*** The Greatest Way to Loose Fat is too ...

[MickStewartCFT]

... stop eating at night!

Thats it.

If you are overweight or obese, simply STOP filling your pie hole and night and drink water. Obviously you need to eat nutritiously during the week (to burn bodyfat), lift weights (to build muscle) and perform cardio (to enhance your metabolism) but the key to LOOSING THOSE STUBBORN POUNDS is to s t o p shoving food down your gullet while you watch t.v.

Taking supplements, working out, running --- none of that will work until you can *DISCIPLINE YOURSELF* to stop eating after 7:00 p.m.

At night, your body needs time to rest, repair and recharge itself ---> it does not need supplementation.

So ... when Jersey Shore comes on, kick back with a nice big glass of red wine, or sparkling ice water!

Regards,
Mick

[kusok]

Not shoore if srs...

People on IF often eat 3'000 calories from 7 pm to midnight and beyond, and lose fat.

Caloric balance is paramount. Meal timing is irrelevant for vast majority of people.

[phoenixr2]

U trollin us brah?

Eat whenever you want, just eat in a calorie deficit if you want to lose fat.

You can't possibly be serious and think your body just stores everything after 7pm.

[kusok]

U trollin us brah?

Eat whenever you want, just eat in a calorie deficit if you want to lose fat.

You can't possibly be serious and think your body just stores everything after 7pm.

The fat storing fairies. They mostly come out at night.



Mostly.

[trance__dreamer]

or, if you're like me & LOVE eating before bed, save more of your cals for the evening/lighter meals during the day.

this has always worked like a charm for me.

[MickStewartCFT]

U trollin us brah?

Eat whenever you want, just eat in a calorie deficit if you want to lose fat.

You can't possibly be serious and think your body just stores everything after 7pm.

Eat whatever you want?

I disagree.

For those on the forum that are *overweight* and reading these threads to lose weight, they need to stop eating and let their body use their bodyfat as energy. Carb stores are routinely burned throughout the day (most normal people) and bodyfat burned slowly at night.

I've had great success stopping all food intake at 7:00 p.m. when I needed to loose that excess bodyweight and get ripped; my clients have always benefited from this system as well.

And its cheap: no protein powders, no supplements, no silly "bodybuilding" recipes.

Amazing what the human body can do when its left alone, eh?

Regards,
Mick

[JayAllen20]

I agree that people need to stop eating out of pure boredom, which seems to be what you're pointing at here in a way. The fact that people associate eating with watching television and simply eat when it's on because that's what they've accustomed themselves to do.

However, telling someone that the way to lose weight is to simply stop eating after 7pm is so far off it's not even worth getting into seeing as it's been addressed countless number of times in these forums and in the stickies.

I'm sure you mean well, but this is not going to go the way you want it to. HAHA

[kusok]

Eat whatever you want?

I disagree.

For those on the forum that are *overweight* and reading these threads to lose weight, they need to stop eating and let their body use their bodyfat as energy. Carb stores are routinely burned throughout the day (most normal people) and bodyfat burned slowly at night.

I've had great success stopping all food intake at 7:00 p.m. when I needed to loose that excess bodyweight and get ripped; my clients have always benefited from this system as well.

And its cheap: no protein powders, no supplements, no silly "bodybuilding" recipes.

Amazing what the human body can do when its left alone, eh?

Regards,
Mick

Your clients and you lost weight because of caloric deficit, not meal timing.

[phoenixr2]

Eat whatever you want?

I disagree.

For those on the forum that are *overweight* and reading these threads to lose weight, they need to stop eating and let their body use their bodyfat as energy. Carb stores are routinely burned throughout the day (most normal people) and bodyfat burned slowly at night.

I've had great success stopping all food intake at 7:00 p.m. when I needed to loose that excess bodyweight and get ripped; my clients have always benefited from this system as well.

And its cheap: no protein powders, no supplements, no silly "bodybuilding" recipes.

Amazing what the human body can do when its left alone, eh?

Regards,
Mick

Read carefully, I said eat WHENEVER you want.
Eating WHATEVER you want is a completely different discussion then the topic at hand, Meal timing.
I will agree with you though. So many PT's push supps and uneeded things on clients. Eat to reach your goals and exercise the same, and I agree, its amazing what the body can do.

[JayAllen20]

Your clients and you lost weight because of caloric deficit, not meal timing.

