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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post

    LIFT HEAVY TAKE MULTI IS A COMPLETE JOKE. Lifting heavy doesnt do chit for adding mass. The only time you should lift heavy is for deadlifts and squats. Everything else, should be pure MMC not worrying about weight. You can listen to me now, or waste years figuring it out yourself. Its no wonder kai and phil and jay lift in the 10+ rep range. its not only because they are juiced up.
    I am tending to agree with this. I've seen better mass after I started lifting in 8 rep range with MMC, from the sets of 5 I would initially do while on SS. Squats is the only exercise where I stick to sets of 5 that too because I recently started front squats, intend to keep up the progression till I stall and then hit higher rep ranges. Key thing to note is that my diet was actually better 3-4 months ago than it is today

    Too early to say the same conclusively but I should have an opinion based on personal experience on this 5-6 months from now
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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    LIFT HEAVY TAKE MULTI IS A COMPLETE JOKE. Lifting heavy doesnt do chit for adding mass. The only time you should lift heavy is for deadlifts and squats. Everything else, should be pure MMC not worrying about weight. You can listen to me now, or waste years figuring it out yourself. Its no wonder kai and phil and jay lift in the 10+ rep range. its not only because they are juiced up.
    What if i WANT to lift heavy and take a multi?
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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    hormones dont have anything to do with it brah, post ur before/after pics after ur cut. take measurements too.


    skinny brahs, i want to say one thing to all of you!


    LIFT HEAVY TAKE MULTI IS A COMPLETE JOKE. Lifting heavy doesnt do chit for adding mass. The only time you should lift heavy is for deadlifts and squats. Everything else, should be pure MMC not worrying about weight. You can listen to me now, or waste years figuring it out yourself. Its no wonder kai and phil and jay lift in the 10+ rep range. its not only because they are juiced up.
    Did take before pics and measurements. Will post back with results at the end of my cut.

    Completely agree with you. Arms grew the same in 2 months of doing anything between 8-20 reps as ~6 months on 5-3-1. Can't compare the strength gains, but at the moment I'd rather look like I can bench 2 plates than be able to bench 3 and not look like it.

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    What if i WANT to lift heavy and take a multi?
    Just don't complain you're not growing then.
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    Who is making the rules? Everyone is different, if i stay in the 8 rep range, i don't get much of a work out. I've been doing better in the 5-6 rep range with higher weights. And i feel everything growing...

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    It just depends on your goals. My goals are more strength oriented than size oriented. I don't care how big or small I am, I want my lifts to progress. Which means, lift heavy, eat a ton, sleep a lot, and repeat. Not everyone wants to look strong, some of us want to be strong.
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    Originally Posted by Whyyousoskinny View Post
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    I'm back

    I probably don't know any of you anymore, but I was on this thread when it first got started. I stopped the gym for some stupid reasons (divorce, moving, getting out of the Navy, etc.) I'm back and ready to jump back in the gym. I haven't hit the gym yet though. I'm getting back in the routine of the diet right now. I decided not to count calories every day, just go back to what was working before. 4-6oz of protein with each meal, about a cup to 1 1/2 cups of complex carbs, and veggies like spinach and broccoli with each meal. Eating 5-7 times a day depending on rest days or workout days. 2 of those "meals" are shakes. Every day I'll drink a mass gainer shake, and on the workout days I'll add a post workout shake. Basically the diet looks like this:

    Workout days:

    7 meals

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    the other 2 are a mass shake in the morning and post workout shake.

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    6 meals

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    the 6th is the gainer shake.

    My diet is strictly chicken breast, lean steak, fish, tuna, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, spinach, broccoli, and asparagus. Post workout I'll have a snack with the shake that has a fast carb like a bagel, bread, etc. that restores my glycogen. Right now, I'm 155 and shooting 175 by end of winter. Doing a 3 day split. I'm not new to this but just thought I'd share the beginning of my 2nd journey.
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    Originally Posted by caustin1986 View Post
    I probably don't know any of you anymore, but I was on this thread when it first got started. I stopped the gym for some stupid reasons (divorce, moving, getting out of the Navy, etc.) I'm back and ready to jump back in the gym. I haven't hit the gym yet though. I'm getting back in the routine of the diet right now. I decided not to count calories every day, just go back to what was working before. 4-6oz of protein with each meal, about a cup to 1 1/2 cups of complex carbs, and veggies like spinach and broccoli with each meal. Eating 5-7 times a day depending on rest days or workout days. 2 of those "meals" are shakes. Every day I'll drink a mass gainer shake, and on the workout days I'll add a post workout shake. Basically the diet looks like this:

    Workout days:

    7 meals

    5 out of 7 meals are whole food meals

    the other 2 are a mass shake in the morning and post workout shake.

    Non Workout days:

    6 meals

    5 out of 6 meals are whole food meals

    the 6th is the gainer shake.

    My diet is strictly chicken breast, lean steak, fish, tuna, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, spinach, broccoli, and asparagus. Post workout I'll have a snack with the shake that has a fast carb like a bagel, bread, etc. that restores my glycogen. Right now, I'm 155 and shooting 175 by end of winter. Doing a 3 day split. I'm not new to this but just thought I'd share the beginning of my 2nd journey.
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    Good workout today. Tried front squats for the 2nd time ever. 135x5, 185x5, 205 1x2. Deloaded my deadlifts recently and pulled 325 2x5. Felt great. Hopefully increasing my sets to 3x5 once a week will keep my gains going.

