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    ***My 1950 Dodge B2B Pilothouse Truck Resoration Log***

    Felt like keeping a log/journal of my progress on this project, the misc seemed like the perfect place to do so. There will be some narrative, but I'm not gonna post cliffs. Read it or don't.

    All regular posters/subscribers will be on my spread list!

    The story goes:

    I was browsing craigslist for a new project to keep me busy in the spring semester. Being the Mopar nut that I am, I naturally searched for 1940's-1950's Dodge/Plymouth/Desoto/Chrysler cars and trucks. I decided to search beyond my locale and ventured onto the Phoenix craigslist, where I found what seemed too good to be true; what I had been looking for for he past 7 years. It was a 1950 Dodge B2B. It was listed at 1800, and from the pictures and description I knew it would be snatched up quick. I quickly got on my phone and called the man, and we arranged for me to come check it out the following weekend.

    I decided, if I'm driving this far to check it out, I'm not going to drive back at a later time to pick it up, so I decided to bite the bullet and bring a trailer with me. I was pleasantly surprised when I arrived. The truck was in just the right condition I was looking for; not too much of a basket case, but still needed a lot of work to get it to where I wanted it to be. After shooting the **** with the old man for a while, I forked over the cash and received a title in return. Success.

    Some things I learned in the convo:
    -The truck had been on craigslist for WEEKS, and he didn't get any hits! He said after I called him though, he received several calls that day!
    -I am the third owner.
    -56,000 original miles

    We loaded up the truck, along with an entire bed full of extra parts, and I started on my way back home.


    Here she is, being towed behind my 2003 Ram

    Got her home, and into the back yard. As of right now, I live in student apartments, so the truck is at my old house where my old room mates still live. We have a full garage, and there's usually several projects going on at once, lol.

    The Engine
    As it sits now, the truck runs beautifully! The motor has already been gone over, and it looks great. Previous owner also mounted a modern GM alternator. I will be adding some after market performance upgrades in the future. It's a 218ci flathead straight six. It's not a high revving, high performance motor. However, it is reliable, tourquey, and original! Anyone who goes to car shows knows that EVERYONE puts a Chevy 350 in their rod, and while thats cool and all, it does get kind of old.


    Clean

    Here's a quick video I shot:


    The Transmission
    It has a 4 speed, non-synchronized transmission in it right now. Only downside, is its practically a 3-speed because the first gear is a granny gear that is useless on the street. I also received a legit 3 speed transmission for this truck, but I'm not going to use it. The plan is to adapt a T5 transmission out of a Chevy S10 truck. The gear ratios are much more street friendly, and with the 5th gear overdrive I can cruise at highway speeds. Right now, this thing can barely get to 50 mph, and the poor engine is SCREAMIN'!

    Rear Axle
    The rear axle has also been restored; new seals, painted, etc. However, this truck came with two tail gear options: 4.78:1 and 4.1:1. If its a 4.1, I'll probably keep it. If its a 4.78, I'll probably swap it out for a newer axle. Reason is, 4.78 is way too shallow, and will have my engine running too high RPM's at highway speed. There are several axles that fit into this application that can be had for cheap, and an added benefit is upgraded brakes.


    Rear Axle/Chassis, lookin' nice.

    Chassis/Suspension
    The frame has been repainted and looks good. Only thing that will be happening here is a pipe-notch in the rear for when I lower it. I'm also going to do a drop-beam axle in the front, and take out leaves from all four corners.

    Interior/Electrical
    The interior is excellent! The seat has no rips/tears, the steering wheel has been refurbished, and the speedometer has been reworked as well. At first I thought it was still the original paint, but upon further inspection it looks like its been repainted. Oh well! Only downside, there was a slight bit of rusting through on the passenger floor panel, but its since been taken care of. I'm going to put a nice floor mat down and install a stereo, and that's about it! Only gauge that is not operable is the temp gauge, so I need to diagnose that problem.

