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    More carbs, less fat?

    I understand protein and fat have minimums and carbs do not. Because of this my carb consumption has been relatively low lately. I've also hear that your body can get by with lower fat intake for short periods. My thought is to have high carb/low fat days, mixed with days where fat minimums are met (maybe shoot for .5g p/lb rather than .4g p/lb on these days) but low carb like I have been doing. I love protein foods and they seem to be more satiating than carbs do. Let's say 4 days a week I would meet my fat minimum but the other 3 I would not. Anyone see this being an issue? Even if I over shoot my fat minimum the days I do meet it?
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    Here's an alternative: eat what ever you're in the mood for and let everything fall in it's place. Just make sure your minimums are met.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Here's an alternative: eat what ever you're in the mood for and let everything fall in it's place. Just make sure your minimums are met.
    Mrpb, you seem a credible source I see your posts all over the forum. Sometimes I'm in the mood to eat more carbs but meeting my fat minimum keeps me from that which is why I was considering what I proposed in my opening post. You're saying hit my minimum everyday?
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    Originally Posted by CasnOwns View Post
    Mrpb, you seem a credible source I see your posts all over the forum. Sometimes I'm in the mood to eat more carbs but meeting my fat minimum keeps me from that which is why I was considering what I proposed in my opening post. You're saying hit my minimum everyday?
    You should always hit a minimum of 0.4 gram per lb for fats.

    As you said, there's no minimum for carbs. 0 is your minimum.

    How many calories are you eating? What are your macros?
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    You should always hit a minimum of 0.4 gram per lb for fats.

    As you said, there's no minimum for carbs. 0 is your minimum.

    How many calories are you eating? What are your macros?
    I guess I'm still trying to figure it all out. Tdee calculators place me at 2400+ I typically don't get there every day. Closer to 2200 most days. Sometimes just 2000. I only recently (within 2-3weeks ago) learned about minimums. I'm about 140lbs so I've been hitting 56g fat and close to ~300g protein. I know I don't need that much protein but I love the taste of protein rich foods. I've stopped using my protein powder because I felt like it was extra calories being consumed that I didn't need. My carb consumption is usually between 100-125g.
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    Originally Posted by CasnOwns View Post
    I guess I'm still trying to figure it all out. Tdee calculators place me at 2400+ I typically don't get there every day. Closer to 2200 most days. Sometimes just 2000. I only recently (within 2-3weeks ago) learned about minimums. I'm about 140lbs so I've been hitting 56g fat and close to ~300g protein. I know I don't need that much protein but I love the taste of protein rich foods. I've stopped using my protein powder because I felt like it was extra calories being consumed that I didn't need. My carb consumption is usually between 100-125g.
    Good job on quitting the protein powder.

    Your protein should be at least 108 gram per day, at least 54 gram fat. The rest of calories as you wish.

    However, consuming 300 gram protein per day will likely make it harder to gain weight. I suggest around 200 grams or lower. I expect extra carbs and fat will make it easier to perform in the gym.

    A high protein to carbs and fat ratio can lower testosterone. This has been shown in studies.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Good job on quitting the protein powder.

    Your protein should be at least 108 gram per day, at least 54 gram fat. The rest of calories as you wish.

    However, consuming 300 gram protein per day will likely make it harder to gain weight. I suggest around 200 grams or lower. I expect extra carbs and fat will make it easier to perform in the gym.

    A high protein to carbs and fat ratio can lower testosterone. This has been shown in studies.
    Interesting. I hadn't heard testosterone could be lowered with high protein intake. I lost 30lbs in the last 12 months. Cardio and protein seemingly were the driving force behind that. So I'll lower protein, maybe match it with carbs gram for gram and leave room for some extra fat too. Appreciate the feedback Mrpb.
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    Originally Posted by CasnOwns View Post
    Interesting. I hadn't heard testosterone could be lowered with high protein intake. I lost 30lbs in the last 12 months. Cardio and protein seemingly were the driving force behind that. So I'll lower protein, maybe match it with carbs gram for gram and leave room for some extra fat too. Appreciate the feedback Mrpb.
    You're welcome. For a slow lean bulk I suggest gaining 1-2 pounds per month. More isn't necessary and will lead to more fat gains.

    PS. it's not really high protein that lowers testosterone, it's high protein at the expense of carbs and fats that can lower testosterone (which you were doing).
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