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    Originally Posted by HoneyBadger300 View Post
    Good workout today. Tried front squats for the 2nd time ever. 135x5, 185x5, 205 1x2. Deloaded my deadlifts recently and pulled 325 2x5. Felt great. Hopefully increasing my sets to 3x5 once a week will keep my gains going.

    What'd you guys do today?
    Pull workout. No PR's since I'm cutting. Also ran 2km after lifting.
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    Originally Posted by nolonger View Post
    Pull workout. No PR's since I'm cutting. Also ran 2km after lifting.
    Not bad, why are you cutting? Are you still 177 like avi says?

    I'm thinking of switching from Madcow to 5x5 Advanced. Haven't gained much strength after 12 weeks of Madcow, so I'm thinking of changing it up. Advanced has more Squat volume, and 3x5 Deadlifts, so hopefully I'll see some gains again.

    Thoughts? Anyone tried Advanced before?
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    Originally Posted by HoneyBadger300 View Post
    Not bad, why are you cutting? Are you still 177 like avi says?
    Yep, 177 after bulk. I'm at ~15% body fat, it's summer in Brazil. Will go back to bulking in February or so.
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    Originally Posted by nolonger View Post
    Yep, 177 after bulk. I'm at ~15% body fat, it's summer in Brazil. Will go back to bulking in February or so.
    Sounds good I guess. I'm still a skinny brah. Gonna perma bulk until bear mode (so... forever)
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    Originally Posted by HoneyBadger300 View Post
    Sounds good I guess. I'm still a skinny brah. Gonna perma bulk until bear mode (so... forever)
    I'm skinny fat I guess. When I get to 9-10% I'll be able to say I'm skinny.
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    Killed chest today, PR on BW as well. I was kinda plateauing on bench but over the past 30 days my 1RM is up by 10lbs

    BW up by 3-4 lbs since I am almost back into the groove on the diet, I can feel the BW packing into the right areas. Motivations levels up!
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    Originally Posted by orca23554 View Post
    Killed chest today, PR on BW as well. I was kinda plateauing on bench but over the past 30 days my 1RM is up by 10lbs

    BW up by 3-4 lbs since I am almost back into the groove on the diet, I can feel the BW packing into the right areas. Motivations levels up!
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    any of you look in the mirror some days and think "holy **** im still skinny", then on other days look and think "wow, im looking big"?. seriously, i dont know if its me or the mirror, but my body seems to fluctuate like this weekly..
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    Originally Posted by thatswhatshesed View Post
    cot dayum...
    any of you look in the mirror some days and think "holy **** im still skinny", then on other days look and think "wow, im looking big"?. seriously, i dont know if its me or the mirror, but my body seems to fluctuate like this weekly..
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    Originally Posted by thatswhatshesed View Post
    cot dayum...
    any of you look in the mirror some days and think "holy **** im still skinny", then on other days look and think "wow, im looking big"?. seriously, i dont know if its me or the mirror, but my body seems to fluctuate like this weekly..
    Or when i see a silhouette of myself with my shirt off in the house (like on a wall via a shadow), i actually see i have nice proportions. but then in a mirror im still skinny and it doesnt portray the same.
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    Or when i see a silhouette of myself with my shirt off in the house (like on a wall via a shadow), i actually see i have nice proportions. but then in a mirror im still skinny and it doesnt portray the same.
    You need fun house mirrors. Make me look wide as fuark!
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    I was 90lbs my freshman year of highschool. ****s tough to put on mass but the only trick to putting it on is wanting it bad enough
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    I was 90lbs my freshman year of highschool. ****s tough to put on mass but the only trick to putting it on is wanting it bad enough
    tell me bout it
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    i was 5'4 my freshman year, and junior year grew to 6'3 makes it even harder to put on weight when growin that fast
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    That video only had like 2 skinny brahs. Pretty sure they're looking for morbidly obese people who became bikini/physique competitors. It would be nice to win some of those packages though! I wish I took before pics a year ago when I was 5'10", 145!
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    Journey of me. I started working out in August, started at 84 and am now 110 pounds.

    My finals lifts at whilst working out at a friends house were:

    Squat - 120 - 130
    Bench - 75
    Dead Lifts - 135
    Military Press - 60

    I believe almost everything doubled. But recently, I joined a gym just to have the convenience of working out when ever I want, unfortunately to my disappointment, my lifts at the gym were no where near my lifts when working out at my friends house.

    I think the bar I was using at home was probably at max 7-15 pounds. The bar at the gym is pretty heavy, I don't know what the standard is at gyms but my guess is it's greater than 15 pounds, maybe 20-30?

    But, yeah, my lifts at the gym are terrible, and I was so emo when I couldn't do what I did before.

    My Squats were 100, Military Press was 60 but I struggled to complete full reps, I went until failure, Bench was measly 40 pounds. It's disappointing, I feel as if I started over and no gains were made. God I am so weak, its pathetic.

    I am also starting to track my caloric intake/Macros but it's hard to track like eating a bowl of rice or slices of meat you put in a Sammich, how do you guys do this?
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