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    Developing a product for the people - What do you want to see in a pre w/o stim ?

    Some of you know that Big Picture Nutrition is developing a line of scientific based supplements. As of today, we are working with an industry leading formulator to develop our first sports nutrition product. (The first batch of Big Picture Nutrition products listed on our site, and hopefully through bb.c will be form health food types; high protein natty peanut butter, When & pea protein crisps, DIY Protein bars etc).

    I have my own ideas about what I want this first, flagship product to be like Those criteria I know like the back of my hand. I also know, that I am not the only person that will be using this product, and in an effort to develop a product that you, the people want to see, I am looking for your input. The more I can gauge the climate of the form member the more I will have a direction to point our formulator. Though all suggestions will not be implemented, all will be considered.

    The first product will be a pre-work out powder. Stimmed.

    So let me ask you, what is it specifically you would like a stimmed product to do?
    What would you make the focus be?
    Pump?
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    Focus?
    CNS overload?
    Jitter free energy?
    Stamina?
    With creatine or without?

    There are tons of great products out there, and we aim to be one of them. Not just another name that comes and goes, but a brand that truly delivers the results that the people want via science proven ingredients and pathways.

    If you have any input at all, I would love to hear your ideas.

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    energy, focus, endurance and no prop blend for me(at the very least on the stims).
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    Originally Posted by Ace28 View Post
    energy, focus, endurance and no prop blend for me(at the very least on the stims).
    We will certianly NOT be hiding behind any proprietary blends.
    That is for sure!

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    Really?
    That's it?


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    Pump,Focus,Energy,Stamina,and creatine for me.Glad to hear it's not a prop. blend
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    you know, i might be alone in this, but i wouldn't mind a bubble gum flavored pre w/o drink...
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    No 1,3 D
    Nitrates are cool
    Doesn't stain my shaker cup
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    Pump without a creatine. Creatine and NO type products tend to have different time frames for activation in the body, so I always like to keep them separated. But def. a pump product
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    NO 1-3 DIM! nitrates are great, not to high in caffine. also like added adaptogens
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    Originally Posted by michaelarmenta View Post
    you know, i might be alone in this, but i wouldn't mind a bubble gum flavored pre w/o drink...
    One year after the Mr Olympia contest, I found myself with more free pre workout samples than I could ever use.
    I cut them all open and dumped them in to a big empty tub.
    Like a 5 lbs protein tub..
    Almost filled it up
    Every flavor of every sample I got from the show went in. Everything you could think of.
    I mixed it up very well, and in the end, it tasted like bubble gum.
    My thought was that is how they cam up with the bubble gum flavor in the first place.
    Mixed all the extra flavors they had left over in to one..

    Could be broscience.com though..

    Who knows..

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    Originally Posted by gymrat53 View Post
    No 1,3 D
    Nitrates are cool
    Doesn't stain my shaker cup
    good start and agreed.

    We wont be using any prop blends, so rest assured.


    Creatine or no creatine is the question.

    I prefer my creatine from a separate product.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler44 View Post
    good start and agreed.

    We wont be using any prop blends, so rest assured.


    Creatine or no creatine is the question.

    I prefer my creatine from a separate product.
    I'd say none just for flexibility and people can get mono dirt cheap.

    Preferably calorie free
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    Some ideas..

    Carnitine of some sort
    Cit Mal
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    NO 1,3 Dimeth
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    Originally Posted by michaelarmenta View Post
    you know, i might be alone in this, but i wouldn't mind a bubble gum flavored pre w/o drink...
    This would def be interesting...I'm down lol!

    Originally Posted by gymrat53 View Post
    No 1,3 D
    Nitrates are cool
    Doesn't stain my shaker cup
    Originally Posted by robertmm94 View Post
    NO 1-3 DIM! nitrates are great, not to high in caffine. also like added adaptogens
    Originally Posted by Prototyp3 View Post
    Some ideas..

    Carnitine of some sort
    Cit Mal
    Nitrates
    NO 1,3 Dimeth
    Cordyceps
    Glycerol
    MCC
    Agmatine
    I can already tell all of you, there will be NO 1,3 in this product. This decision was made a while back for a variety of reasons.
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    Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    L-Citrulline/Citrulline Malate
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    Creatine (CreaPure, MCC)
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    this + nitrates would be absolute money!
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    will this product come with a scoop?
    Lol, at this time, yes.
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    Sugar-free would be great, pumps for sure, nitrates, agmatine, and BA.

    Hmm as far as flavor goes, maybe try something different like mango, watermelon, or guava? Definitely random but I'm tired of the same old grape, fruit punch, berry, orange, and lemon-lime stuff out there. Something nice and smooth would be nice.

    Maybe a flavorless product? Maybe not too popular, but unique for sure...
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    What about some glycoCarn? Plasmatic has gc and it gave me good pumps. Or was that just a fad?

    No 1,3 please.
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    will this product come with a scoop?
    haha. I am assuming you saw the other thread on this...
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    Originally Posted by BigPicNut View Post
    One year after the Mr Olympia contest, I found myself with more free pre workout samples than I could ever use.
    I cut them all open and dumped them in to a big empty tub.
    Like a 5 lbs protein tub..
    Almost filled it up
    Every flavor of every sample I got from the show went in. Everything you could think of.
    I mixed it up very well, and in the end, it tasted like bubble gum.
    My thought was that is how they cam up with the bubble gum flavor in the first place.
    Mixed all the extra flavors they had left over in to one..

    Could be broscience.com though..

    Who knows..

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    I just want everyone to know that the formulations we are discussing (behind closed doors) are exactly what you have been waiting for. Why? Because we fukking listen! We look at what the customer wants, that comes first and foremost. Then we review the science to make sure it all adds up in the lab. Then we confirm it in the trenches, make sure the prod can stand the true test of iron. After that, it's all yours.

    Just sayin'.
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    Something with just the basics and not all the filler like sugar would be nice. N.O, high quality creatine, BCAA's, slow digesting protein to feed you throughout the workout, vitamins c and b12 and others that help energy, something that gives you a boost in energy other than caffeine (green tea etc...) easy digestibility so your first set doesnt involve the toilet and of course great flavor.
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    Originally Posted by subpolarbear View Post
    Something with just the basics and not all the filler like sugar would be nice. N.O, high quality creatine, BCAA's, slow digesting protein to feed you throughout the workout, vitamins c and b12 and others that help energy, something that gives you a boost in energy other than caffeine (green tea etc...) easy digestibility so your first set doesnt involve the toilet and of course great flavor.
    what's your opinion of Ajinomoto amino's?
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    Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    L-Citrulline/Citrulline Malate
    Glycerol
    Nootropics
    Leucine
    Beta Alanine
    Creatine (CreaPure, MCC)
    Agmatine
    Originally Posted by subpolarbear View Post
    Something with just the basics and not all the filler like sugar would be nice. N.O, high quality creatine, BCAA's, slow digesting protein to feed you throughout the workout, vitamins c and b12 and others that help energy, something that gives you a boost in energy other than caffeine (green tea etc...) easy digestibility so your first set doesnt involve the toilet and of course great flavor.
    All of this. Def the BCAA's so if I choose I can double the serving and take half pre w/o and use it like an intra as well.
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    will this product come with a scoop?
    well, since this is a stimmed product, there's not much need for a scoop. just use a heaping teaspoon.....

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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    what's your opinion of Ajinomoto amino's?
    I really dont have that much experience using those yet so I couldnt give you an honest answer. From what ive read they sound like they are top of the line without all the b.s. added in.
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