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    Best whey protein?

    My son is into wrestling and his coach wants him to do some body building and get on a program over the summer with some Whey Protein isolate.. In your opinion.. what is the best quality and the best tasting one out there? There are so many and I am totally confused.
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    What way to buy is a little detail that you shouldn't sweat too hard.

    Optimum nutrition makes good producuts
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/whey.html


    As does Scivation (though they aren't mostly isolate like you asked)
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/whey.html

    There's a supplement section here where your question could be better adressed, I'd post this same thread there if I was you:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1


    My advice, instead of buying a fancy expensive protein powder, use that saved money on food, and buy one of those two listed, simple is best
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    Originally Posted by cheri View Post
    My son is into wrestling and his coach wants him to do some body building and get on a program over the summer with some Whey Protein isolate.. In your opinion.. what is the best quality and the best tasting one out there? There are so many and I am totally confused.
    Eggs, meat, milk products- those are your protein sources.
    A powder won't do anything if the diet isn't in check and the most important thing is to eat good "normal" foods. Don't really need a powder.
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    In my opinion protein is protein at the end of the day. Buy the cheapest for the most you can get and save yourself a few bucks. The only difference between them is the brand name you see on the container it comes in.
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    I'd just get the cheapest honestly the difference is not that big.
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    I'm currently paying $12.34/kg for my whey protein concentrate which I buy in 20kg bags. Buying meat, eggs or any other source of protein is money down the drain compared to whey protein concentrate here in Australia.

    I would recommend you buy your son a 1-5kg (2.2-11lb) bag of unflavored whey protein concentrate if you don't want to go all out and buy a 50lg bag. Buy it from folks that sell the 50lb bags direct from the manufacturer since they usually just repackage the whey from a 50lb bag without any fillers (hopefully).

    The only ingredients should be whey protein concentrate and soy lecithin.

    Don't pay extra for whey protein isolate it is a gimmick.

    The fancy stuff is a total waste of money. There is nothing magical about whey protein so paying is just luxury.

    Also you'll want to experiment with adding other ingredients like cocoa to the protein shake since whey does not taste very nice on it's own.

    On a side note, since you mentioned it was recommended he do some "bodybuilding" let him know about Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe, that will be a good start.

    Edit: The Optimum nutrition whey when bought in 10lb is not as expensive as I thought it would be.
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    Originally Posted by Heavy_Beats View Post
    I'm currently paying $12.34/kg for my whey protein concentrate which I buy in 20kg bags. Buying meat, eggs or any other source of protein is money down the drain compared to whey protein concentrate here in Australia.

    I would recommend you buy your son a 1-5kg (2.2-11lb) bag of unflavored whey protein concentrate if you don't want to go all out and buy a 50lg bag. Buy it from folks that sell the 50lb bags direct from the manufacturer since they usually just repackage the whey from a 50lb bag without any fillers (hopefully).

    The only ingredients should be whey protein concentrate and soy lecithin.

    Don't pay extra for whey protein isolate it is a gimmick.

    The fancy stuff is a total waste of money. There is nothing magical about whey protein so paying is just luxury.

    Also you'll want to experiment with adding other ingredients like cocoa to the protein shake since whey does not taste very nice on it's own.

    On a side note, since you mentioned it was recommended he do some "bodybuilding" let him know about Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe, that will be a good start.

    Edit: The Optimum nutrition whey when bought in 10lb is not as expensive as I thought it would be.

    no no no no don't eat soy... you'll get bitch tits... seriously soy raises estrogen
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    i like protein from www.rxwhey.com

    very very affordable, pharmaceutical grade all made in the usa, no ripoff cheap ingredients from overseas.
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    Originally Posted by sammers62 View Post
    no no no no don't eat soy... you'll get bitch tits... seriously soy raises estrogen
    Sorry, but you, sir, are wrong. It may or may not raise estrogen levels, but taking in some soy is good for you, even men. AND soy lecithin is not in any foods in a high enough level to do anything to you.

    Before spouting off your bro-science, do some real research!!
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    Originally Posted by olyw8lifter View Post
    Sorry, but you, sir, are wrong. It may or may not raise estrogen levels, but taking in some soy is good for you, even men. AND soy lecithin is not in any foods in a high enough level to do anything to you.

    Before spouting off your bro-science, do some real research!!
    I don't know what the hell you're talking about and i obviously don't know what i'm talking about.

    http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/10/3/179.full

    There are millions of articles on google scholar saying soy will raise estrdiol? (E1) levels.
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    Originally Posted by sammers62 View Post
    I don't know what the hell you're talking about and i obviously don't know what i'm talking about.

    http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/10/3/179.full

    There are millions of articles on google scholar saying soy will raise estrdiol? (E1) levels.
    My bad, you got me there!! However, I stand by what I said about soy lecithin. In most cases, there is not enough to equal the amount of soy tested in your posted study. The studies mostly talk about soy milk and soy beans.

