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    Caffeine content of Phenorex

    Does anyone know about how much caffeine is in this product? I know its a prop blend however gaspari was saying that stacking it with Spriodex, which already has like 185mg i believe would be quite a bit. Any input is appreciated.

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    Originally Posted by intrusionzero View Post
    Does anyone know about how much caffeine is in this product? I know its a prop blend however gaspari was saying that stacking it with Spriodex, which already has like 185mg i believe would be quite a bit. Any input is appreciated.

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    Caffeine content really should be required by law to be listed on labels. Same for all stimulants really but especially the most common ones like caffeine.
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    Caffeine content really should be required by law to be listed on labels. Same for all stimulants really but especially the most common ones like caffeine.
    i believe it should be as well. caffeine and 1,3 as well.
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    Lol. In on a gaspari caffeine question thread.
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    Originally Posted by intrusionzero View Post
    Does anyone know about how much caffeine is in this product? I know its a prop blend however gaspari was saying that stacking it with Spriodex, which already has like 185mg i believe would be quite a bit. Any input is appreciated.

    Thanks
    i am sorry but they can not release that information. If they do other companies will copy their amazing formula and sell it thus ****ing them right in their corporate ass. and you don't want that, do you? HEY LOOK OVER THERE IT'S A PUPPY.

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    Originally Posted by intrusionzero View Post
    Does anyone know about how much caffeine is in this product? I know its a prop blend however gaspari was saying that stacking it with Spriodex, which already has like 185mg i believe would be quite a bit. Any input is appreciated.

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    I've used both, both are excellent products. I dont see the need to stack them, personally. You will get great results solo and I'd personally follow their suggestions on these powerful stims/fatburners
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    Originally Posted by mobikwa View Post
    Lol. In on a gaspari caffeine question thread.
    This is one of those topics where I don't think for a second a company should have a right to stand behind a prop blend. Not for such a well known stimulant like caffeine.

    1,3 I could understand there not being laws for since it's so new and unknown by the general public. But obviously it would be very nice if it had to be listed as well.
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    Originally Posted by jdaring View Post
    i am sorry but they can not release that information. If they do other companies will copy their amazing formula and sell it thus ****ing them right in their corporate ass. and you don't want that, do you? HEY LOOK OVER THERE IT'S A PUPPY.
    Its the reason there are such things as proprietary blends, trade secrets, patents, etc. Its easy to have someone copy you when you list the names and amounts of the ingredients directly on the label and there are no laws stopping copy cats. I'm not saying its right, but its got its point. I personally prefer non-prop blends or purchasing from companies I trust. Have you used either product, personally?
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    ~100mg....fairly low.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    ~100mg....fairly low.
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    Lol. In on a gaspari caffeine question thread.
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    i am sorry but they can not release that information. If they do other companies will copy their amazing formula and sell it thus ****ing them right in their corporate ass. and you don't want that, do you? HEY LOOK OVER THERE IT'S A PUPPY.

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    ~100mg....fairly low.
    Sooo....if any of you three are willing to try PHENOREX, I'll send you a week's supply. Kill them with kindness right?

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    This is one of those topics where I don't think for a second a company should have a right to stand behind a prop blend. Not for such a well known stimulant like caffeine.
    If food laws changes (supplements are a subset of food per the law), we'd gladly oblige and list them. However, as we've said before the majority of people don't care so we still keep it somewhat a nebulous secret. From a business perspective look at places like Dunkin's Donuts, Starbuck, etc who use more caffeine then probably all supplement companies combined. They don't list the caffeine amount and most people really don't care. If they are worried about caffeine, they take decaf.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    Sooo....if any of you three are willing to try PHENOREX, I'll send you a week's supply. Kill them with kindness right?

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    I appreciate the offer but no thanks. Not that I don't believe in Gaspari products, I do, I'm just gonna be using my Mitotropin for now.
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    Originally Posted by intrusionzero View Post
    Does anyone know about how much caffeine is in this product? I know its a prop blend however gaspari was saying that stacking it with Spriodex, which already has like 185mg i believe would be quite a bit. Any input is appreciated.

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    i would not recommend taking phenorex and spirodex together... would be way too much for the average person

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    I couldnt find the info on this... No reviews on this stuff.

    Any thyriod issues when using Phenorex? I really didnt like the sore throat from TT-33 at all.

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    Sooo....if any of you three are willing to try PHENOREX, I'll send you a week's supply. Kill them with kindness right?

