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    Originally Posted by nightmare69 View Post
    Your preaching to the choir my friend. I graduated high school weighing 120lbs. I used the excuse my metabolism is super high and I eat a ton and cant gain weight. I track all my cals for a week and found out I was only eating 2200 cals a day. So yeah, you may think you eat alot but try tracking cals and you will be surprised.

    Once I uped my cals to 3-3.2k and started packing on the pounds.

    So once again.....EAT!!!
    yeah no you're absolutely right, what I should've said is I eat alot BUT definitely only breaking even on calories.

    but like I said, hitting some arbitrary number boundary isn't all that important to me anymore
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    Originally Posted by bobjenkins777 View Post
    Lol I gained 4 lbs Woot. Not that I can notice in mirror though. Although washing chest in shower it felt bigger nno homo lol.

    And I have a question for Whiteybird
    How long you been lifting? Loving that 400lbs ssquat! I was at 135 for a while too now I'm up to like 200 hopefully ill get to 400 and beyond eventually of course short term I want 250 but it doesnt count to me one bit if it ain't perfect form and depth. Any advice ? Like road blocks you hit etc thanks
    Watch some EliteFTS.com So You Think You Can Squat? vids. They helped me, a lot.

    I've been lifting for 3 years now. Currently doing the craziest cut I've done, and am sitting right at 200. Just trying to fine tune everything to figure out how my body responds to my diet/training/etc. Its def a struggle, i've hit more roadblocks than most people. But once you start to see change in yourself/strength/from others, you get motivated like nothing else. If I stayed consistant through the 3 years, I'd be a bit bigger. But I'm not worried about it. I went from ~140 to 220 in that time, bench over 330, squat over 450, and deadlift upper 400's. It takes a long time, but you can do it if you get your mind right and absorb everything possible in the knowledge department.

    Keep in mind, prior to this 3 years, i've never touched a weight other then what I HAD to do in gym class in HS.
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    Originally Posted by Whiteybird View Post
    Watch some EliteFTS.com So You Think You Can Squat? vids. They helped me, a lot.

    I've been lifting for 3 years now. Currently doing the craziest cut I've done, and am sitting right at 200. Just trying to fine tune everything to figure out how my body responds to my diet/training/etc. Its def a struggle, i've hit more roadblocks than most people. But once you start to see change in yourself/strength/from others, you get motivated like nothing else. If I stayed consistant through the 3 years, I'd be a bit bigger. But I'm not worried about it. I went from ~140 to 220 in that time, bench over 330, squat over 450, and deadlift upper 400's. It takes a long time, but you can do it if you get your mind right and absorb everything possible in the knowledge department.

    Keep in mind, prior to this 3 years, i've never touched a weight other then what I HAD to do in gym class in HS.
    Cool thanks! I watch those so you think you can squat videos they are great!
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    Back in on this thread.

    Injured back, 3 months off everything. I ate like ****, drank so much alcohol and I feel like ****.

    2 more days of rest then I'm right to hit the gym again.
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    Originally Posted by brian1570 View Post
    nah i wouldn't HIIT just yet. get good at dieting and lifting first. then work in some slight cardio. then make adjustments to ur diet accordingly. then more cardio, adjust diet, and so on and so on. if you just jump straight into HIIT you run the risk of dropping weight like a rock.

    for now just worry about muscle/strength and ignore body fat.
    i'll do that! thanks mate
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    Originally Posted by ilovejunkfood View Post
    Back in on this thread.

    Injured back, 3 months off everything. I ate like ****, drank so much alcohol and I feel like ****.

    2 more days of rest then I'm right to hit the gym again.
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    Originally Posted by nightmare69 View Post
    Your preaching to the choir my friend. I graduated high school weighing 120lbs. I used the excuse my metabolism is super high and I eat a ton and cant gain weight. I track all my cals for a week and found out I was only eating 2200 cals a day. So yeah, you may think you eat alot but try tracking cals and you will be surprised.

    Once I uped my cals to 3-3.2k and started packing on the pounds.

    So once again.....EAT!!!
    True story. I was also the guy who said to everyone "hey, do you even know how much I eat everyday?!".. Then counted the calories.. and BAM! Way too low.
    When I started controling it, the weight is coming up.
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    Originally Posted by Eriatarka View Post
    True story. I was also the guy who said to everyone "hey, do you even know how much I eat everyday?!".. Then counted the calories.. and BAM! Way too low.
    When I started controling it, the weight is coming up.
    Me too I was probably eating 1000 under maintenence until I started counting now I'm up 500 :-)
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    Originally Posted by wtsall View Post
    yay lol.

