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    i wouldnt recommend starting in protools to produce edm. although it can be done its mostly focused on recording/mixing audio. FL studio is a decent start, i always recommend trying the main DAW programs for a two week trial and seeing which one agrees with your personal workflow. i tried fl studio and hated it, but ableton and i are totally meant for each other
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    Originally Posted by excess34 View Post
    i wouldnt recommend starting in protools to produce edm. although it can be done its mostly focused on recording/mixing audio. FL studio is a decent start, i always recommend trying the main DAW programs for a two week trial and seeing which one agrees with your personal workflow. i tried fl studio and hated it, but ableton and i are totally meant for each other
    would the style of music i want to make influence that decision? I already have FL studio installed but I wouldn't mind trying something new. Which are the big ones?

    Also which website/youtube channel has a great guide to starting? I only know the very basics of the interface of FL Studio
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    Originally Posted by mangravy View Post
    after going to edc i want to take a shot at this for ****s and giggles...where do i even start? pro tools? FL studio?
    Try out each of them tbh. Pretty sure you can get trial versions of Ableton, Logic and FL (or piratebay them). Then carry on with whichever feels most intuitive for you.

    Eventually you might start using different DAWs for different projects anyway. They all have certain advantages and disadvantages.

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    Pro Tools is a studio industry standard. Very good for professional recording, mixing and mastering. Downside is it has a steeper learning curve. Wouldn't recommend it when you're starting out tbh.

    Ableton is great for Live performance, loop based music (EDM is exactly that), and in my opinion the easiest to learn to use. It also has more options than mosts for plugins, and can itself be used as a plugin. Can suffer a bit in sound quality though, particularly when you're 'warping' samples to match the BPM.

    Logic is similar to Pro Tools, albeit a bit easier to learn. It's like the Photoshop of DAW's, with tons of shortcuts and hidden functionalities. The plugins it comes shipped with are all really good, and it's good for just about any kind of music. Sound quality is good, and it would definitely be my second choice in DAW after Ableton.

    FL Studio, Audiomulch, Cubase and Reason are also viable options, but I don't have much experience with them. Although if you want to try a different approach to composition, Reason might be something to look at. It basically emulates a real analog studio, so you can rewire synths, plug effect modules in manually, etc. More of a 'tactile' way of working.

    http://www.sonicacademy.com/ is a reasonable resource. However, don't take their music theory videos for granted. They have a LOT of errors in those. Use their videos to help understand how dance music is composed, but don't follow the tutorials slavishly with your own tracks.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dance-Music-...ref=pd_sim_b_2

    That book is also worth a read. Covers many aspects of production. The genre-focused sections might not be up to date, but they cover the foundations on which modern genres were built. Also should help a little bit with the music theory behind it all. There are PDFs floating about on the usual sites too.
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    Originally Posted by Aisha808 View Post
    Try out each of them tbh. Pretty sure you can get trial versions of Ableton, Logic and FL (or piratebay them). Then carry on with whichever feels most intuitive for you.

    Eventually you might start using different DAWs for different projects anyway. They all have certain advantages and disadvantages.
    Ok cool thanks

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    Originally Posted by mangravy View Post
    would the style of music i want to make influence that decision? I already have FL studio installed but I wouldn't mind trying something new. Which are the big ones?

    Also which website/youtube channel has a great guide to starting? I only know the very basics of the interface of FL Studio
    no, style of music doesn't influence anything. any kind of music can be made in any program. check out http://audio.tutsplus.com/
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    Originally Posted by excess34 View Post
    no, style of music doesn't influence anything. any kind of music can be made in any program. check out http://audio.tutsplus.com/
    thanks dude. bout to hit the gym then stay up all night tryna make some music

    if you have any good reads/forums/personal tips feel free to let me know.

    i cant find any good tutorials for an absolute beginner. like literally starting from how to lay down your drums and hihats. a lot of people keep mentioning nexus too, should i get that plugin?
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    just downloaded fl studio and i have no idea wtf im doing lol, eh will figure it out tomorrow morning
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    Originally Posted by mangravy View Post
    thanks dude. bout to hit the gym then stay up all night tryna make some music

    if you have any good reads/forums/personal tips feel free to let me know.

    i cant find any good tutorials for an absolute beginner. like literally starting from how to lay down your drums and hihats. a lot of people keep mentioning nexus too, should i get that plugin?
    Don't bother with plugins yet. FL comes with more than enough to get you started, and you won't have a clue how to use a plugin like that yet. Read the Fl studio manual to get started.
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    I've been using ableton for 3 years, but I'm thinking about switching to studio one.
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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    might get my first release with this one
    http://soundcloud.com/hamzabotic/ham...ersprossen-wip
    Has a pretty old-school summer vibe to it, that said I think it could benefit from a strong melody somewhere.



    Originally Posted by LOVEHUNTER2011 View Post
    https://soundcloud.com/tr-kk/tr-kk-vaeh-original-mix

    My first try on a... call-it-whatever-you-want-genre.

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    It could use a bit more of low end. I think I can hear a sub in there (using headphones atm so I'm not entirely sure) but it seems to be an octave too low.



    Originally Posted by ETbrah View Post
    In on this.
    Check out this flip. probs my fav. Not really srs about my production, just as a hobby. Might get into it once i get time.

    https://soundcloud.com/sanketnagar/beat1
    This is really good dude, I love that lead instrument.

