Here Are Some Real Athletes Doing A Real Sport

[jimbob007]

Not like dem fake rasslers-honestly how can you guys watch dat stuff?

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

Not like dem fake rasslers-honestly how can you guys watch dat stuff?

SIGH and yet Darts is a sport and Pro Wrestling isn't

[Mrs Grudge]

**** just got real

[jimbob007]

It does make you wonder what the geniuses at WCW would have come up with if they had said we want a Mummy monster heel called Kharis. They probably would have sent out somebody dressed as Dracula.

[leogar]

**** just got real

LOL! The Ye-Tay!!!!!

[jimbob007]

[B33f]

Not like dem fake rasslers-honestly how can you guys watch dat stuff?

Edge of my seat just fell off (because I was on it when I watched this)

[War Machine]

Darts is a sport.

Golf is a sport.

Pool is a sport.

Bowling is a sport.

Even EATING is a sport FFS.


I'd put a wrestler against any of them any day.

[DBee]

Wrestling is a sport, just not staged wrestling, that's entertainment -those are actors. That's like calling reality tv shows sports.

[Amra]

Yeah, like there isn't hundreds of fat piles of sh*t on the indie scene that have no business going anywhere near anything that resembles an athletic competition.

If pro wrestling was a sport, those guys would not exist, or at least they would not be considered "professionals." That's the sad part. Any tub of crap who ever landed a ten dollar pay-day can call himself a pro wrestler, because technically he was paid for his work.

[Mrs Grudge]

Yeah, like there isn't hundreds of fat piles of sh*t on the indie scene that have no business going anywhere near anything that resembles an athletic competition.

If pro wrestling was a sport, those guys would not exist, or at least they would not be considered "professionals." That's the sad part. Any tub of crap who ever landed a ten dollar pay-day can call himself a pro wrestler, because technically he was paid for his work.

Well there are plenty of sports where you can just buy a pro license and just get your ass whooped.

[IntensityX]

Farting is a sport.

[bruno]

Whats the stats of that mummy wrestler? Guy had several inches over the big show there

[jimbob007]

It is also a porn fetish.

Farting is a sport.

[jimbob007]

0-0 I think. I believe they realised how bad it was & canned it pretty quick-he was in the battle royal at the next PPV. Then they turned him into some type of ninja character, before he wound up in Raven's group.

Whats the stats of that mummy wrestler? Guy had several inches over the big show there

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

Yeah, like there isn't hundreds of fat piles of sh*t on the indie scene that have no business going anywhere near anything that resembles an athletic competition.

If pro wrestling was a sport, those guys would not exist, or at least they would not be considered "professionals." That's the sad part. Any tub of crap who ever landed a ten dollar pay-day can call himself a pro wrestler, because technically he was paid for his work.

there are alot of overweight and out of shape kids playing minor and even major league pro hockey, football and baseball too. Real pro wrestlers like real athletes take pride in their craft and keep themselves in condition. The rest are weeded out.

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

Wrestling is a sport, just not staged wrestling, that's entertainment -those are actors. That's like calling reality tv shows sports.

Must I really get into this again. Pro wrestling requires athletic skill and conditioning and poses a high risk of injury so yes it is a sport

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

Darts is a sport.

Golf is a sport.

Pool is a sport.

Bowling is a sport.

Even EATING is a sport FFS.


I'd put a wrestler against any of them any day.

I may be biased, but I put a pro wrestler against just about any pro athlete. Not knocking the top athletes in NFL,NHL,UFC,MLB, NBA or any other pro sport. There is a high level of skill and conditioning involved and a risk of (sometimes serious) injury. But they get something we don't ....AN OFF SEASON

[jimbob007]

Exactly. How many times do most name boxers fight per year-2 or 3 perhaps. Same with UFC-sometimes just once. NFL & NHL-wear nice pads to protect them. Then you have to figure in the time getting to towns, arranging rental cars, hotels etc & working out.

I may be biased, but I put a pro wrestler against just about any pro athlete. Not knocking the top athletes in NFL,NHL,UFC,MLB, NBA or any other pro sport. There is a high level of skill and conditioning involved and a risk of (sometimes serious) injury. But they get something we don't ....AN OFF SEASON

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

Exactly. How many times do most name boxers fight per year-2 or 3 perhaps. Same with UFC-sometimes just once.

Ya 3-4 fights/year maybe as opposed to wrestling 4-5 nights/week

NFL & NHL-wear nice pads to protect them.

Exactly, all I have are knee and elbow pads. Don't get me wrong, football and hockey are both rough sports but they play what 2x week maybe???
And they're not falling from 6-12 ft in the air over and over every night
Plus like I said, they have a 4-6 month off season (Superbowl in Feb if they make it that far til training camp begins in what Aug???)

Then you have to figure in the time getting to towns, arranging rental cars, hotels etc & working out.