    I just hope i find someone who is a more extreme case than me, someone same height or taller and same starting weight or less... that way I'll know that its possible!
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    Originally Posted by bobjenkins777 View Post
    Me too I was probably eating 1000 under maintenence until I started counting now I'm up 500 :-)
    Same here. I realized I think I have to stop "assuming" and start "counting", then boom, I'm getting results!
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    Hit legs pretty hard today, really hoping I will see some noob gains.
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    For those of you having trouble hitting your macros and calories that have just now started counting them, have any of you bought a food scale yet? I find them very helpful to make sure I'm getting enough protein. What I thought was 4oz was actually only like 2-3oz, thus my protein intake was a lot lower than what I was writing down. You can find them at pretty much every store including Wal-Mart, K-mart, grocery stores, etc. I advise buying one to be that much MORE accurate in your macro counting. Keep it up!
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    Originally Posted by NoFive0 View Post
    Hit legs pretty hard today, really hoping I will see some noob gains.
    I wanted my legs to grow...Now I have stretch marks on both quads haha. Like the result, not the marks ha. Oh well, it happens to the best of us. Grew 2 1/2 inches in about 3 1/2 months. Granted, it's not all muscle but they are def. more defined than ever! Keep squating and I found heavy ass leg extensions kill the quads too. I normally do major drop sets on those.
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    Originally Posted by caustin1986 View Post
    I wanted my legs to grow...Now I have stretch marks on both quads haha. Like the result, not the marks ha. Oh well, it happens to the best of us. Grew 2 1/2 inches in about 3 1/2 months. Granted, it's not all muscle but they are def. more defined than ever! Keep squating and I found heavy ass leg extensions kill the quads too. I normally do major drop sets on those.
    Yeah the leg extensions suck, lol.
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    Originally Posted by NoFive0 View Post
    Yeah the leg extensions suck, lol.
    Suck as in kill the quads or suck as in you dont like them lol.
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    Suck as in kill the quads or suck as in you dont like them lol.
    Both, haha. They work though.
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    While were talking about leg extensions which do burn bad lol (and I'm only doing like 120 ) does anyone have a good isolation exercise for hamstrings? Ham string curl doesn't seem to work for me ... thanks


    And the food scales a great idea. I too find myself guessing how much ground beef was on those 4 tacos I ate. :-) I recently took the time to measure the peanut butter I was eating and damn. I really was under estimating before. I marked down 2 tablespoons and it was like half a cup..........
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    Originally Posted by bobjenkins777 View Post
    While were talking about leg extensions which do burn bad lol (and I'm only doing like 120 ) does anyone have a good isolation exercise for hamstrings? Ham string curl doesn't seem to work for me ... thanks


    And the food scales a great idea. I too find myself guessing how much ground beef was on those 4 tacos I ate. :-) I recently took the time to measure the peanut butter I was eating and damn. I really was under estimating before. I marked down 2 tablespoons and it was like half a cup..........
    Hmmm for hamstrings, the curl works wonders for me. It only works when the bar that is supported on your ankles doesn't roll all the way up your calves when doing the lift. Other than that, I'm not sure and I don't do any other isolation exercise for ham's. Squats hit them too.

    Yeah the scale is wonders lol. When it comes to peanut butter in my gainer shakes I over compensate. At least I know I'm hitting my macros or going above by doing that lol. I go through a jar every week or so.
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    Both, haha. They work though.
    Yeah it's great lol...Especially trying to walk normal right after a heavy set.
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    Originally Posted by caustin1986 View Post
    Hmmm for hamstrings, the curl works wonders for me. It only works when the bar that is supported on your ankles doesn't roll all the way up your calves when doing the lift. Other than that, I'm not sure and I don't do any other isolation exercise for ham's. Squats hit them too.

    Yeah the scale is wonders lol. When it comes to peanut butter in my gainer shakes I over compensate. At least I know I'm hitting my macros or going above by doing that lol. I go through a jar every week or so.
    If you have a Sams or Costco you can buy your PB cheap 6lbs at a time.
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    Originally Posted by nightmare69 View Post
    If you have a Sams or Costco you can buy your PB cheap 6lbs at a time.
    I get it cheaper from the Commissary here on base. Tax free too!
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    Originally Posted by bobjenkins777 View Post
    While were talking about leg extensions which do burn bad lol (and I'm only doing like 120 ) does anyone have a good isolation exercise for hamstrings? Ham string curl doesn't seem to work for me ... thanks

    Glute/Ham raises
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    Leg curls
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    Originally Posted by Whiteybird View Post
    Glute/Ham raises
    Laying Leg curls
    reverse hack squats
    Leg curls
    BB romanian deads
    DB romanian deads

