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    Originally Posted by madadam View Post
    1.M.R is actually #6 on the list out of the top selling unique pre-workout supplements that contain creatine.

    It follows:

    1. Jack3d
    2. NO-Xplode
    3. Assault
    4. SuperPump 250
    5. SuperPump Max
    the fck i just looked it was like 4th?
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    Originally Posted by CELLUCORSCEO View Post
    I figured I would repost this from a prior thread:

    "I would simply like for everyone to consider the following...

    Current top pre-workout on bb.com = 45 servings/15 days max dosage for $26.99

    2nd best selling pre-workout on bb.com = 50 servings/16.66 days at max dosage for $33.99

    3rd best selling pre-workout on bb.com = 40 servings/20 days at max dosage for $34.99

    4th best selling pre-workout on bb.com = 40 servings/13.33 days at max dosage for $33.95


    Those same products have the following cost per serving/cost per max dosage:

    Top seller = .60/1.80

    2nd best = .68/2.04

    3rd best = .87/1.75

    4th best = .85/2.55

    Cost per serving really ends up being somewhat arbitrary. It would be one thing if everyone dosed C4 at 3 scoops, but 98% of people who have logged it have said 1.5 to 2 is where it is at. Therefore, C4 at $24.99 is .83 per serving, but more importantly, $1.66 per max dosage. This places it lower than the 4 products I am comparing it to above.

    I would also like to clarify for everyone that C4 will be available in a 60 serving next week which is priced at $39.99. This has a per serving of .66 and most importantly, a price per max dose of $1.33. Not taking into consideration BOGOs or other specials, this price is 26% lower than the top seller.

    So, as far as whether or not this product is a good value, the math would point to this product being the best current value out of the top 4 sellers on bb.com."

    At max dosage, what is a better value? I will provide a FREE C4 to the first 50 people with a response. Product must be a pre-workout in the top 5 best sellers on bb.com and contain creatine.
    Just for clarification....

    Jack3d is two scoop serving for most and the most common serving and is also the dose we sample at...some do venture to 3 scoops and Many use 1 scoop and some use 1.5 scoops.

    I wish C4 all the success in the world...
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    Originally Posted by madadam View Post
    Currently BB.com is running a promotion for $10 off a 3 Bottle combo of Jack3d. This translates to:

    3 Bottles of Jack3d Regular Price: $76.95 for 45 max dosage servings = $1.71 per serving

    With the $10 off coupon applied, this becomes:

    3 Bottle of Jack3d Discount Price: $66.95 for 45 max dosage servings = $1.49 per serving

    Jack3d is currently BB.com's top selling pre-workout supplement, and the 3 bottle combo is #5 on the list.

    Do I win?
    I also want to add that if you think using a $10 off coupon code is unfair, even after applying the seemingly always applicable 10% off entire order code the per serving cost of C4 Extreme is $1.66 x 90% = $1.494...still more than the $1.488 per serving cost of Jack3d that I rounded up to $1.49.

    Yes, I really want that C4 lol.
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    Also, MP Assault is 24.99 using the current $10 off coupon that is good on all MP products.

    MP max amount is 1 scoop so each workout comes to $1.25

    Cellucor max amount is 2 scoops so each workout comes to $1.67
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    Originally Posted by buddy72192 View Post
    Also, MP Assault is 24.99 using the current $10 off coupon that is good on all MP products.

    MP max amount is 1 scoop so each workout comes to $1.25

    Cellucor max amount is 2 scoops so each workout comes to $1.67
    True. For some reason I thought that coupon is only good on Combat Powder
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    Originally Posted by madadam View Post
    Currently BB.com is running a promotion for $10 off a 3 Bottle combo of Jack3d. This translates to:

    3 Bottles of Jack3d Regular Price: $76.95 for 45 max dosage servings = $1.71 per serving

    With the $10 off coupon applied, this becomes:

    3 Bottle of Jack3d Discount Price: $66.95 for 45 max dosage servings = $1.49 per serving

    Jack3d is currently BB.com's top selling pre-workout supplement, and the 3 bottle combo is #5 on the list.

    Do I win?
    Well, I was referring to singe units, not bulk discounts. But considering you made the effort to show the math, I will get you one sent out to try. I won't send anymore to anyone who cites this example. PM me your details...
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    Originally Posted by USPlabs View Post
    Just for clarification....

    Jack3d is two scoop serving for most and the most common serving and is also the dose we sample at...some do venture to 3 scoops and Many use 1 scoop and some use 1.5 scoops.