Thats the worst! Forcing yourself to workout when your body is banged up all the time PLUS Trying to stay in peak condition when you're eating at Denny's at 3 am after a show lol

[pearljamfan]

Wrestling is a sport, just not staged wrestling, that's entertainment -those are actors. That's like calling reality tv shows sports.

well all sports are a form of entertainment, why would fans follow a sport otherwise but to be entertained, you could say pro-wrestling is a form of non-competitive sport, or i have a good one a form of "sports entertainment"

Whats the stats of that mummy wrestler? Guy had several inches over the big show there

ron reis that played yeti was a legit 7'1, he was division 1 ncaa basketball center at the beginning of the 1990s like paul wight

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

well all sports are a form of entertainment, why would fans follow a sport otherwise but to be entertained, you could say pro-wrestling is a form of non-competitive sport, or i have a good one a form of "sports entertainment"

Absolutely! Any sport has to have entertainment value. Otherwise they wouldnt draw the casual fan.
eg. How many sports teams now have entrance music ?

[Mrs Grudge]

Must I really get into this again. Pro wrestling requires athletic skill and conditioning and poses a high risk of injury so yes it is a sport

I respect that you're a Pro Wrestler with often insightful input, but I have to say I've always found it grossly insecure that Pro Wrestling fans insist that wrestling is a sport, and seem to take it as offensive when someone says it is not a sport. I think it is often backlash from the WWE shoving down wrestling fans throats that Pro Wrestling isn't a sports drama anymore, and is instead just a bunch of retarded ****. I personally don't get why Pro Wrestling has to literally be considered a sport for it to be cool, dramatic or entertaining.

As we can see just from Jimbob's example of darts. Aesthetic and cool things like being well conditioned, being able to jump high, having really large muscles and sprint fast are not required attributes in a ton of sports. Pro Wrestling is the a sports drama, a mere fictional exaggeration of Catch Wrestling (which is a legitimate sport) which I'm sure you already know.

That is not to say that one is not athletic if they partake in Pro Wrestling. The sole reason why Pro Wrestling is not a sport is because it is not a game. It is not an actual contest that determines a winner and a loser, merely a drama which tries to emulate that.

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

I respect that you're a Pro Wrestler with often insightful input, but I have to say I've always found it grossly insecure that Pro Wrestling fans insist that wrestling is a sport, and seem to take it as offensive when someone says it is not a sport. I think it is often backlash from the WWE shoving down wrestling fans throats that Pro Wrestling isn't a sports drama anymore, and is instead just a bunch of retarded ****. I personally don't get why Pro Wrestling has to be a sport for it to be cool, dramatic or entertaining.

As we can see just from Jimbob's example of darts. Aesthetic and cool things like being well conditioned, being able to jump high, having really large muscles and sprint fast is not required in a ton of sports. Pro Wrestling is the a sports drama, a mere fictional exaggeration of Catch Wrestling (which is a legitimate sport).

That is not to say that one is not athletic if they partake in Pro Wrestling. The sole reason why Pro Wrestling is not a sport is because it is not a game. It is not an actual contest between a winner or a loser, merely a sports drama which tries to emulate that.

Firstly Darts isnt a sport, its a game. There's no athleticism involved, just the ability to throw straight. Any "sport" you can play while drinking a 6 pack of Bud isn't a sport

Second, Pro wrestling isn't a pure sport, never was, never will be. Its "Sports Entertainment". Then again so is every other PROFESSIONAL sport.
The goal of any sports franchise is to put as many paying customers in the seats as possible, whether its the NBA, the UFC or WWE.
Even at the Olympic level, the big endorsements go to the players that can entertain and draw fans, not necessarily to the best pure athlete.

[mar_angry]

Firstly Darts isnt a sport, its a game. There's no athleticism involved, just the ability to throw straight. Any "sport" you can play while drinking a 6 pack of Bud isn't a sport

Second, Pro wrestling isn't a pure sport, never was, never will be. Its "Sports Entertainment". Then again so is every other PROFESSIONAL sport.
The goal of any sports franchise is to put as many paying customers in the seats as possible, whether its the NBA, the UFC or WWE.
Even at the Olympic level, the big endorsements go to the players that can entertain and draw fans, not necessarily to the best pure athlete.

I didnt think you were actually serious... but here goes...

•A sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive, and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play. It is governed by a set of rules or customs

* Different sports require different skills and techniques. Muscle size, speed, strength are all completely different physical qualities (although some are closely assosiated) that not all sports require.

* By definition, pro wrestling CANNOT be a sport as outcomes are pre-determined. Name one sport where the outcome is pre-determined? Therefore there is no competition. If it were judged on the merit of the wrestlers ability to communicate a story or such then it would still be a staged drama (acting isnt a sport).

* I know that alot of pro wrestlers are stronger, faster and leaner than many other sports people. They are great athletes, there is no denying this. If it were a merit to them then they should use there abilities in another field because they cannot be judged on that in there given proffession.

