Arnolds delts

[coolcoolcat]

He had some pretty decent sized delts for being over 6ft tall. Why though did they seem to totally shrink when he stopped competing? People could easily say it was due to that fact that he stopped using gear but his arms remained around the same size. Did he have genetically poor shoulder development? Or I know there are some photos of him in the late 70's where he was super skinny due to him getting involved in marathons etc. I mean he was significantly smaller when he came back in 1980.

[Loctus]

Could you please try to make dumber threads k?

[XClassic10]

it seems even early on his arms always overpowered his delts, he didn't have much of a cap or width to them even though his arms were already well developed. it's just one of his genetically weaker muscle groups.

[AnarkyLost]

[AnarkyLost]

[Emmortal]

Arnold has sloped shoulders which by his own admittance don't give you that capped look. They were pretty weak, his chest and arms really overpowered them.

Drugs used by the guys these days play a big role in shoulder shape as well.

[DavisForman]

Arnold has sloped shoulders which by his own admittance don't give you that capped look. They were pretty weak, his chest and arms really overpowered them.

Drugs used by the guys these days play a big role in shoulder shape as well.

[paullaura]

How do todays drugs have any bearing on shoulder shape??????

[J_dazzle23]

You have to be talking about synthol??? I don't see how any drugs(other than MAYBE growth...and that would be a stretch...) would change muscle shape?

[ArabPrince]

Drugs used by the guys these days play a big role in shoulder shape as well.

[deadsheepmill]

Drugs used by the guys these days play a big role in shoulder shape as well.

GH shoulders????

[Emmortal]

GH shoulders????

Exactly. High doses of it cap the shoulders out. It's commonly known that it has this effect.

And no, I'm not suggesting it changes the shape, just amplifies it quite a bit making them very round and capped. Why do you think none of the guys from the 70's had shoulders like the guys do today? It's not because guys have superior genetics today, the difference is GH use, that's all.

[GholaTeg]

Arnold has sloped shoulders which by his own admittance don't give you that capped look. They were pretty weak, his chest and arms really overpowered them.

Drugs used by the guys these days play a big role in shoulder shape as well.

[Redesign2alpha]

it seems even early on his arms always overpowered his delts, he didn't have much of a cap or width to them even though his arms were already well developed. it's just one of his genetically weaker muscle groups.

Pretty much this OP

[hendrix190]

i never really thought arnolds shoulders were very good,

[PaLftr]

i never really thought arnolds shoulders were very good,

Biggest on stage.

[nsxmatt]

Exactly. High doses of it cap the shoulders out. It's commonly known that it has this effect.

And no, I'm not suggesting it changes the shape, just amplifies it quite a bit making them very round and capped. Why do you think none of the guys from the 70's had shoulders like the guys do today? It's not because guys have superior genetics today, the difference is GH use, that's all.

Seriously, put your pants back on so you'll quit pulling this stuff out of your ass.

[Rsardinia]

Seriously, put your pants back on so you'll quit pulling this stuff out of your ass.

Well I don't know much about AAS use but I thought there was some localization effect to shoulder shots.

[Emmortal]

Seriously, put your pants back on so you'll quit pulling this stuff out of your ass.

Explain to me why pretty much every competitor now has round capped shoulders whereas hardly any (if at all compared to today) of the guys from the 70's and early 80's pre-GH use didn't?

It's common knowledge with anyone who's used it at high doses that this is an effect it has. I am certainly not the first person to even say this so I honestly don't see what your problem is.

[RiK]

i agree, more androgen receptors in the shoulder/trap region etc.. not sure why everyone doesn't know this..

[DavisForman]

Explain to me why pretty much every competitor now has round capped shoulders whereas hardly any (if at all compared to today) of the guys from the 70's and early 80's pre-GH use didn't?

It's common knowledge with anyone who's used it at high doses that this is an effect it has. I am certainly not the first person to even say this so I honestly don't see what your problem is.

And no one had Branch Warren/Ronnie Coleman legs in the 70s either. GH legs too?



Biggest broscientist on the forum

[GholaTeg]

Well I don't know much about AAS use but I thought there was some localization effect to shoulder shots.

well that does sounds like it could be valid but its still speculation.

how do we know that its simply not a result of the muscle growing large enough off the clavicle, like any other muscle, that's causing the round, capped look for instance?

[VaughnTrue]

i agree, more androgen receptors in the shoulder/trap region etc.. not sure why everyone doesn't know this..

injected androgens needs to first detach from their ester before they can attach to androgen receptors. In order to do this, the compound must be metabolizes, passed through the blood stream, and then seperated evenly throughout the body.

So, there is no way a spot injection will deliver more size to a specific muscle group based on active androgen receptors in the area. However, site specific shots can induce greater inflammation of the muscle fibers causing a heightened "repair" signal to be sent thus creating slightly larger muscle cells.

[RiK]

injected androgens needs to first detach from their ester before they can attach to androgen receptors. In order to do this, the compound must be metabolizes, passed through the blood stream, and then seperated evenly throughout the body.

So, there is no way a spot injection will deliver more size to a specific muscle group based on active androgen receptors in the area. However, site specific shots can induce greater inflammation of the muscle fibers causing a heightened "repair" signal to be sent thus creating slightly larger muscle cells.

No, the point i am putting across is the quantity of drug use is greater therefore we have seen amplified growth in areas with more receptors.

[Emmortal]

And no one had Branch Warren/Ronnie Coleman legs in the 70s either. GH legs too?



Biggest broscientist on the forum

What do you think GH does exactly? You have no clue and just make yourself look ignorant with every post. You should stay out of conversations with which you have no experience with.

[Emmortal]

injected androgens needs to first detach from their ester before they can attach to androgen receptors. In order to do this, the compound must be metabolizes, passed through the blood stream, and then seperated evenly throughout the body.

So, there is no way a spot injection will deliver more size to a specific muscle group based on active androgen receptors in the area. However, site specific shots can induce greater inflammation of the muscle fibers causing a heightened "repair" signal to be sent thus creating slightly larger muscle cells.

Yup, site injection does not work and is not related to what I stated in any way. Other than what you said, inflammation in the area, there's no way for site specific injections to modify muscle shape.

[Arsenal01]

Well I don't know much about AAS use but I thought there was some localization effect to shoulder shots.

some believe this some dont...people who take their test in their calves...i dont even

[BartPimpson]

I think that drugs like esiclene stretch the muscle fascias (like synthol) and also provide an anabolic effect.

[DavisForman]

What do you think GH does exactly? You have no clue and just make yourself look ignorant with every post. You should stay out of conversations with which you have no experience with.

Apparently it caps your shoulders...

[SeanRector]

davis your unknowledgeable on this subject and making yourself look ignorant just stop man...no hate.