Triazole and sleep, anyone experience this?

[chemicalromance]

4 caps of Triazole a day, I am on my fourth day, and I don't care how long they say it takes to kick in, I am experiencing RAGING, ROCK HARD erections, and a libido that is honestly way too high for my preference. (note: my natural T is ~1000ng/dL, very high)

I thought there was a lot of hype about Triazole. I was wrong. This stuff works too well.

I am afraid to stack with AX.

Anyway here is the real unfortunate side effect I am experiencing: I cannot get any DEEP sleep while on it. I've experienced this before with some herbal supps. I have a hard time falling asleep, and when I do, I wake up feeling like I didn't sleep. Very weird.

Anyone experience this? Any solutions?

PS: Props to DS for putting out a high quality product. I wish I didn't have this sleep issue.

[Starkk]

Are you using anything else?

I'm experiencing somewhat similar effects every other night or so, but I chalked it up to the E/C I'm running.

When I do sleep though, I have some pretty weird dreams.

[Yates Row T]

i had my highest test reading in years while on two caps of triazole unfortunately my e2 was still rather high and my free T was pretty low.

Definitely does work but never experience sleep problems.

[chemicalromance]

Starkk, not using anything else. I am thinking about trying AX by itself, to see if it sits well with me.

Yates, what were your T and free T readings? How did you test it?

[Starkk]

Starkk, not using anything else. I am thinking about trying AX by itself, to see if it sits well with me.

Every other anecdotal report I've run across has suggested deeper and improved sleep, so I'd be surprised if it was effecting you that way, but it's certainly possible.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Like Stark mentions, usually the reports are about improvements in sleep. What time are you taking your last dose?

[triplewhammy]

Every other anecdotal report I've run across has suggested deeper and improved sleep, so I'd be surprised if it was effecting you that way, but it's certainly possible.

Correct, I can attest to IMPROVED sleep while on Triazole.

[chemicalromance]

I am taking two in the morning and two at night 10pm or so.

[rob112]

I don't wanna get outta bed on triazole lol. I slept really good. I ran one bottle and felt the libido boost. Solid product. I only ran one bottle and got sick and wasted almost a week though ima run it again before full review. Back op, I thought sleep was deep with nutty dreams.

[xR1pp3Rx]

try taking them at dinner time..
also try some ghenerate and igh-1 from LG , you will be sleeping like a log.

[Robboe]

Take your last dose a couple of hours earlier and see if it helps.

[chemicalromance]

Does everyone find the increase in libido manageable? Am I the only one who feels like a violent sex-starved beast?

Does stacking with AX make this even worse?

[Sldge]

I am taking two in the morning and two at night 10pm or so.

I would do what Rob suggested as well as possibly consider cutting back to 3 caps per day so you only use 1 cap at night.

Take your last dose a couple of hours earlier and see if it helps.

[zephyrmike]

I am on day 13 and I have noticed in the last week my overall mood has been really good. I have an overall sense of wanting to get things done I have put off. As far as the gym I do feel stronger and my workouts have been really good. I usually finish my workout and think about doing some abs and usually don't because I am exhausted. Last few workouts I felt like I had another round in me to do some cardio or abs.

I have not gotten the libido effects yet or "NRB's" as one forum member put it. I am 39 and I have notice my libido dip, and my wife is hot, well I think so anyway. I may try something like L-Arginine or Tribulus. I have been taking 3 a day, and I am going s to bump it to 4 tonite. Once I finish this first bottle I plan on running a second with AX, and then take 30 days off and possibly repeat it.

[rhizome]

4 caps of Triazole a day, I am on my fourth day, and I don't care how long they say it takes to kick in, I am experiencing RAGING, ROCK HARD erections, and a libido that is honestly way too high for my preference. (note: my natural T is ~1000ng/dL, very high)

I thought there was a lot of hype about Triazole. I was wrong. This stuff works too well.

I am afraid to stack with AX.

Anyway here is the real unfortunate side effect I am experiencing: I cannot get any DEEP sleep while on it. I've experienced this before with some herbal supps. I have a hard time falling asleep, and when I do, I wake up feeling like I didn't sleep. Very weird.

Anyone experience this? Any solutions?

PS: Props to DS for putting out a high quality product. I wish I didn't have this sleep issue.

Why don't you put that boner to work and lay some pipe to hide before bed so you're tired. Profit??????

[Sldge]

I am on day 13 and I have noticed in the last week my overall mood has been really good. I have an overall sense of wanting to get things done I have put off. As far as the gym I do feel stronger and my workouts have been really good. I usually finish my workout and think about doing some abs and usually don't because I am exhausted. Last few workouts I felt like I had another round in me to do some cardio or abs.

