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    Originally Posted by 128 View Post
    Hulk can be defeated/incapacitated but he can not be killed

    Broly had a hole punched through him which Hulk would have regenerated from, and If I'm not mistaken the Kamehameha pushed him into the sun, but it looked like the sun was what actually killed him, a planet exploding does not match the heat from going through the sun...not only that but a couple DBZ characters have been cut in half/impaled and died, I remember Gohan was running away from that Dinosaur thing saying it was going to eat him and in one of the movies someone makes a poison that can kill Saiyans, not to mention they've all died before, A Special Beam Cannon put a hole through Goku (I know he wasnt SSJ) but that wouldnt even phase the Hulk, really we've discussed this and Saiyans cant win if its an actual fight to the death
    Many holes, disfigurations and maiming would occur to Huk, resulted by large blasts to finally incinerate him. Lettuce be reality now, Gogeta at full-power would toy with Hulk. Look what he did to a lower tier reality warper? Totally annihilated him. Hulk just doesn't posess that kind of power, you're basically saying he's immortal. Which there is no scientific proof from the authors that suggest this.

    Saiyans don't have a flaw like Kryptonite to Superman. You're talking about the Android Saga, where Goku had a heart infection throughout his immune system and could've died from it, had Future Trunks not given him an antidote years prior.

    No, Saiyans cannot be killed by poison. Neither can Nameks, if you watched the Garlic Jr Saga, everyone who was exposed to the Black Water Mist got possesed except Piccolo and Gohan.
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    I'm so tired of marvel people saying all their character have unlimited power. Ive seen what they can do and they are weak compared to dragon ball z characters.

    garlic Jr was immortal and he got beat up twice and relatively easily.

    Goku and vegeta combined killed a dragon ball dragon which is basically a god.

    marvels character can not touch the dbz characters.
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    Originally Posted by RattTail View Post
    Many holes, disfigurations and maiming would occur to Huk, resulted by large blasts to finally incinerate him. Lettuce be reality now, Gogeta at full-power would toy with Hulk. Look what he did to a lower tier reality warper? Totally annihilated him. Hulk just doesn't posess that kind of power, you're basically saying he's immortal. Which there is no scientific proof from the authors that suggest this.
    Hulk isn't immortal, but he's pretty close. He won't die from aging and his regeneration is broken. Also, what is "lettuce be reality"?

    Originally Posted by RattTail View Post
    Saiyans don't have a flaw like Kryptonite to Superman. You're talking about the Android Saga, where Goku had a heart infection throughout his immune system and could've died from it, had Future Trunks not given him an antidote years prior.
    You are correct. Saiyans don't really have a "weakness"

    Originally Posted by RattTail View Post
    No, Saiyans cannot be killed by poison. Neither can Nameks, if you watched the Garlic Jr Saga, everyone who was exposed to the Black Water Mist got possesed except Piccolo and Gohan.
    Well you're referencing filler and movies which are non canon. That's fine, but that means Saiyans are affected by poison. In Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans, Dr. Raichii's gas nearly kills all of the Z fighters if not for the counter agent released by Bulma.
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    Originally Posted by Emperiorjack View Post
    I'm so tired of marvel people saying all their character have unlimited power. Ive seen what they can do and they are weak compared to dragon ball z characters.
    Technically the Hulk does have unlimited power. It gets stronger as he gets angrier, and he has no limit to his anger.

    Originally Posted by Emperiorjack View Post
    garlic Jr was immortal and he got beat up twice and relatively easily.
    Well that's non canon, but I still don't see your point

    Originally Posted by Emperiorjack View Post
    Goku and vegeta combined killed a dragon ball dragon which is basically a god.
    GT. Irrelevant.

    Originally Posted by Emperiorjack View Post
    marvels character can not touch the dbz characters.
    Dragon Ball characters aren't as strong as you think.
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    INB4 captain ginyu possesses hulk's body and commits suicide for the lulz.
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    I have never seen hulk lift boulders off the ground just by powering up. Ive never seen him move so fast that he becomes invisible. Never seen him shoot a power blast.


