Boxers Don't Use Weights? Why!!

[monatu]

who the **** said they dont do weights....even ****ing tennis players do weights these days

[TSRBlog]

A lot of them do incorporate some form of weight training in there training.

e.g.

Ricky Hatton

BB.com interview with Ricky Hatton

[ KG ] Does your weight training program generally recommend you work with heavy weights with low repetitions, or do you lean towards lighter weights assisted with higher reps?

[ RH ] I train with heavy weights and lower reps. I only train one body part once a week and I work with weights four times a week.

o Monday we will do legs.
o Tuesday we'll do shoulders.
o Wednesday we will do back.
o Friday we'll do chest and that's it really.

Many people like to train with lighter weights very fast and in a very explosive manner, but I don't feel that this is building power.

It only enables you to move light weights very quickly by getting assistance from other muscle groups. I find that I have always got to fail at the conclusion of my sets in order to get stronger. My workouts are short, explosive but are controlled and I only work one body part per week.

[ KG ] Does Kerry train you within the 8-12 rep range?

[ RH ] Yeah, reps of ten. Because we only train one body part at a time, and it is heavy and explosive, it only lasts for about twenty minutes. It's very intense.

There are a few videos of Roy Jones Jr in the weights room like these ones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3z7LZjmXTw (light weight training at 4.45)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oYj3zWKCJU (powercleans and lat pulldowns at 4.00)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrHydFIwfBo (leg extensions and incline DB press at 0.50)

There are a decent number of reports mentioning Floyd Mayweather incorporating weight training in his fight preparation if you run a quick google search.

etc.

[Kiknskreem]

professional boxing is an endurance event

A marathon is an endurance event.

Boxing is a series of short bursts.

Anerobic conditioning is just as important.

http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym21.htm

[1QWIK7]

wtf, you saying "most" doesn't make any difference to you claiming that someone was "exactly right" when saying lifting weight decreases speed and that non-weight training exercises built fast twitch fibres the best. I seriously can't believe you're still trying to claim otherwise and backpeddling on your original bul****

Correction, i said exactly THIS.

And "most" was the KEYWORD. Thats why i added in that word.

Not my fault you disect my posts to try to make your statements unflawed.

You had facts and so did i.

Simple as that.

[cardioman_23]

A marathon is an endurance event.

Boxing is a series of short bursts.

Anerobic conditioning is just as important.

http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym21.htm

^this, although u still need phenomonal endurance compared to average person for boxing

[itsMoeyy]

op is a *******

[Kiknskreem]

So you're saying lifting massive weights will improve fast twitch muscle fibers??

Lol, this guy is so ignorant.

[fatesuxaz]

im a boxer and my take is this.. you have to have the endurance. if you get stronger in the weight room, thats great, but you still need to be active for many rounds. you can't lay back and only punch when you feel like it, it's better to be very active and throw lots of punches.

some fighters like james toney, can win fights in terrible shape because of his skills. but if manny pacquiao was fat and slow he would get knocked the **** out fast.

ive been gaining weight for a while.. and after gaining 10-20 lbs of pure muscle it's hard getting back into that kind of conditioning. you can't just train your ass off, it takes time.

i do think weights increase punching power though. ANYWAYS, yes weights are good as long as you still have good stamina. at the same time, all that time in the weight room could be used on something else like stamina and skills. stamina is something nobody really has TOO much off. at the end of the 12th round, if the other guy can't hold his arms up and you're jumping around like pacquiao, he's done for. being much stronger won't necessarily mean he's done for.

[MaximusPlatypus]

phuk mind=blown the wonders of celltech, he wouldnt have weighed more than 155lbs there

closer to 125lbs.. he was 5'5 and weighed like 185 in this pic:

[roms15]

bro im an amateur boxer, and let me tell you this

i wish that i never ever lifted weights, im trying to lose all my muscle mass right now by not lifting and eating much less..

i have to make a certain weight requirement, because height/reach/weight play a big factor in bouts,

also you move quicker with less muscle

[eazy e 123]

op u retarded?

pretty sure they all do weights

shane mosely is ridiculously strong in the gym

[roms15]

op u retarded?

pretty sure they all do weights

shane mosely is ridiculously strong in the gym

lmao, lifting weights for boxing is a waste of time

[eazy e 123]

lmao, lifting weights for boxing is a waste of time

how so

sprinters lift weights in order to improve their fast twitch muscle fibres and make them faster

surely boxers would benefit from this too?

[soundcheck]

i trained in boxing from ages 13-17 and the only weightlifting my trainer would let me do were VERY light weight exercises with high reps

anyone who's done boxing before will agree that it's harder to be quick and explosive in the ring if you weigh more...i mean, more muscle mass sounds good in paper but once you're on the ring/training it's a different story

[WeighIn]

bro im an amateur boxer, and let me tell you this

i wish that i never ever lifted weights, im trying to lose all my muscle mass right now by not lifting and eating much less..

i have to make a certain weight requirement, because height/reach/weight play a big factor in bouts,

also you move quicker with less muscle

ok so your listed at 5'10" 190, and your trying to lose muscle for boxing, sounds like a stupid idea to me, now maybe if you were trying to lose bodyfat that might make your statement more credible but you said muscle so loss of all credibility! why the fuk would you want to lose muscle?!

btw, mike tyson was one of the best boxers of all time in his prime, he was 5'11 218 and heard he was a beast on the weights, i wonder how good he would of been if he lost 30+ pounds of muscle, too bad he didn't go that route like you are, but then again thats why your an amateur and he was one of the best ever

yourdoingitwrong.mp4

[Kiknskreem]

bro im an amateur boxer, and let me tell you this

i wish that i never ever lifted weights, im trying to lose all my muscle mass right now by not lifting and eating much less..

i have to make a certain weight requirement, because height/reach/weight play a big factor in bouts,

also you move quicker with less muscle

Important part in bold.

