Why would you join the Army over the Marines? (srs)

[Eskimo]

pretty much went like this

-called marine recruiter, i didnt have diploma, he said "call me back when you get a GED"
-friend who had recently joined National Guard gave his recruiter my #
-that recruiter called, said "no diploma? no GED? dont worry for $75 I can get you one"
-6 years later here i am working as a full time instructor

[blumpkin415]

You combat engineer?

Yep. 12B in a SAPPER unit.

Sappers are America's throbbing cock of justice

[strongbrah]

Serious answer: If you don't know that you want to be a Marine, then the Marine Corps probably isn't for you.

I don't think it's a good idea to join a service on a whim...

but what do I know aren't you like an E8 or something?

[polkster84]

Yep. 12B in a SAPPER unit.

Sappers are America's throbbing cock of justice

Yeah...combat engineers are crazy... deployed as a PLT medic with a combat engineer unit back 05-06.

[Jim Jitsu]

Blumpkin's vids for the win.

[D.Boss]

Yep. 12B in a SAPPER unit.

Sappers are America's throbbing cock of justice

SAPPER tab? More like CRAPPER tab. loljk I saw that rangervideo where I assume you got the phrase "America's throbbing cock of justice" from.


I thought Rangers were the most hardcore in the Army? All of the high-speed **** you imagine soldiers doing, Rangers are the ones doing it full throttle right? What's the difference between the physical or mental capabilities of an average ranger vs an average sapper? I assumed Rangers were the baddest of ass?

[CaptChip40]

Serious answer: If you don't know that you want to be a Marine, then the Marine Corps probably isn't for you.

^^^^^^^This is pretty much sums it up.

Hey Nutsy:
I was stationed at Camp Smith. On Sundays we would sneak into the Sub base on Pearl for some decent food. Did it for months till we got caught. Navy sure knows how to eat.
You eat there at all?

[nutsy54]

I don't think it's a good idea to join a service on a whim...

Completely agree, no matter which service that is.

but what do I know aren't you like an E8 or something?

Yes. (Navy Senior Chief, 20 years so far).

[nutsy54]

Hey Nutsy:
I was stationed at Camp Smith. On Sundays we would sneak into the Sub base on Pearl for some decent food. Did it for months till we got caught. Navy sure knows how to eat.
You eat there at all?

I don't think I've eaten at any Pearl Harbor galley since my first tour here, 94-97.

[FSUFAN11]

Have you served in the Marine Corps or as a Ranger? Then what makes you think you're qualified to compare them?

And Go 'Noles.

no and no
didnt say one was better than the other... but i am considering joining and the rangers seems like a sweet gig... perhaps transition in to the green berets
how bout that recruiting class?

[ronpaul3046]

Marines is just a bunch of advertising.....your better off joining the army...


That being said, i would highly reccomend against joining the military at all when you can go to combat. Sad to see young chaps such as you op, being sucked into the military to fight and possibly die because of money

[bdub69]

What is WOTF and wut

warrant officer flight training program

basically you can be a rotary(helicopter) pilot right out of high school. i was so close to going into that program, but i didn't want to leave my job. I passed the AFAST and all. sometimes i regret not going for it. always dreamed of being a pilot growing up. my godfather flew helicopters in the army when he was in.

[imam0nst3r]

air force>marines>navy>coast guard>army

[Swolebrah69]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to blumpkin415 again.

Trying to get into Marine PLC this summer
If I don't get in I'm just going to enlist after college

[blumpkin415]

Marines is just a bunch of advertising.....your better off joining the army...


That being said, i would highly reccomend against joining the military at all when you can go to combat. Sad to see young chaps such as you op, being sucked into the military to fight and possibly die because of money

Glad to see you are red again. I have met frenchmen with more balls than you

[blumpkin415]

SAPPER tab? More like CRAPPER tab. loljk I saw that rangervideo where I assume you got the phrase "America's throbbing cock of justice" from.


I thought Rangers were the most hardcore in the Army? All of the high-speed **** you imagine soldiers doing, Rangers are the ones doing it full throttle right? What's the difference between the physical or mental capabilities of an average ranger vs an average sapper? I assumed Rangers were the baddest of ass?

Sappers have all the physical capabilities of a Ranger, but they have about 20x the technical knowledge and versatility.

My Company Commander was in Sapper School with 8 Rangers, they all washed out except for one. He completed the course, but did not earn the Sapper tab because he didn't pass the technical aspects of the course.

[BIGDUBBDEISEL]

Army national guard, can't beat the college benefits.