    Hulk is a pussy
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    Originally Posted by ericescobar15 View Post
    INB4 captain ginyu possesses hulk's body and commits suicide for the lulz.
    Ha, that would be funny. Ginyu wouldn't be able to kill himself though, and I wonder if body switch would work
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    Originally Posted by RattTail View Post
    Saiyans don't have a flaw like Kryptonite to Superman.
    Just wanted to point out that saiyans DO have a "flaw": They can only stay in their top tier form for a certain period of time (unless it is Broly, who actually gets stronger the longer he is in SS form).

    With the shear ludicrous amount of power given to Hulk, he is unstoppable. At best there would be a stalemate. A wish with the dragonballs wouldn't work to subdue him as a dragon can only fulfill a wish within his power (aaaand I'm pretty sure the all-powerful Hulk would be beyond their means).


    @ the guys arguing that Broly wasn't killed by the sun: He was. The wave only pushed him into the sun, it was the star's power that killed him.

    But he used to play in lava? So the f*ck what? Do you realize just how much more hot a star is? And if the heat wouldn't kill him, the radiation would (can't stop DNA mutation and dissintegration as a SS).


    I'm saying this as a DBZ fan BTW. I think Marvel comics have just gotten retarded. Hulk eating Galactus and thus gaining his ability to warp reality? F*cking stupid. At least DBZ has some sense of logic.


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    GT. Irrelevant.
    It in fact is. GT is part of the DBZ universe.
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    Originally Posted by RattTail View Post
    Many holes, disfigurations and maiming would occur to Huk, resulted by large blasts to finally incinerate him. Lettuce be reality now, Gogeta at full-power would toy with Hulk. Look what he did to a lower tier reality warper? Totally annihilated him. Hulk just doesn't posess that kind of power, you're basically saying he's immortal. Which there is no scientific proof from the authors that suggest this.

    Saiyans don't have a flaw like Kryptonite to Superman. You're talking about the Android Saga, where Goku had a heart infection throughout his immune system and could've died from it, had Future Trunks not given him an antidote years prior.

    No, Saiyans cannot be killed by poison. Neither can Nameks, if you watched the Garlic Jr Saga, everyone who was exposed to the Black Water Mist got possesed except Piccolo and Gohan.
    The authors have said and suggested that Hulk mutates to survive, his regenerative keep him from getting suffering much damage or getting killed, and he resistant to nearly every attack that would/has killed Saiyans

    Yes Saiyans can be killed by poison, in one of the movies there was a poison released that would kill humans quickly but in a couple months would kill all Saiyans as well, there were other times too, Saiyans dont have a particular weakness but they have died/can be killed by things that can not kill the Hulk

    Edit: Yeah it was the sun that actually killed Broly, Hulk has been hit with greater heat than that and was un phased
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    Originally Posted by Deevious View Post
    It in fact is. GT is part of the DBZ universe.
    GT is non canon and has no bearing on the Dragon Ball universe
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    Originally Posted by PottyPop View Post
    GT is non canon and has no bearing on the Dragon Ball universe
    By what definition? He didn't write the series, that is correct, but he was strictly involved with the series production.

    Does that then mean canon, by definition, requires the original creator/author to directly write that series themselves? In that case, which versions of Hulk are strictly canon (meaning that both Lee and Kirby wrote each issue together)?
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    Originally Posted by Deevious View Post
    By what definition? He didn't write the series, that is correct, but he was strictly involved with the series production.

    Does that then mean canon, by definition, requires the original creator/author to directly write that series themselves? In that case, which versions of Hulk are strictly canon (meaning that both Lee and Kirby wrote each issue together)?
    Canon is the canon medium. Anime is not the canon medium for Dragon Ball. The Incredible Hulk movies aren't canon to Hulk, just as GT and the Movies aren't canon to DB. I don't make the rules.
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    And who said Hulk was slow? didnt he keep up Quicksilver

    Lol @ people saying a blast from a DBZ character would kill the Hulk, he has taken that and more and did not linch, I really dont see how he could lose but this thread will happen again and 90% of people will say Saiyans win having little knowledge of what the Hulk is capable of
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    Originally Posted by 128 View Post
    And who said Hulk was slow? didnt he keep up Quicksilver

    Lol @ people saying a blast from a DBZ character would kill the Hulk, he has taken that and more and did not linch, I really dont see how he could lose but this thread will happen again and 90% of people will say Saiyans win having little knowledge of what the Hulk is capable of
    That's true for both sides sadly.