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    Finished creating my very first track!

    I kept the 138bpm for the trance feel.

    https://soundcloud.com/robertmulline...ery-first-song

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    yeah I've got to know one of the local resident DJs around here and I asked him if I could remix one of his tracks that his producer made. SOOOO

    I managed to make a House song with very heavy trance elements thrown in.

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    Sup brahs, I just started "producing" trance, as I've only listened to it for a few months now. I finished my first WIP a few mins ago and would like to hear your opinions. Disclaimer though: I have no idea what I'm doing in regards to mixing the actual track, and I have a ton to learn. So if anyone has any basic advice/rules of thumb that I should build on, I'd love to hear it.

    Here's the track https://soundcloud.com/minorlive/eskay-1st-wip

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    Originally Posted by S4mwiseg4mgee View Post
    what are you running on the master chain?

    http://play.beatport.com/contests/fe...3a0d1e6c98435c fellow misc brah and I entered in this remix competition, lemme know what you think
    Right now, just a tiny bit of reverb and the initial fl limiter. Would compression help with leveling the volume?
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    i have really subtle compression on my master, sidechained to the kick


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    Originally Posted by S4mwiseg4mgee View Post
    what are you running on the master chain?

    http://play.beatport.com/contests/fe...3a0d1e6c98435c fellow misc brah and I entered in this remix competition, lemme know what you think
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    Originally Posted by S4mwiseg4mgee View Post
    http://play.beatport.com/contests/fe...3a0d1e6c98435c fellow misc brah and I entered in this remix competition, lemme know what you think
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    Originally Posted by minorlive View Post
    Sup brahs, I just started "producing" trance, as I've only listened to it for a few months now. I finished my first WIP a few mins ago and would like to hear your opinions. Disclaimer though: I have no idea what I'm doing in regards to mixing the actual track, and I have a ton to learn. So if anyone has any basic advice/rules of thumb that I should build on, I'd love to hear it.

    I have no idea why it's so quiet, maybe the master level was too low when I exported?
    I would start by searching youtube for "master chain" to see what sort of things most people use.. usually a mid/side EQ, multiband compressor, sometimes a maximizer, and something for the stereo field..

    I think you might have some sort of compressor or limiter set too low.. you can hear it release at 1:02-1:03.. It would have been nice it hear some brighter sounds in there as well. Overall good sounds.. your own synths?

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    I managed to make a House song with very heavy trance elements thrown in.
    well put together, vocals and synths sound good together, but I think I would have gone with a different hihat. that one feels a little brash
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    Hi guys,

    Finished creating my very first track!
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    great for a first track! the mix/master looks and sounds really tight too. I would have liked for that sound at 5:20 to come in sooner though


    ----------- I picked up working on this again.. gonna have a friend collab on it later, but 90% finished on my end

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    your kick isn't coming through brah
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    Originally Posted by StevenBG View Post


    well put together, vocals and synths sound good together, but I think I would have gone with a different hihat. that one feels a little brash



    ----------- I picked up working on this again.. gonna have a friend collab on it later, but 90% finished on my end

    http://snd.sc/12It553 thoughts?
    Yea I'm still trying to get used to EQing hi hats, glad you liked it, I talked to the guys who did the original and they liked it a lot so I was really happy last night. That girl who's the singer is still in High School and she doesn't even look like it and she's hot as hellllll.

    On your track, imo the kick could be a little stronger. What genre is it? Chillstep? I had this idea to while I was listening to it. Maybe you could do some crazy panning with that synth stab that starts at :30 seconds.
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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    your kick isn't coming through brah
    Originally Posted by Sebt1890 View Post
    Yea I'm still trying to get used to EQing hi hats, glad you liked it, I talked to the guys who did the original and they liked it a lot so I was really happy last night. That girl who's the singer is still in High School and she doesn't even look like it and she's hot as hellllll.

    On your track, imo the kick could be a little stronger. What genre is it? Chillstep? I had this idea to while I was listening to it. Maybe you could do some crazy panning with that synth stab that starts at :30 seconds.
    I just noticed how weak that kick is.. It was too much, so I dialed it back, just a too much.. I'm gonna try some panning on the sweep, good idea.. As far as what kind of track it is, I was just trying to make a chill dubstep track with a Flux/Doctor P feel to it..
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    for chillstep you can as well turn down the bass a bit and high cut it a bit, but play some (different) melody at top in full stereo and with some nice reverb/delay



    i like the vocal samples btw
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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    for chillstep you can as well turn down the bass a bit and high cut it a bit, but play some (different) melody at top in full stereo and with some nice reverb/delay



    i like the vocal samples btw
    for sure gonna try different things with the sub bass when it comes to the final master and thanks that vocal sound it actually a synth hehh

    Originally Posted by Sebt1890 View Post
    That girl who's the singer is still in High School and she doesn't even look like it and she's hot as hellllll.
    Must be nice.. I've kinda been looking for someone around here to do vocals, but all the female singers I know are country.. Not even gonna try


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    something i've been working on this morning, went for a bit of a summer vibe and it's got a long way to go but I like the chords and think the ideas alright. vocal is kind of meh imo, think i'm going to look around a few remix comps and choose something that I think would be cool to remix and spend some time working on a decent version. anyway have a listen:

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