[theACEofSPADES]

Army recruiters wouldn't give me Airborne, I walked down the hall and joined the Marines.

I just got back from boot camp so I cant really say anything about being a Marine and how it is, I was on the Crucible about a month ago.

I will say that the Army has more options

From what I've heard, army life is better and has a wider variety of MOS's. Both the marines and the army have their own special forces group. Common thought where I'm from is that the marines is the toughest and the most respected. I respect both.

There's only one Special Forces, and that's the Green Berets.

[Three27ci]

As you can see, this is my first post here. I've been reading the Ask US Marines anything thread because I want to join the military after highschool.

No disrespect, but why did you Soldiers decide to join the Army instead of the USMC? Or vice versa for you Marines

And thank you to anyone serving or vets, I would rep all of you if I had any

Army for me, could leave for basic as soon as March.. hello Army Aviation.. only branch you can fly in without a bachelors degree

[mktwelve]

Tradition. My grandpa served for the Army during WW2, so if I had to choose it'd be the Army.

[D.Boss]

Sappers have all the physical capabilities of a Ranger, but they have about 20x the technical knowledge and versatility.

My Company Commander was in Sapper School with 8 Rangers, they all washed out except for one. He completed the course, but did not earn the Sapper tab because he didn't pass the technical aspects of the course.

They washed out because of the educational demands I assume? I've worked with a few ex-rangers and rangers still in the military in my shop, mostly for jewelry repair, but I've always been left with the impression that Rangers just stomped the sht out of every other group in the military in terms of elite physical preparedness and. One basically said Rangers are elite where as army divers and sappers are just above average.

I guess Rangers are elite sht-talkers but I didn't know that sappers were just as hardcore.

[blumpkin415]

They washed out because of the educational demands I assume? I've worked with a few ex-rangers and rangers still in the military in my shop, mostly for jewelry repair, but I've always been left with the impression that Rangers just stomped the sht out of every other group in the military in terms of elite physical preparedness and. One basically said Rangers are elite where as army divers and sappers are just above average.

I guess Rangers are elite sht-talkers but I didn't know that sappers were just as hardcore.

Sapper school is actually more physically intensive than ranger school.

[D.Boss]

Sapper school is actually more physically intensive than ranger school.

Man, thank you for enlightening me bro. I just did a quick google e-search and pulled this up

Sapper Train Up
Week 1 - Assessment
Day Event
Monday Non-Standard APFT including:
- 2-min push-ups
- 2-min sit-ups
- 2-mile run
- Pull-ups
Tuesday 4 Mile Run
Pyramids (10):
- Push-ups
- Sit-ups
- Pull-ups
Wednesday 6 Mile Roadmarch, 35 lbs.
Thursday Interval Runs (2 Miles)
Friday Rope Climbs
Max Pull-ups
Max Dips
Weight Training
Soldier should use this week as an assessment tool to see what progress needs to be
made prior to attending the Sapper Leader Course. The roadmarch should be conducted
at a 15-minute per mile pace.

Week 2
Day Event
Monday 6 Mile Run
Tuesday Interval Run (2 miles)
- Push-ups (Regular, Wide arm, Close hand; 2-min each)
- Abs (Regular sit-ups, Flutter kicks, Rocky sit-ups; 2-min
each)
- Pull-ups (Regular grip, Reverse grip, Wide grip, Close grip;
max each)
Wednesday 6 Mile Roadmarch, 40 lbs.
Thursday Sprints:
2 x 200m
4 x 100m
6 x 50m
8 x 25m
- 30 Push-ups / Sit-ups between each sprint
Friday Rope Climbs
Max Pull-ups
Max Dips
Weight Training
2 x 200m
4 x 100m
6 x 50m
8 x 25m
- 30 Push-ups / Sit-ups between each sprint
Friday Rope Climbs
Max Pull-ups
Max Dips
Weight Training

Week 3
Day Event
Monday 3 Mile Run
- 2-min push-ups
- 2-min sit-ups
- Max pull-ups
Tuesday 1000m Swim
Wednesday 8 Mile Roadmarch, 45 lbs.
Thursday Pyramids (12):
- Push-ups
- Sit-ups
- Pull-ups
Friday 6.5 Mile Run
2-min push-ups
2-min sit-ups
Max pull-ups