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    The hulk being immortal is irrelevant. Goku can just grab the Hulk and teleport him to another planet, nobody dies and its all good nomsayin.
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    Originally Posted by Synchronous View Post
    The hulk being immortal is irrelevant. Goku can just grab the Hulk and teleport him to another planet, nobody dies and its all good nomsayin.
    Instant Transmission isn't the same as teleporting. Goku would need to locate a ki signature, which he has trouble doing if it isn't earth. Hulk would tear Goku apart if he got that close.
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    Originally Posted by 128 View Post
    Hulk is immortal and becomes stronger the madder he gets while DBZ guys can die from poison, impalement, decapitation, extreme temperatures etc.

    Hulk wins

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    What the Hulk can do/Why they cant beat him

    http://www.bamkapow.com/the-incredib...ts-1399-p.html

    their blasts wont do ****
    Stfu, you thought the Pats were gonna win and they didnt.

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    Stfu, you thought the Pats were gonna win and they didnt.

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    Read through like page 6. best idea ever was letting buu absorb all the strongest fighters at their powered up states.


    128, you can't pick a different hulk for every situation. original, normal hulk versus the dbz-verse, having buu absorb all fighters, hulk dies. your only source is that one website with the top 11 things hulk did or whatever. doesn't say he's immortal. if he was immortal he wouldn't be able to be damaged at all.
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    Majin Buu turns him into candy and eats him.


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    As I said earlier I'm pretty sure Hulk is resistant to change in matter
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    What does 'Lettuce be reality' mean?
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    How do people really think that the hulk can beat the whole DBZ universe?

    So many ways they could end him

    Brb destructo disk

    Brb Majin buu turns him into candy and eats him

    Brb they have 1 month until he comes so they gather the dragonballs and when he comes, they wish for him to be gone.

    Brb Broly

    Brb Super Saiyan 4

    Brb Fusion

    Brb Master Roshi could kill him
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    This thread cant be serous

    Hulk would rape them with ease
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    Originally Posted by WheyTooDiesel View Post
    How do people really think that the hulk can beat the whole DBZ universe?

    So many ways they could end him

    Brb destructo disk
    That would probably not work. If it did cut through Hulk he would regenerate.

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    Brb Majin buu turns him into candy and eats him
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    Brb they have 1 month until he comes so they gather the dragonballs and when he comes, they wish for him to be gone.
    The Dragon can't remove a threat more powerful than himself

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    Brb Broly
    A movie character who is weaker than Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Buu, Cell, Gotenks, etc???

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    Brb Super Saiyan 4
    Technically speaking this isn't one of Goku's or Vegeta's forms

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    Brb Fusion
    Might help

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    Brb Master Roshi could kill him
    I appreciate debating, but don't be silly just because you're biased.
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    Originally Posted by Vindicate View Post
    This thread cant be serous

    Hulk would rape them with ease
    What makes you say that? How can we be sure that Buu wouldn't absorb him?
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    Originally Posted by Father of Cajun View Post
    Read through like page 6. best idea ever was letting buu absorb all the strongest fighters at their powered up states.


    128, you can't pick a different hulk for every situation. original, normal hulk versus the dbz-verse, having buu absorb all fighters, hulk dies. your only source is that one website with the top 11 things hulk did or whatever. doesn't say he's immortal. if he was immortal he wouldn't be able to be damaged at all.
    Immortal does not mean he can not be damaged it means he can not be killed, and the comparison of DBZ with a comic book character, any character, you'd have to choose between different ones, pretty much they're all the same Hulk when you take their abilities/what they can and cant do, just like that site did

    And that is not my only source, try looking it up, Hulk is resistant to just about everything Buu's attacks would not make a difference

    Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #428

    While in a swamp, the Merged Hulk is going through a mental crisis, actually causing the Hulk to temporarily be afraid. The Man-Thing senses the fear and touches the Hulk and whoever knows fear, burns at the touch of the Man-Thing. Normally a person would just go up in flames immediately and die but the Hulk just has a slight burn on top of his head and nothing else.
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