    The entire wiring harness will be replaced. It's actually not too daunting of a task, as the circuits in these old cars are very basic! Also, the system is currently 6 volt, and I'll be converting to 12 volt. Also, the system is positive-ground, and I'll be converting to negative-ground.


    Dash


    Floor


    Gauge Cluster

    Body
    The body has ZERO cancer! Only minor surface rust and a couple dents. Should only take a me a few afternoons to get it all straight. I have all the rear windows; the door windows and windshield need to be replaced. Along with ALL the rubber, $$$.

    The drivers side hood is bent in a few places, which cause it to close improperly. This is going to be the most difficult problem to fix, but is definitely doable. Also, the bed wood is gone and needs to be replaced. I do have all the bed sides, but the tailgate is dented beyond reasonable repair :/

    Still haven't settled on a paint scheme, and I'm OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS!

    As of right now I'm leaning toward something like this:



    Wheels

    I'm going to run the stock wheels. As of right now, they're at the sandblaster getting stripped, them I'm going to repaint them gloss black. I received the tires in the mail today, Coker Classic 6.50x16 radial whitewalls. The radials were way more expensive than the bias ply tires, but are well worth it.


    This is where shes at now.
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    Good luck man. If you get close to what you are leaning towards in the end it will be an awesome ride. Subbed.
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    sweet truck brah. love old trucks like these. can't wait to see what you do with it
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    Subbing to thread. I love the restoration process on old cars/trucks. I think a matte paint scheme would look really nice with the whitewalls.
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    good luck duel, i dont know schit about engines and vehicles. have fun... and hurry up so i can see the finished product
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    Super clean find for the $. Im jealous. Have fun with it, and hurry the hell up and get it done. Looking forward to the pics of the process.
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    pretty awesome.
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    Awesome man, I restore cars as well, currently restoring a 71 buick riviera, and just finished a 65 oldsmobile!

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    Looks sweet bro. I am currently restoring a 81 Malibu wagon.
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    can i put my penis in her tailpipe?
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    Any before and afters of previous projects?




    Could be cool to see your work.
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    I would do the red that you posted and a cream color around the windows between the drip rails and the body lines and a thin, tapered, cream colored stripe down the side to tie it all together. You could flatten either color if you wanted to for more effect depending on what style resto you're going for.
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    planning a flat black paint job? there are some nice paint kits for under $100.00

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    in for following progress. wish i had the time, skill and money to do something similar.
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    Originally Posted by Sendug View Post
    Good luck man. If you get close to what you are leaning towards in the end it will be an awesome ride. Subbed.
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    Originally Posted by steve123411 View Post
    sweet truck brah. love old trucks like these. can't wait to see what you do with it
    I cant wait either!

    Originally Posted by mitch2147 View Post
    Subbing to thread. I love the restoration process on old cars/trucks. I think a matte paint scheme would look really nice with the whitewalls.
    I've definitely considered several matte or flat colors.

    Originally Posted by paulpfiction View Post
    good luck duel, i dont know schit about engines and vehicles. have fun... and hurry up so i can see the finished product
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    Originally Posted by Tubbith View Post
    Super clean find for the $. Im jealous. Have fun with it, and hurry the hell up and get it done. Looking forward to the pics of the process.
    Gonna be plenty of pics.

    Originally Posted by bluemarlinO4 View Post
    pretty awesome.
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    Originally Posted by mauls View Post
    Awesome man, I restore cars as well, currently restoring a 71 buick riviera, and just finished a 65 oldsmobile!

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    Looks sweet bro. I am currently restoring a 81 Malibu wagon.
    Nice, I wanna see!

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    can i put my penis in her tailpipe?
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    Any before and afters of previous projects?




    Could be cool to see your work.
    This is my first personal project, I've only helped my room mate with **** hes done. Ill take some pictures of other projects around here.

    Originally Posted by IVEverLow View Post
    I would do the red that you posted and a cream color around the windows between the drip rails and the body lines and a thin, tapered, cream colored stripe down the side to tie it all together. You could flatten either color if you wanted to for more effect depending on what style resto you're going for.
    Red and cream was one of my first ideas.



