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    To Much MCT Oil?

    I take around 6-8 tablespoons of 100% MCT oil a day... thats around 600-800 calories...

    question is can MCT contribute heavy to weight gain (fat), if so how much is considered enough. im asking about the digestion rate of MCT versus weight gain.. obviously its calories in - calories out but this does not always happen when u first wake up in the morning/when u go to bed. MCT oil gets digested in the liver fast and goes as quick energy but is taking around 14g-30g of MCT with every meal pushing it?
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    Originally Posted by D-1Gladiator74 View Post
    I take around 6-8 tablespoons of 100% MCT oil a day... thats around 600-800 calories...

    question is can MCT contribute heavy to weight gain (fat), if so how much is considered enough. im asking about the digestion rate of MCT versus weight gain.. obviously its calories in - calories out but this does not always happen when u first wake up in the morning/when u go to bed. MCT oil gets digested in the liver fast and goes as quick energy but is taking around 14g-30g of MCT with every meal pushing it?
    If your asking if too much fat can cause fat gain then the answer is yes. But dietary fat dose not = fat gain.

    A calorie surplus large enough will cause fat gain regardless of the macronutrient the excess calories come from, weather it is protein fat or carbs.

    There is no absolute number of calories from fat you can have before you start putting on excess fat. This depends on total calories.
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    Originally Posted by Joseph1990 View Post
    If your asking if too much fat can cause fat gain then the answer is yes. But dietary fat dose not = fat gain.

    A calorie surplus large enough will cause fat gain regardless of the macronutrient the excess calories come from, weather it is protein fat or carbs.

    There is no absolute number of calories from fat you can have before you start putting on excess fat. This depends on total calories.
    thank you captain obvious.

    no im not asking if too much fat gain can lead to fat gain, im asking how MCT puts the body through thermogenesis and if someone can expand on the digestion rate of it for me into detail.
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    Originally Posted by D-1Gladiator74 View Post
    thank you captain obvious.

    no im not asking if too much fat gain can lead to fat gain, im asking how MCT puts the body through thermogenesis and if someone can expand on the digestion rate of it for me into detail.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Medium-chain+tr...digestion+rate

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    http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/article10612.htm

    "MCT are broken down almost immediately by enzymes in the saliva and gastric juices so that pancreatic fat-digesting enzymes are not even essential.1 Therefore, there is less strain on the pancreas and digestive system"

    This would lead me to believe that MCT's have no effect on thermogenesis.
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    Medium Chain triglycerides are preferentially and almost entirely cleaved by the liver into ketones, even when not in ketosis. It's not 100%, but it is a significant amount. Your body doesn't store ketones, and the process by which ketones can be converted into fat is highly uncommon.

    So no, MCT do not promote fat gain. They're about as close to magical calories as you're going to get. They are metabolic fuel that, for all practical reasons, will not be stored even at caloric surplus.
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    Originally Posted by access1denied View Post
    Medium Chain triglycerides are preferentially and almost entirely cleaved by the liver into ketones, even when not in ketosis. It's not 100%, but it is a significant amount. Your body doesn't store ketones, and the process by which ketones can be converted into fat is highly uncommon.

    So no, MCT do not promote fat gain. They're about as close to magical calories as you're going to get. They are metabolic fuel that, for all practical reasons, will not be stored even at caloric surplus.
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    If you're getting the runs you're overdoing it but hospitals push as high as 60% (intravenously) of total calorie intake in severe circumstances.

    Remember that movie theaters used coconut oil exclusively and Both Regal and AMC are back to using coconut oil again.

    Check this out:

    Researchers sent samples of popcorn and toppings from three different theaters belonging to each of the chains to an independent lab for analysis and compared their findings to the chains' own nutritional information.

    Both Regal and AMC have been popping their popcorn in 100% coconut oil for a few years now.
    Regal's medium and large popcorns packed the biggest punch, with each containing 20 cups of popcorn, 1,200 calories, and 60 grams of saturated, artery-clogging fat.
    AMC's 16-cup large popcorn tub didn't fare much better, weighing in at 1,030 calories and 57 grams of saturated fat.

    About 80-90% of the calories of "movie popcorn" is the oil and in this case it's mostly MCT's.

    So if you're eating that stuff by the spoon. Forget the spoon and have some fun at home.

    Just pour 2-3.5 ounces of virgin Coconut oil on top of the 94% fat free popcorn (mostly MCT's) . Coconut Oil turns from a solid to a liquid at 76 degrees so you can still keep the cold pressed coconut oil Extra Virgin and unheated/uncooked by getting it above 76 degrees.


    Orville Redenbacher's microwave Smart Pop 94% Fat Free popcorn:
    Nutrition Facts
    Serving Size about 7.5 cups popped
    Servings Per Container about 2
    Amount Per Serving
    Calories 120Calories from Fat 20
    % Daily Value*
    Total Fat 2g 3%
    Saturated Fat .5g 3%
    Trans Fat 0g
    Polyunsaturated Fat .5g
    Monounsaturated Fat .5g
    Cholesterol 0mg 0%
    Sodium 240mg 10%
    Potassium 300mg 9%
    Total Carbohydrate 25g 8%
    Dietary Fiber 4g 16%
    Protein 4g
    Iron 8%


    One other thing,

    I can't post links yet but if you check the studies you'll see MCT's drop insulin resistance, and can pretty much eliminate metabolic syndrome. The resulting drop of fasting insulin levels (even in healthy individuals) will also dramatically curb your appetite so it makes it easier to cut with. Note the two week metabolic adaptation in the second study. You might need to cycle this MCT's for max fat loss and appetite suppression.

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1568535
    Dietary substitution of medium-chain triglycerides improves insulin-mediated glucose metabolism in NIDDM subjects.


    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11571605
    The MCT group showed a significantly greater decrease in body weight during the first 2 weeks. The contribution of body fat to the total weight loss was higher while the contribution of fat-free mass (FFM) was lower. The MCT group had a higher concentration of ketone bodies in plasma and a lower nitrogen excretion in urine. Hunger feelings were less intense while satiety was higher. These differences were observed during the first 2 weeks of treatment and gradually declined during the third and fourth weeks.

    Conclusion: Replacement of LCT by MCT in the VLCD increased the rate of decrease of body fat and body weight and has a sparing effect on FFM. The intensity of hunger feelings was lower and paralleled the higher increase of ketone bodies. These effects gradually declined, indicating subsequent metabolic adaptation. Further studies are required to confirm the protein-sparing and appetite-suppressing effects of MCT supplementation during the first 2 weeks of VLCD treatment.
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