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    Thx for your offer. But not interested
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    If food laws changes (supplements are a subset of food per the law), we'd gladly oblige and list them. However, as we've said before the majority of people don't care so we still keep it somewhat a nebulous secret. From a business perspective look at places like Dunkin's Donuts, Starbuck, etc who use more caffeine then probably all supplement companies combined. They don't list the caffeine amount and most people really don't care. If they are worried about caffeine, they take decaf.
    Fully understand, which is why I think the law itself should require it, just as restaurants now have to list basic nutritional information on menus. I don't expect individual companies to do so when nobody else has to. Would be nice though
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    Sooo....if any of you three are willing to try PHENOREX, I'll send you a week's supply. Kill them with kindness right?

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    I know I didn't post before in this thread but I would love to try it and log it for a week Des.
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    thank you for the answers gaspari guys, it is much appreciated. I just rememberd hearing that "spirodex and phenorex is the ultimate fat loss stack" did not look too much into it after that, but noticed that they both had caffeine so i was curious about that.
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    Originally Posted by mobikwa View Post
    I appreciate the offer but no thanks. Not that I don't believe in Gaspari products, I do, I'm just gonna be using my Mitotropin for now.
    Originally Posted by HALOBRYAN View Post
    Thx for your offer. But not interested
    It's kind of weird you guys aren't interested in a product but feel the need to post in a thread about it don't ya? I'm sure I'll see you again real soon and if you want to take a test drive of a product from a company you are consistently critical of, the offer is always there.

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    I know I didn't post before in this thread but I would love to try it and log it for a week Des.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    It's kind of weird you guys aren't interested in a product but feel the need to post in a thread about it don't ya? I'm sure I'll see you again real soon and if you want to take a test drive of a product from a company you are consistently critical of, the offer is always there.



    Shoot me a PM.
    As Ive posted many times, I don't hate Gaspari, I like their products. I'm using myofusion, spirodex, spmax is being delivered today, and I will be using mito. I just wish caffeine contents were known for all of the products.

    I always recommend gaspari products at the store I work at, when someone comes in wanting a good tasting protein I always go for the myo first.
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    thank you for the answers gaspari guys, it is much appreciated. I just rememberd hearing that "spirodex and phenorex is the ultimate fat loss stack" did not look too much into it after that, but noticed that they both had caffeine so i was curious about that.
    I think that, in this case, they mean to use one after the other for 2 months straight. Odd wording to call it a stack though.
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    I think that, in this case, they mean to use one after the other for 2 months straight. Odd wording to call it a stack though.
    The words cycle and stack are starting to be interchangeable. scary.
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    I have heard its aroun 150mg of caffeine . No one can be sure though except the manufacturer.
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    Caffeine content really should be required by law to be listed on labels. Same for all stimulants really but especially the most common ones like caffeine.
    ^^ this its bad enough companies use prop blends but they should have to at least list the caffeine content. you would'nt buy medication that wont tell you the amount of active ingredients right?
    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    If food laws changes (supplements are a subset of food per the law), we'd gladly oblige and list them. However, as we've said before the majority of people don't care so we still keep it somewhat a nebulous secret. From a business perspective look at places like Dunkin's Donuts, Starbuck, etc who use more caffeine then probably all supplement companies combined. They don't list the caffeine amount and most people really don't care. If they are worried about caffeine, they take decaf.
    the caffeine in their products is not added it probably varies a bit cup to cup. if they added caffeine i would expect them to list it just the same.
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    Originally Posted by dustinlebleu@yahoo.com View Post
    I have heard its aroun 150mg of caffeine . No one can be sure though except the manufacturer.
    It's not and I'm telling as I'm the formulator.

    Originally Posted by wayprotein View Post
    ^^ this its bad enough companies use prop blends but they should have to at least list the caffeine content. you would'nt buy medication that wont tell you the amount of active ingredients right?
    Supplements aren't medications. Regardless, medications aren't telling the amounts of time releasing mechanisms, etc within their "proprietary blends." Furthermore, who else besides a physician or a pharmacists really understands drug dosing to begin with? I doubt people are really worried about how much dextremethorphan they are getting in their cold medicine

    Originally Posted by dustinlebleu@yahoo.com View Post
    the caffeine in their products is not added it probably varies a bit cup to cup. if they added caffeine i would expect them to list it just the same.
    A Venti drip coffee contains about 480mg of caffeine and like us, if you ask, they'll tell you the approximate amount. SNIP...lol.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    A Venti drip coffee contains about 480mg of caffeine and like us, if you ask, they'll tell you the approximate amount. They don't list it anywhere a general consumer can find it unless the talk to their customer service staff.
    Its closer to 400 and its listed on their website and menus in the store.

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