The one variable of wrestling that would need to be changed to become a sport is to make it so outcomes are determined directly by the skill of the wrestler in the match... pre determined outcomes never work well in regular sports...

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

I didnt think you were actually serious... but here goes...




* By definition, pro wrestling CANNOT be a sport as outcomes are pre-determined. Name one sport where the outcome is pre-determined?

You don't think boxing promoters know who's going to win? (or at least who they want to win).
Maybe not all fights but some of the big ones. Promoters have been known to feed a fighter a bunch of sub-par opponents (or Tomato Cans as they used to be known) to pad their record. Fights have been fixed and fighters have been known to take dives since some promoter realized you can make alot of $$$ off 2 guys beating the crap out of each other.

[Mrs Grudge]

Firstly Darts isnt a sport, its a game. There's no athleticism involved, just the ability to throw straight. Any "sport" you can play while drinking a 6 pack of Bud isn't a sport

Sports are games, and you could play any sport while drinking a 6 pack of bud, and while it is easy to tease those fat guys for playing darts, I don't think we really want to bring up intoxication for validity of whether something is a sport or takes skill in regards to Pro Wrestling.

Also darts does require athletic attributes in hand-eye coordination, dexterity and accuracy. To claim that that is not a sport is like saying archery is not a sport. The only difference is darts is more casual and accessible to the public.

Second, Pro wrestling isn't a pure sport, never was, never will be. Its "Sports Entertainment".

Then again so is every other PROFESSIONAL sport.
The goal of any sports franchise is to put as many paying customers in the seats as possible, whether its the NBA, the UFC or WWE.
Even at the Olympic level, the big endorsements go to the players that can entertain and draw fans, not necessarily to the best pure athlete.

"Sports Entertainment" is merely the name of the genre, it is not a literal criteria. What makes something Sports Entertainment isn't the fact that it is a sport or it is entertaining, the same way what makes something a Jazz song isn't due to it sounding jazzy. Sports Entertainment is merely a name Vince or some other guy thought of because it sounded the best with out discrediting his brand.

You don't think boxing promoters know who's going to win? (or at least who they want to win).
Maybe not all fights but some of the big ones. Promoters have been known to feed a fighter a bunch of sub-par opponents (or Tomato Cans as they used to be known) to pad their record. Fights have been fixed and fighters have been known to take dives since some promoter realized you can make alot of $$$ off 2 guys beating the crap out of each other.

A tomato can fighting a prospect is merely a contest that has a favorite and an underdog, Pro Wrestling is not a legitimate contest at all. By that nature it can't be considered a sport.

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

Sports are games, and you could play any sport while drinking a 6 pack of bud, and while it is easy to tease those fat guys for playing darts, I don't think we really want to bring up intoxication for validity of whether something is a sport or takes skill in regards to Pro Wrestling.

As well as any other sport or form of entertainment. There's alcohol and drug abuse in every walk of life, not just wrestling. Its just we seem to get crucified by the media anytime there's a incident.

Also darts does require athletic attributes in hand-eye coordination, dexterity and accuracy. To claim that that is not a sport is like saying archery is not a sport. The only difference is darts is more casual and accessible to the public.

Alright I was exaggerating and being sarcastic. I cant throw a dart to save my life so it does take some skill

"Sports Entertainment" is merely the name of the genre, it is not a literal criteria. What makes something Sports Entertainment isn't the fact that it is a sport or it is entertaining, the same way what makes something a Jazz song isn't due to it sounding jazzy. Sports Entertainment is merely a name Vince or some other guy thought of because it sounded the best with out discrediting his brand.


A tomato can fighting a prospect is merely a contest that has a favorite and an underdog, Pro Wrestling is not a legitimate contest at all. By that nature it can't be considered a sport.

it isn't. It's Sports Entertainment. My point is that any Pro sport has to have some entertainment value to draw a crowd and make money.
Pure MMA bouts would only appeal to hardcore MMA enthusiasts and martial artists. They use the entertainment value to draw the casual fan and sell out arenas, sell PPV's etc

[Sevb33]

It's all in the word, definition. The dictionary is pretty loose with the word "sport".

[Amra]

It's all in the word, definition. The dictionary is pretty loose with the word "sport".

True, but by my definition, in order for something to be considered an "official" sport, and to be recognized as such in some way (like a lot of the people in this thread want it to be), it needs to have clear measurables that dictate the competition. Pro Wrestling does not have this. The success in pro wrestling by the competitors is not based on any kind of recognized measurable statistic.

Official sports do have an entertain value, but the entertainment value is secondary, like a bonus, to the actual math that goes on, on the field of play. Football is a sport before it becomes entertainment where wrestling is entertainment before it is a sport.


Like I said in a different thread, and I know this sounds bad, but pro wrestling is more like Disney on Ice or a ballet than it is UFC. It is more like a fight scene in a movie than it is a real wrestling match.

/just my .2