I have not gotten the libido effects yet or "NRB's" as one forum member put it. I am 39 and I have notice my libido dip, and my wife is hot, well I think so anyway. I may try something like L-Arginine or Tribulus. I have been taking 3 a day, and I am going s to bump it to 4 tonite. Once I finish this first bottle I plan on running a second with AX, and then take 30 days off and possibly repeat it.

Well everything else is definitely where it is supposed to be so I wouldnt change anything. Try bumping the cap up by one and are you taking any other supps. A lot of times people are also using some type of a stim and that usually lowers sex drive.

[Sldge]

Why don't you put that boner to work and lay some pipe to hide before bed so you're tired. Profit??????

Or this! Lay pipe till the boner goes down, lol.

[chemicalromance]

rhizome, I am single, nowhere to put it the boner, that's why it's more of a bother for me. I may stack with Prozac or some antidepressant to kill the libido part.

Sldge, do people report better or worse sleep with AX? I may try that by itself next to see if it lets me sleep better.

[Starkk]

rhizome, I am single, nowhere to put it the boner, that's why it's more of a bother for me. I may stack with Prozac or some antidepressant to kill the libido part.

Sldge, do people report better or worse sleep with AX? I may try that by itself next to see if it lets me sleep better.

1. Go to local pub
2. Wear your going-out shirt
3. Find some slags to wear out
4. ?????????????????
5. Profit/STD test in the morning

[zephyrmike]

Just coffee, which I probably drink too much of. One of my goals is to cut it to one cup in the morning and that's it. I grew up in NY and drinking coffee 4 times a day was pretty standard for my brothers and I. It's a bad habit and I rely on it too much to jump start me throughout the day. I am hoping cutting it out will actually give me more all day energy rather than serious burst of energy followed by a 4pm nap.

Well everything else is definitely where it is supposed to be so I wouldnt change anything. Try bumping the cap up by one and are you taking any other supps. A lot of times people are also using some type of a stim and that usually lowers sex drive.

[Sldge]

rhizome, I am single, nowhere to put it the boner, that's why it's more of a bother for me. I may stack with Prozac or some antidepressant to kill the libido part.

Sldge, do people report better or worse sleep with AX? I may try that by itself next to see if it lets me sleep better.

Most report better sleep when taking either product. For me I feel as though Im more rested and sleep better but hours wise its less.

A few times though Ive had such vivid dreams that I felt as though I didnt sleep much at all when I really was.

I would try changing the dose and timing of it first. Either product is good and most people say they sleep better is both.

[Sldge]

Just coffee, which I probably drink too much of. One of my goals is to cut it to one cup in the morning and that's it. I grew up in NY and drinking coffee 4 times a day was pretty standard for my brothers and I. It's a bad habit and I rely on it too much to jump start me throughout the day. I am hoping cutting it out will actually give me more all day energy rather than serious burst of energy followed by a 4pm nap.

I suppose that could contribute to it but it wasnt what I was thinking. Any changes in your diet recently? Start cutting back on calories for a new diet?

[chemicalromance]

Starkk, easier to get wymyn when you're 6'3 230 vs 5'9 160!

Sldge, ever heard of Kratom (it's a Thai herb)? It gives me a very similar feeling as far as the sleeplessness. Anyway I'll try playing with the dose and timing and see if it helps. I'll also get me some AX.

PS: DS is one of my fav brands now. Much respect to your R&D.

[zephyrmike]

I suppose that could contribute to it but it wasnt what I was thinking. Any changes in your diet recently? Start cutting back on calories for a new diet?

No, one thing I recently quit (two days ago) was using Veramyst nasal spray for allergies which I have been taking for 3 months. Some of the listed side effects are loss of libido and fatigue of which I have both. I'll bump it up one pill to 4 and see how it goes, along with quitting veramyst.

[j2smile]

I suppose that could contribute to it but it wasnt what I was thinking. Any changes in your diet recently? Start cutting back on calories for a new diet?

ax+trz stack would you recomend ax 2 caps am 2 caps pm and for trz 2 caps am 1 caps pm.

[PinchTheBear]

ax+trz stack would you recomend ax 2 caps am 2 caps pm and for trz 2 caps am 1 caps pm.

That is the correct dosing.

[Billton]

I've had trouble sleeping on anything that lowers estrogen.

[zephyrmike]

I am the opposite so far on TZ, I am out cold the second my head hits the pillow and the next thing I know my alarm is going off. I took 2 last night before bed, I'll see how the 2/2 dosing goes for the rest of this bottle.

[amazongb]

I sleep better than I have in years.. taking 3 caps daily, but stacking 3 caps of AX as well.. take morning, 2pm, 9pm.. also, dreams are more vivid, but sleep is much, much better..

[dazbug]

I've had trouble sleeping on anything that lowers estrogen.

I'm the same