So was the holocaust fake or not?

[Letthemcome]

honestly don't know what to believe anymore. if it's real the way they've ****ed up the information, numbers and evidence has been pathetic. seems like tonnes just died from typhus.

but the jews did slaughter ss guards in rage when the americans freed them at one camp. they were obviously mistreated in some of them, but that was standard wartime behaviour from most of the countries then. and what would the germans have done about the over filled camps if not gas them? spose they could continue to let the jews LDAR in the ghetto until more space or camps opened up to put them into.

i think i would've sided with hitler in getting rid of the jews from europe back then, but not gas them. just chuck them on trains to palestine or ships to madagascar. they were ****ing vultures

[Howiester]

The Jews. They did this.

[Eyepoked]

Don't know. Ask my dead relatives from it

[Letthemcome]

Don't know. Ask my dead relatives from it

strong logic

[Ironmanlet]

honestly don't know what to believe anymore. if it's real the way they've ****ed up the information, numbers and evidence has been pathetic. seems like tonnes just died from typhus.

but the jews did slaughter ss guards in rage when the americans freed them at one camp. they were obviously mistreated in some of them, but that was standard wartime behaviour from most of the countries then. and what would the germans have done about the over filled camps if not gas them? spose they could continue to let the jews LDAR in the ghetto until more space or camps opened up to put them into.

i think i would've sided with hitler in getting rid of the jews from europe back then, but not gas them. just chuck them on trains to palestine or ships to madagascar. they were ****ing vultures

>justifying gas chambers and mass killing because reasons
>blatant bigot

[Polaris]

Fake as far as the "6 million" and the gassing and organized slaughter type shyt. Jews were put into camps though obviously, and obviously some did die from Typhus and starvation after the allies kept bombing the German supply lines.

Not anything even remotely close to how many died in the Russian Gulags. Lets not forget how Eisenhower put a bunch of Germans in camps post war and basically let them starve to death as well.

[Letthemcome]

>justifying gas chambers and mass killing because reasons
>blatant bigot

showers for typhus
and it's been proven some of the 'chimneys' were built after the war which should make you extremely suspicious

don't get mad just because i question something.

[Devils]

people die without water in 3 days , where the gas chambers just for weapons testing?

[NZtitan]

At the end of the day OP we will NEVER know truly what went on, the same goes for 9/11 and various other controversial historical events. The public will never know everything about as, bouts of information could of been potentially withheld, etc.

With that being said, the winner of the war wrights the books. The best we can do, is to make sense of the situation with as wide a lens as possible.

Where six million Jewish people killed? Probably not.
Where the Nazis a tyrannical force of mass evil, while the allies where complete saints? Again no.

There is two sides to every story.

[Poonti]

came in expecting LinuxBrah

[fulloffat]

confirmed production made at same studio as men landing on the moon.

[xavengedx23]

The truth lies somewhere in the middle

[Sw|ft]

The holocaust was real, the number of deaths is fake. The amount of people they claim died was like 1/8th the earths population back then. Fuk out of here.

[fulloffat]

srs though nazi's were notorious about paper trails and tracking labor. documents found for final solution meetings, jews were assigned to operate the gas chambers, witnesses, paper trail of trials of other methods including moving trucks, (smaller above ground with exhaust piped into building), paper trail of zyklon b purchases thru IG Farben.

It wasn't by visible evidence alone.
Wasn't just Jews either. They pretty much hated everyone. Gypsies, gay, mentally retarded, black, got into Germans of mixed race. Considered Poles and Russians subhuman.

[kaiserchieftan]

Ban this trash

[BaconEggs]

I read an interview with Albert Speer once where he claimed the top Nazi regime took revenge on the jewish inmates in the camps as a result of the civilian Allied bombings. Because of course they believed the international jews being behind the allied war effort. However it still doesn't prove the entire ''killing factory'' theory.

[TexasMajor]

Negging on recharge

[Getter_done]

It says op is 26, most likely he is an edgy teenager.