    There are other studies out there that show small to moderate amounts of soy do not cause any effects on men's estrogen levels, though.
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    i get the least amount of protein farts from a good isolate / hydrolysate blend, which is why i like rxwhey's pro blend. the vanilla tastes pretty good and is cheap. cheap is like the most important thing.
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    Originally Posted by olyw8lifter View Post
    My bad, you got me there!! However, I stand by what I said about soy lecithin. In most cases, there is not enough to equal the amount of soy tested in your posted study. The studies mostly talk about soy milk and soy beans.

    There are other studies out there that show small to moderate amounts of soy do not cause any effects on men's estrogen levels, though.
    I refuse to touch anything soy but soy lecithin

    Its not ideal, but its a hit you have to take if you want to take any whey on the planet pretty much, so I agree with the sentiment that its best to worry about other things, not the soy lecithin in your whey
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    I refuse to touch anything soy but soy lecithin

    Its not ideal, but its a hit you have to take if you want to take any whey on the planet pretty much, so I agree with the sentiment that its best to worry about other things, not the soy lecithin in your whey
    I guess I've never put much faith in these type of studies. Most of them have the subjects taking much more soy than the average person (not all of them, I know), and then it seems like although they see a change in the ratio of hormone levels, it's really not much to do anything noticeable. I'm not in here to start an argument on soy and whether or not it really does anything appreciable when you take it, I personally don't care!!
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    Ideally you would be getting the correct ammount of protein in your diet. Same for all your macro/micro but realistically you will probably have to supplement somewhere. Protein though should be easy to hit if he likes milk/chicken/cow.
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    food during the day and casien at night!!! gotta have the night time protien. dont let him starve over night
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    Originally Posted by gbg View Post
    this stuff is pretty good, we have the chocolate and the lemonade, both flavors are excellent. I had my doubts about a lemon flavored protein, but its very good.

    One protein that I especially like is Nature's Best Isopure http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nb...ctisopure.html

    the unflavored is excellent because you can mix it with anything (vanilla or chocolate flavors can get boring, and you're limited to mixing with water or milk usually). I have mixed this with juice, milk, pasta sauce, and probably a bunch of other ridiculous combinations. Saw my best gains with pretty much zero side effects with this stuff. You will notice the only ingredients are protein too.

    I have the apple melon flavor now, and its not that great tbh. I usually mix it 2 scoops with 1c orange juice and 1c water.
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    Originally Posted by slowman41 View Post
    this stuff is pretty good, we have the chocolate and the lemonade, both flavors are excellent. I had my doubts about a lemon flavored protein, but its very good.

    One protein that I especially like is Nature's Best Isopure http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nb...ctisopure.html

    the unflavored is excellent because you can mix it with anything (vanilla or chocolate flavors can get boring, and you're limited to mixing with water or milk usually). I have mixed this with juice, milk, pasta sauce, and probably a bunch of other ridiculous combinations. Saw my best gains with pretty much zero side effects with this stuff. You will notice the only ingredients are protein too.

    I have the apple melon flavor now, and its not that great tbh. I usually mix it 2 scoops with 1c orange juice and 1c water.
    Yes it is, But I prefer the ultra peptide formula, sounds like you're talking about the whey.
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    Originally Posted by gbg View Post
    Yes it is, But I prefer the ultra peptide formula, sounds like you're talking about the whey.
    yeah, the ultra peptide whey. I now see that your link is the casein stuff

    speaking of xf though, that "ICE" bcaa product they have looks promising.
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    Originally Posted by slowman41 View Post
    yeah, the ultra peptide whey. I now see that your link is the casein stuff

    speaking of xf though, that "ICE" bcaa product they have looks promising.
    Yeah, the grape is good.
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    I would buy the ones with the least hidden stuff in them and isolates or hydrolysates.

    or have him eat egg whites and milk instead.
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    Originally Posted by cheri View Post
    My son is into wrestling and his coach wants him to do some body building and get on a program over the summer with some Whey Protein isolate.. In your opinion.. what is the best quality and the best tasting one out there? There are so many and I am totally confused.

    Raw Organic Whey is the highest quality whey protein on the market
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    chicken breasts and whole milk

    if hes a wrestler and wants to put on mass and strength he doesnt necessarily need a lot of protein, he needs calories.
    This means he should drink whole milk and eat a lot of good sources of protein and fats like meat, fish nuts etc


    Whey and other protein supplements are designed for low caloric diets.
    To cut fat and maintain lean body mass protein supplements can give you the necessary proteins while having very little calories.

    your son however a lot of calories to put on mass!
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    Originally Posted by organicathlete View Post
    Raw Organic Whey is the highest quality whey protein on the market
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