Weight training does not make you gain weight. Weight training with a caloric surplus does.

[Kiknskreem]

lmao, lifting weights for boxing is a waste of time

Did yo 60 year old coach tell you this?

What kind of athlete still believes this in 2011?


The relative importance of strength training is different from sport to sport, but all things being equal, the stronger more powerful athlete is the better athlete.

[ChadDawson]

weights make you slow and tight/unathletic. two of the worse things imaginable for a boxer

[eazy e 123]

excess muscle mass makes you slow and tight/unathletic. two of the worse things imaginable for a boxer

fixed

go tell usain bolt he's slow and unathletic because he does weights

[Kiknskreem]

anyone who's done boxing before will agree that it's harder to be quick and explosive in the ring if you weigh more...i mean, more muscle mass sounds good in paper but once you're on the ring/training it's a different story

Adding strength and adding muscle mass are two different things.

You can gain strength and maintain bodyweight.... that increases your relative power.

[Kiknskreem]

weights make you slow and tight/unathletic. two of the worse things imaginable for a boxer

Where do all you guys come from? Straight from your 1940's gymnasium?

You ever watched Olympic weightliftng?

gtfo.

[stonefacekilla]

oh and OP:

watched a show with him the other day, he only benchs 275 and squats 345 - i thought he would lift more for some reason.

[stonefacekilla]

lmao, lifting weights for boxing is a waste of time

yeah okay buddy

[ShoulderRoll]

ok so your listed at 5'10" 190, and your trying to lose muscle for boxing, sounds like a stupid idea to me, now maybe if you were trying to lose bodyfat that might make your statement more credible but you said muscle so loss of all credibility! why the fuk would you want to lose muscle?!

btw, mike tyson was one of the best boxers of all time in his prime, he was 5'11 218 and heard he was a beast on the weights, i wonder how good he would of been if he lost 30+ pounds of muscle, too bad he didn't go that route like you are, but then again thats why your an amateur and he was one of the best ever

yourdoingitwrong.mp4

except the average person who weighs 190 in boxing is like 6"2

fuking lol @ telling somebody who weighs 190 at only 5'10 that they shouldn't be trying to lose weight if they want to successfully compete. have fun trying to box with your opponents all being 6 inches taller than you.

only a clueless guy who knew nothing about the sport of boxing would try to use mike tyson as an example of the physique and height/weight ratio that boxers should aim for.

how so

sprinters lift weights in order to improve their fast twitch muscle fibres and make them faster

surely boxers would benefit from this too?

why do people keep saying this

sprinting isn't boxing. a 100m sprint last 10 seconds, 12 rounds of boxing lasts 36 minutes - do you really think these events should be trained for in teh same way?

and what are you even talking about "make them faster?". faster at what? boxers donp't sprint round the ring you know so i don't even think you know aht you mean by "make them faster". faster handspeed doesn't have anything to do with weights or strength, the fastest guys are the lightest guys, most of whom have never lifted weights. so wtf are you on about

[ChadDawson]

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go tell usain bolt he's slow and unathletic because he does weights

isnt he a sprinter? and boxers dont need to sprint in a 15ft ring lol what are you on about?

[ChadDawson]

Where do all you guys come from? Straight from your 1940's gymnasium?

You ever watched Olympic weightliftng?

gtfo.

isn't this about boxing? when will a boxer need to start benching in a fight? you guise have no idea about this sport so dont bother brah

[Slovakian_Pride]

coz there's probs not that much carryover from lifting weights.

[cardioman_23]

weights make you slow and tight/unathletic. two of the worse things imaginable for a boxer

i trained in boxing from ages 13-17 and the only weightlifting my trainer would let me do were VERY light weight exercises with high reps

anyone who's done boxing before will agree that it's harder to be quick and explosive in the ring if you weigh more...i mean, more muscle mass sounds good in paper but once you're on the ring/training it's a different story

no u idiot, if you are carrying the weight in fat yes its harder, but muscle no muscle can move very fast has nothing to do with that

ive been boxing for a long time now an with weight training compared to average guys who dont i hit faaar harder an even faster

[Kiknskreem]

isn't this about boxing? when will a boxer need to start benching in a fight? you guise have no idea about this sport so dont bother brah

General strength training is about improving the instrument (the body) through which you express your skill.

Its not about specific, transferrable skills dumbass.

Get a ****ing clue about exercise physiology. You're tlaking to someone who studied kines.


And you said weightlifting makes you slow and unathletic. That is like, 50+ year old broscience.

[seifelbadrawy]

Its seems to me that responders in this thread think that lifting weights and bodybuilding are the same thing...

ALL BOXERS LIFT.. HOWEVER, they're training regimen isn't based on having as much muscle mass and as little bodyfat as possible..AESTHETICS don't win matches. unlike sprinters and bodybuilders.