    I like these colors, not the scheme though. This was actually a factory option, called the "Spring Special". They sold this paint scheme in the spring, mainly marketed towards businesses I guess.

    Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio View Post
    planning a flat black paint job? there are some nice paint kits for under $100.00

    SEMA has a hot rod flat black kit for 55... all you need is your compressor and sprayer
    I'll have to check it out. The painting was one thing I was planning on sending out to someone else, but who knows.

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    in for following progress. wish i had the time, skill and money to do something similar.
    I have time and money, but skill will be developed a lot on this project. Already learned a lot.
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    Nice project dude. I have wanted to get a 49-51 Pickup for a while. Totally classic lines.

    I would paint it straight up cherry red, no stripes or designs or other nonsense. Let the lines of the truck speak for themselves.
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    Update

    Got a few things done today:
    -Got the title transferred over and registered. It cost 4 dollars to transfer the title, and TWO YEARS worth of registration/tax/fees was 31 dollars. And no emissions testing. Win.
    -Ordered the wiring. I ordered the correct amounts of 16, 14, 12, and 10 gauge wire, in factory-correct colors. Cloth wrapped too, going to look nice.
    -Ordered the bed strips and hardware. Now I need to go buy and cut all the bed wood.
    -Picked up my wheels from the sandblaster. They has several layers of paint on them, so I decided to get em blasted. They also primered them too. Put the first coat of gloss black enamel on them, looking good so far.

    This is them primered, painted pics to follow later.





    -Painted the headlight rings. Stock ones are chrome, but I found some that were stainless and dent-free on ebay, so I ordered them. I sanded them down, primered, and applied a coat of gloss black enamel, looking good so far.

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    MSPainted a quickie of what I was saying, but didn't add in the stripe cause couldn't be ****ed to make that even look decent. Basically start at a point right behind the headlights and run all the way back, slowly tapering out to about 3" in thickness at the tail

    *edit* would look sick if one color or the other had some flattener and some pinstriping.

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    Wish I had the patience for such a rebuild on an old classic.
    Good luck OP.
    Keep up the log too. Most interesting thing on the misc this year.
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    Originally Posted by IVEverLow View Post
    MSPainted a quickie of what I was saying, but didn't add in the stripe cause couldn't be ****ed to make that even look decent. Basically start at a point right behind the headlights and run all the way back, slowly tapering out to about 3" in thickness at the tail

    *edit* would look sick if one color or the other had some flattener and some pinstriping.

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    In on Mopar restoration thread.

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    Originally Posted by tomac013 View Post
    Wish I had the patience for such a rebuild on an old classic.
    Good luck OP.
    Keep up the log too. Most interesting thing on the misc this year.
    I'll be keeping it up as much as I can. There might be some lulls when money and/or time runs low, but I don't see that becoming too much of a problem.

    Update

    Wheels
    Got the second coat of gloss enamel on the face. I'll probably only paint the back one coat, as I'm not too worried about appearance or road debris.



    These are the tires.



    Random Thoughts

    The leaf pack in each corner has 8 leaves. This truck will not be used to haul anything heavy, so I will probably be running only 4 or 5 leaves. This should lower it a few inches and have it ride a lot better. I'm not expecting it to float down the road like a Cadillac, but as it stands right now it rides like a Conestoga wagon. I feel like I'm on Oregon Trail about to die from Dysentery.



    Body work is by far the least pleasurable part, but when you accomplish something it makes you feel like a million bucks. One of the main dents that needs fixing is on the rear of the cab.



    Luckily its in a readily accessible spot. Only part I don't like is how close it is to the window line, mounting windows is a pain enough as it is without a crooked mounting surface.

    One common problem on these trucks are two large rivet on the front fenders that rust out. The previous owner started something to alleviate this issue. He cut out the affected area, and welded in new metal. Instead of doing a rivet, he just bolted it back on. I do want to maintain the rivet look though, so I'm going to use a carriage bolt.