[Letthemcome]

srs though nazi's were notorious about paper trails and tracking labor. documents found for final solution meetings, jews were assigned to operate the gas chambers, witnesses, paper trail of trials of other methods including moving trucks, (smaller above ground with exhaust piped into building), paper trail of zyklon b purchases thru IG Farben.

It wasn't by visible evidence alone.
Wasn't just Jews either. They pretty much hated everyone. Gypsies, gay, mentally retarded, black, got into Germans of mixed race. Considered Poles and Russians subhuman.

the holocaust disbelievers say zyklon b is for typhus. they also say there's no paper evidence at all, but if there is i suppose they would just say the jewmericans made it up afterwards because they never just release those types of documents to the public asap, has to be declassified. But they also claimed that despite the fact the allies broke the german code and have recorded transmissions between auschwitz and other places, they never mentioned anything about gas chambers.. doesn't prove anything but it's another tick in the disbelievers box.

and lol at peasant miscers getting mad. i never said i don't believe or do. my stance is simply i don't know.

[madeinoregon]

the **** is with all these bait threads lately?

[Jattfusion]

op ur fukin dumb, stop being a btich ass conspiray theorist.
**** happened, and just live with it by moving on to the future

[Millington]

The Nazi's kept records, they have census information about the number of Jews prior to/post WW2, confirmation provided Germans (from eichmann to camp guards), the mountains of corpses and seas of ash witnessed by Allied soldiers, etc. The biggest misconception seems to be that only 6 million Jews died in the camps when in fact 11 million jews, slavs, Pols, and other 'undesirables' perished.

[20Mavs11]

yeah, i dont' believe it was possible to gas/burn that many people 24/7. Not saying it didn't happen, but not 6 million jews.

[Psyllius]

It happened.

Prob not as bad as they make it out to be but still bad.

[Millington]

yeah, i dont' believe it was possible to gas/burn that many people 24/7. Not saying it didn't happen, but not 6 million jews.

Why exactly? Drawing on what expertise?

[Footzy]

Yes. It happened. 6 million jews and 5 million gypsies, slavics, mentally ill and political dissidents were killed in some manner in various camps. The type of people that deny the holocaust are always anti- American, anti-West, pro russia/Iran and unemployed or minimum wage, drug addicts and living at moms house well into adulthood. Autistics.

[Footzy]

Fake as far as the "6 million" and the gassing and organized slaughter type shyt. Jews were put into camps though obviously, and obviously some did die from Typhus and starvation after the allies kept bombing the German supply lines.

Not anything even remotely close to how many died in the Russian Gulags. Lets not forget how Eisenhower put a bunch of Germans in camps post war and basically let them starve to death as well.

Good that General Eisenhower made germans suffer. They declared war on America and killed Americans. Also General Eisenhower made sure American troops saw the camps because he correctly knew that people would show up claiming it never happened.

[momason]

fake. it was created to distract people from the real reason why hitler started WW2. central banking.

[Better Unborn]

It's almost always a mix of both.

I'm guessing that it did happen... but also inflated for political gains.

(in on console's thread)

[BrahPlease]

it did happen, but the total death count is questionable (ranges from 250k-6million) and a lot of the "facts" are clearly outright lies.

here are some basic facts, theirs no point talking about everything because its already all available

- their was no gas chambers, the non functional "chimney" and " roof hatches" were added after the war and, thats a known fact. no traces of chemicals in the chambers too.
- the zyklon b chit was cuz the massive typhus epidemic in europe
- most of the dead bodies you see in pictures are from people dying at the end/after the war due to typhus and starvation from cut off supply lines
- the "6 million" thing has been going on since 1919 when jews claim 6 million jews died during other conflicts too before wwii and that it takes 6 million deaths for them to get a "homeland" or some biblical chit....such a strange coincidence the magic 6 million....
- also just the fact that its illegal in many countires to question their "facts" clearly shows something is BS, am i right?
- why is the jewish holocaust pushed so much? goddamn lol, just for comparison 30 million slavics dies in wwii, never any mention of them? i dont care who you are, everyone is equal in my eyes.

i just look at chit objectively, idc about pushing anything.