    There are plenty of moves for hams. Don't neglect them.
    Oh yeah there's also all these ^^^ LOL can't believe I only thought of Leg curls haha.
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    Thanks guys! The exercises I do that actually hit hams are ham curl (one leg at a time, which always seems awkward) squat and Romanian deadlift. Maybe I just don't notice cause my quads and lower back is usually what's killing me. I really need to measure my legs to see if they growing

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    Soo ok am I doin everything right Im at 134 an I'm 511 and just started the gym again few months back also couple weeks ago I bought some enormass to help I eat ever three hours and drink 3 shakes a day and in the last few weeks...nothing and I'm mad I use to eat like 2200 cals a day and now up to almost 4 or 5k some days even more with junk food but I'm losing hope...the only time I actually gained weight was on creatine but I know that's just water weight :/ help! I am tempted to do creatine again but I don't wanna deal with acne pills at the same time too and I wanna do it when I plateu so what am I doin wrong?? I aallmooast got bench up to 135 but I know that's just me shooting back up from me not working out from b4...advice? I hate being skinny
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    Originally Posted by SSGBigd28 View Post
    Soo ok am I doin everything right Im at 134 an I'm 511 and just started the gym again few months back also couple weeks ago I bought some enormass to help I eat ever three hours and drink 3 shakes a day and in the last few weeks...nothing and I'm mad I use to eat like 2200 cals a day and now up to almost 4 or 5k some days even more with junk food but I'm losing hope...the only time I actually gained weight was on creatine but I know that's just water weight :/ help! I am tempted to do creatine again but I don't wanna deal with acne pills at the same time too and I wanna do it when I plateu so what am I doin wrong?? I aallmooast got bench up to 135 but I know that's just me shooting back up from me not working out from b4...advice? I hate being skinny
    Your diet isn't in check. And there's no way possible that you eat 4-5k cals a day and are not gaining weight...What is your diet like? Is it consistent? What's your workout split?
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    Originally Posted by SSGBigd28 View Post
    Soo ok am I doin everything right Im at 134 an I'm 511 and just started the gym again few months back also couple weeks ago I bought some enormass to help I eat ever three hours and drink 3 shakes a day and in the last few weeks...nothing and I'm mad I use to eat like 2200 cals a day and now up to almost 4 or 5k some days even more with junk food but I'm losing hope...the only time I actually gained weight was on creatine but I know that's just water weight :/ help! I am tempted to do creatine again but I don't wanna deal with acne pills at the same time too and I wanna do it when I plateu so what am I doin wrong?? I aallmooast got bench up to 135 but I know that's just me shooting back up from me not working out from b4...advice? I hate being skinny
    3 weight gainer shakes is to much bro, you will gain weight but it will be fat. Find out what your maintenance cals are then eat 500 cals over that. Your gains will be slow but you will keep alot of unwanted fat off.

    As far as lifting...the big 3 should be in your routine.

    squat
    deadlift
    bench press

    some more good exercises

    bent over rows
    military press
    pull ups
    dips
    power cleans

    If you do those compound lifts with good weight and form and eat a good diet you WILL grow.

    Lift heavy, eat clean, and be patient.
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    Well idk my scale might be lying
    Then i take a shake in the morning after my workout and one b4 bed like it says and then maybe if I'm craving one or if I'm busy nd miss a meal so not too often but in the afternoon. I workout monday to Thursday
    Monday is chest
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    Originally Posted by SSGBigd28 View Post
    Well idk my scale might be lying
    Then i take a shake in the morning after my workout and one b4 bed like it says and then maybe if I'm craving one or if I'm busy nd miss a meal so not too often but in the afternoon. I workout monday to Thursday
    Monday is chest
    Tuesday is arms
    Wednesday is shoulders
    Thursday is chest

    Abs and core I do ever day.
    I'm a really skinny person idk if gaining fat might be a bad thing I tried to measure my fat percent and it shows an error most of the time or just recently it started to work and showed 4% fat which yes I know is horrible
    Why dont you work your back, and legs? What do you SPECIFICALLY eat? I saw on a previous post you said some junk food? Why? Also, why chest twice in 4 days?
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    Originally Posted by caustin1986 View Post
    Why dont you work your back, and legs? What do you SPECIFICALLY eat? I saw on a previous post you said some junk food? Why? Also, why chest twice in 4 days?
    Ohh hahaha sorry typo thursday is legs haha and my back I do when I do shoulders. I do the seated row thing and deltoid flys and stuff. I eat junk food only when I have to not something I crave...like right now I just ate I sat down and had almost 5 sandwiches(didn't finish the 5th :P) with butter spread and allootaa slices of meat I ate 6 servings according to the package and yeah just stuff I make like I buy steaks and I buy all of my food an cook whatever comes to my head so yeah I try nd eat ever three hours and it happens some days not all the time.
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