    The only cancerous rust on this thing was the passenger floorboard. Its been sanded and painted though, this is where its at now:



    The fenders are in good shape, only a couple small dents.

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    Originally Posted by LOU A VILLE View Post
    Inn, I love restorations Im to broke for one myself.
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    Update

    Some more thoughts and background...

    The Grille

    Here's a picture showing some of my notes. There are a few dents that need to be pushed out, nothing major.





    The top and bottom grille bars are still on as you can see. I have the middle ones, they're getting sanded and painted right now. Those grill bars are extremely valuable. There's a set on eBay going for $850! Yeah, 4 pieces of stamped metal for 850 dollars. Thank God I have a complete set that are in good condition.

    Also, note the drivers side hood. It seems as if the hood was opened too far, and it twisted the hinge mechanism, along with some other stuff. Argh, that's gonna be a pain to fix.

    Interior

    The battery is actually in a sunken compartment in the floor.



    This plate explains the seat cushion system. There's a level on the front of the seat that determines the softness/firmness of the cushion. The foam I guess is essentially "sealed", and there's a valve. The more open the valve, the softer and easier compression. Pretty neat 60 year old technology!



    Data plate. Certified 82 horsepower, woo!



    In this picture, you can see the pedal configuration. Ok, I know the clutch/brake/gas, but what is that fourth pedal?

    Its the ignition switch! That's right, you turn the key, and then press down on that pedal to engage the starter.



    Exterior

    Drivers side door, where is the key tumbler?



    The passenger side has one!



    The reason for this, is because back in the day everybody parked on the street. It was actually illegal to enter your car from the driver side when parked like that, so they didn't bother putting an external lock.
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    Originally Posted by xduelx View Post

    The leaf pack in each corner has 8 leaves. This truck will not be used to haul anything heavy, so I will probably be running only 4 or 5 leaves. This should lower it a few inches and have it ride a lot better. I'm not expecting it to float down the road like a Cadillac, but as it stands right now it rides like a Conestoga wagon. I feel like I'm on Oregon Trail about to die from Dysentery.
    IMHO, I'd suggest running a set of late model springs, either de-arched or with modified perches to drop it some. Start pulling out that many springs and you're gonna kill your launch, handling and braking characteristics and gain some nasty wheel hop as icing on the cake. You'll have to check the measurements, but I'd suspect that a set of S-10 ZQ8 leaves will fit there with some relatively minor mods.

    Last pic, what are those forks for?

    Passenger door is screaming for a shave and a set of late model vette door handles welded in might flow pretty well.

    *edit* that thing has some pretty cool **** that I hadn't heard of before.. seats and what not. Learn something new every day right?
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    Originally Posted by IVEverLow View Post
    IMHO, I'd suggest running a set of late model springs, either de-arched or with modified perches to drop it some. Start pulling out that many springs and you're gonna kill your launch, handling and braking characteristics and gain some nasty wheel hop as icing on the cake. You'll have to check the measurements, but I'd suspect that a set of S-10 ZQ8 leaves will fit there with some relatively minor mods.
    Yeah, I have so many options. I'll most likely start by taking a couples leafs out and reevaluating. I can always just put em back and like you said de-arch them, reverse the eye, etc.

    Last pic, what are those forks for?
    For a little bobber kit I bought to mess around with.

    Fabbed up an ammo can to hold the electronics.





    Used a beer can as a shroud to help reflect the light.





    Passenger door is screaming for a shave and a set of late model vette door handles welded in might flow pretty well.

    *edit* that thing has some pretty cool **** that I hadn't heard of before.. seats and what not. Learn something new every day right?
    It would take some SERIOUS convincing for me to shave the handles. Body work is my arch nemesis, haha. Maybe I'll buy my friend a six pack and have him do it. Actually looking at it again, its right below the body line on flat metal, that probably wouldn't be too bad.

    And yeah the seat is... interesting. I've never seen anything like it on any other truck of that era.
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