    I wish C4 all the success in the world...
    Thanks Jacob, we wish you guys continued success as well. It is nice to see two Aggie owned businesses succeeding !
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    I thought it was pretty decent... take out the 1,3 and it would be stellar

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    Right now its essential, but we of course are always looking for an alternative. 1,3 when used right only negatively affects a very small percentage of people. The crash is non-existant, or very mild for almost everyone else. Even some of the 3 scoopers suggest little to no crash.
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    Originally Posted by CELLUCORSCEO View Post
    At max dosage, what is a better value? I will provide a FREE C4 to the first 50 people with a response. Product must be a pre-workout in the top 5 best sellers on bb.com and contain creatine.
    if you factor out different flavors and variations of package sizing in the top 10 pre-workouts, B]1MR[/B] is now currently #5 on the list.

    the larger bottles are at a cost of 31.95$ and contain 84 servings, which comes out to .37$

    the max allowed per day, at 3 scoops, still totals to around 1.11$ a day at MAX servings.

    the main disadvantage to this product over cellucor is the use of a proprietary blend, which masks the total content of each product, but if youre looking at cost effectiveness, at 3 scoops, you would assume equal or higher content of main ingredients, and still a cheaper total cost.
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    Originally Posted by madadam View Post
    Shortly after this pre-workout appeared in the BodyBuilding.com store it had about 25 reviews (makes sense because lots of people buy new products) and overall they were very positive. C4 had about a 9.7 rating. I just checked it again, and now that it has more reviews, 40 something, it has a 7.8 rating. I decided to go in and read the reviews and about 10 in a row all give it a 1 or a 2 rating. On top of it, the reasons for these low ratings are all pretty weak (i.e. "too many stims" or "worse than N.O. Xplode").

    Do you guys think this is for real and C4 Extreme is a sub-par product, or is it good?...so good maybe that someone needed to halt its successes.

    Discuss.
    IMHO, sub-par for what I had expected after trying their previous stuff. Although, I think they changed the formula a bit after the initial testers.
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    Originally Posted by mitchconner View Post
    if you factor out different flavors and variations of package sizing in the top 10 pre-workouts, B]1MR[/B] is now currently #5 on the list.

    the larger bottles are at a cost of 31.95$ and contain 84 servings, which comes out to .37$

    the max allowed per day, at 3 scoops, still totals to around 1.11$ a day at MAX servings.

    the main disadvantage to this product over cellucor is the use of a proprietary blend, which masks the total content of each product, but if youre looking at cost effectiveness, at 3 scoops, you would assume equal or higher content of main ingredients, and still a cheaper total cost.
    I'm pretty sure this promo is over.......

    Your argument is valid except for the fact that C4 extreme is currently being sold at Buy 2 get 1 free. If one buys three 60 serving containers with this promo for $79.98, C4 Extreme is about $.89 per serving at maximum dosage. This is a steal.
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    I also was a beta-tester for C4 extreme, and thought that at 2 scoops it was fantastic. Great BA tingles, decent pump, good strength- I weigh 230ish, depending on water, so 2 scoops providing me good energy is awesome! I'd rate it vastly above nearly all other preworkouts I've tried!

    I also provided a review in store and under product reviews.
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    Originally Posted by MikeCellucor View Post
    One of the 1/10 is from Canada. We cannot ship 1,3 DMAA to canada, so he has never tried the product, nor the beta.

    He is a troll. The other accounts are 1 pic, no bio, no progress, no posts, and even if they are from an earlier joining date, their profiles are unmaintained.

    I would happily take any rating given fairly. It would only help us improve our products.

    What no one realizes is that 1.5 to 2 scoops was about 60% of thebeta testers. A solid 35% or so were taking 1 scoop with high reviews. We had a sellect few go to 2.5-3 scoops out of there own record, and they rated above 10/10, but we stick to 2 scoops as the max dose for the masses.

    Its simply the usual suspects playing the review game.

    1.) Shill review
    2.) troll threads
    3.) discredit reviews
    4.) to distract from the 100 logs already out there saying great things
    5.) Those who don't like C4 so far, I can count on my hand. Even though its alpha yohimbine some still are too sensitive too it.
    6.) if its does nothing at 2 scoops you are broken
    7.)60 serving at a lower serving cost, on it way...
    I just wrote an honest review on it, and wasn't trolling. (Love the company)
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    I am not from Canada where 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is illegal.
    I am a real person who updates pictures and posts consistently.
    I consistently go to the gym and train, and have tried many other competitor preworkouts.

    I loved everything about the product as you can tell by the review... and asside form the Beta Alanine tingle, felt nothing.
    Only things that come to mind that may have been the issue: taking one scoop

    My training partner however who also tried this preworkout, was on the other end of the spectrum and got a great workout, pumps, focus, and lasting endurance
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    with the 10% off coupon, total shipped price is 77.96, correlating to a max dose (3 scoops) price of $1.30

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