I would do your cardio as soon as you wake up. You can do your weight training any other time during the day. Personally, I don't really like lifting in the morning. I usually do it in the afternoon or after dinner. Perhaps, for you, do your cardio before work and then lift after. While you are at work, you will have to try to keep food in your body, eating something about every 3 to 4 hours, and drink plenty of water.
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