Week 4
Day Event
Monday 4 Mile Run
- 2-min push-ups
- 2-min sit-ups
- Max pull-ups
Tuesday Sprints:
3 x 200m
5 x 100m
7 x 50m
9 x 25m
-40 Push-ups / Sit-ups between each sprint
Wednesday 8 Mile Roadmarch, 60 lbs.
Thursday Upper Body:
- Push-ups (Regular, Wide arm, Close hand; 3-min each)
- Abs (Regular sit-ups, Flutter kicks, Rocky sit-ups; 3-min
each)
- Pull-ups (Regular grip, Reverse grip, Wide grip, Close grip;
max each)
Friday 2.5 Mile Boot Run with LBE and Weapon

Week 5
Day Event
Monday 3 Mile Interval Run
2x:
- 2-min push-ups
- 2-min sit-ups
- Max pull-ups
Tuesday 500m Swim
300m Swim
200m Swim
100m Swim
- 50 Push-ups / Flutter kicks between each swim
Wednesday 3 Mile Boot Run with LBE and Weapon
Thursday Pyramids (14):
- Push-ups
- Sit-ups
- Pull-ups
Friday 6.5 Mile Run

Week 6 - Re-Assesment
Day Event
Monday Non-Standard APFT including:
- 2-min push-ups
- 2-min sit-ups
- 2-mile run
- Pull-ups
Tuesday Rest Day
Wednesday 3.5 Mile Boot Run
Thursday Rest Day
Friday 12 Mile Road March, 50 lbs.


Damn that's intense, why so much swimming? On the 5+mile runs, what min per mile is that, 8? Lots of respect bro.

[blumpkin415]

Sapper Creed
I am a sapper. The cutting edge of my country's sword.

I will always endeavor to complete my sapper mission regardless of available assets. My flexibility and special training shall provide my task force with a tool to overcome insurmountable odds.

I realize that I will be called upon for my expertise in all aspects of mobility, counter-mobility and survivability. The failure to effectively accomplish my mission could cost the lives of others.

I will set the example by keeping myself physically fit and mentally tough. I will strive to sharpen my sapper skills and the skills of those I support.

Sappers lead the way!

[neowolfe]

Army offered me $24,000.00 to join.

marines didnt offer me jack ****.

[blumpkin415]

Phase I. This phase lasts 13 days. It includes general subjects such as:
 Physical training
 Medical techniques
 Expedient antennas
 Demolitions training (conventional and expedient)
 Urban Breaching
 Threat weapons/mines
 Land navigation
 Knots and rigging
 Air operations (aerial resupply and landing zone, pick-zone, and drop zone operations)
 Mountaineering
 Water operations (scout swimming, boat operations, river crossings, and helocasting techniques).
Phase II. This phase lasts for 15 days. It includes basic patrolling techniques and battle drills that place strong emphasis on troop-leading procedures, infantry tactics and techniques, planning for operations, and small-unit operations. Training includes:
 Combatives
 Patrol organization and movement
 Intelligence
 Recon/Raid/Ambush
 Operation order
 Warning order
 MOUT operation
 Breaching Tenants
 Troop leading procedures
 9 Day Field Training Exercise
FTX: This is a continuous 9 day field training exercise. Student leadership is rotated during different phases of the mission which requires students to perform in simulated combat situations to accomplish a variety of missions in a realistic scenario. Students are graded on their ability to apply the principles of patrolling to accomplish the mission. Missions conducted during the STX/FTX are a 50/50 mix of engineer vs. infantry missions. Engineer missions include: bridge reconnaissance, bridge demolition, road craters, covert complex obstacle breach, urban reconnaissance, and field expedient demolitions.

[OliverClozov]

Rangers > Any Marine unit. /thread.

this is why more delta operators are Rangers than anything else, more than force recon, seals, tac-p, etc.

[Suit]

Sapper school is actually more physically intensive than ranger school.

Yeah?

[strongbrah]

Marines is just a bunch of advertising.....your better off joining the army...

Are you even in either services?

[blumpkin415]

On the 5+mile runs, what min per mile is that, 8? Lots of respect bro.

DAILY PHYSICAL TRAINING
During daily physical training students must "qualify" by completing the callisthenic exercises and distance run with the cadre leader for that day. Students who exhibit poor physical conditioning or do not complete the run will not receive the allocated points for that PT session.
A typical physical training session during the first 2 weeks may include:
 Several exercises working both upper and lower body to muscle failure.
 Distance run of 3 - 7 miles, at a 7.0 minute per mile pace. Runs are conducted in formation.
 Students are required to do 6 chin-ups, complete a 12-foot horizontal ladder, and climb a 30-foot
rope before each meal and after each PT session.
 Foot March: All personnel will complete a 12-mile foot march, with weapon, LBE and 35 pound
Pack within 3 hours.