Exactly. There have been countless studies to show that meal timing is irrelevant when it comes to losing weight. Most of which could be found right here on these forums if you do a little searching. The key to losing weight is to simply create a caloric deficit.

Now, there's no reason to say how someone should or shouldn't go about structuring their meal plans and nutrition throughout the day to accomplish this because there are so many different ways to go about it. That comes down to personal preference. If you choose to eat all your meals and take in all of your allotted calories before 7pm, then that's fine. Nothing wrong with that at all. But someone else can very well eat most of their calories after 7pm and as long as they are creating a caloric deficit and hitting their macros (for the most part) they can still achieve the same results but in a different manner of doing so.

What most people here are going to have a problem with is that you are claiming that NOT eating after 7 pm is the 'Greatest' way to lose fat, which is so far off it's not even funny. If it works for you and your clients, that's great. But as Kusok pointed out, if they are losing weight it's because they are 'creating a caloric deficit', not because they choose to stop eating at a certain point during the day. If they took in an excess amount of calories before 7 pm they would start gaining weight. The GREATEST way to lose fat is to .... wait for it.... here it comes..... Create a caloric deficit! Either by taking in less or burning more!

[vandalgirl59]

*cough*buncha crap*cough*

[Shr3dJunki3]

Not shoore if srs...

People on IF often eat 3'000 calories from 7 pm to midnight and beyond, and lose fat.

Caloric balance is paramount. Meal timing is irrelevant for vast majority of people.

3000 calories and lose fat???

[kusok]

3000 calories and lose fat???

Well, that depends on size, metabolism, and activity level of a given person. Actually I'm 200 lbs with about 11% bodyfat or whatever you think my pics suggest (never measured), and at age 35 now losing fat nicely at 3'000 calories. Clearly getting a bit leaner every week or two.

My maintenance is about 3300 or so. I'm not that active, just a decent metabolism. I know people with faster metabolism than mine. By far.

Some people cut on 3500 calories, I envy them They can eat so much!

[iLoLd]

some people only cut on less than 1500, i think for someone to tell them not to eat past 7pm would be abit irresponsible

[DiamondDelt]

lol I've heard this as a general rule, and I'm not sure. I like to hedge my bets. No eating before bed, no eating RIGHT as you wake up, no eating right before or right after working out. I tried all them at once, just in case. Unfortunately now I can't actually tell you which one is the most true, or if any are... yikes.

[kusok]

lol I've heard this as a general rule, and I'm not sure. I like to hedge my bets. No eating before bed, no eating RIGHT as you wake up, no eating right before or right after working out. I tried all them at once, just in case. Unfortunately now I can't actually tell you which one is the most true, or if any are... yikes.

None

[DiamondDelt]

I have that sinking feeling, too :P

[kusok]

bump. "Greatest" thread...

[MagicSteve]

I find I put fat on if I eat between 7.03pm and 7.42pm.

Nothing I can do

[amazongb]

Meal timing is old school...cal deficit and eat whenever you're hungry.

[Shr3dJunki3]

Well, that depends on size, metabolism, and activity level of a given person. Actually I'm 200 lbs with about 11% bodyfat or whatever you think my pics suggest (never measured), and at age 35 now losing fat nicely at 3'000 calories. Clearly getting a bit leaner every week or two.

My maintenance is about 3300 or so. I'm not that active, just a decent metabolism. I know people with faster metabolism than mine. By far.

Some people cut on 3500 calories, I envy them They can eat so much!

BRB, IF'ing. How do you IF? I know how its done and what it is but just wondering how you do it.

[robwein83]

This is somewhat true. Yes, macro nutrient count over the day is important, but particularly more important could be the control of insulin. And thus, limiting your carb intake at night especially is very important.

I think that BB.com unfortunately gets on many bandwagons. Right now, it seems that the "educated" and generalized information is that meal timing is not important, and it doesn't matter what you eat and when, carbs at night is fine, etc. And yes, GENERALLY some of these things do apply. Certainly, you can get away with eating some carbs as they fit into your diet at night, but people say this very generally and certainly a guy whoofing down a pizza before bed is going to be more prone to fat storage.

It's pretty simple, carbs elicit an insulin response, your body is not going to burn fat while dealing with carbs. Hence, limit your intake at night. I don't think there is a direct correlation of results when comparing your calorie quota per day and WHEN you take in certain macros. People seem to think this is true. However, I think that insulin response plays a much larger role in the re-composition of the body.

I'm not much better than the guy on the bandwagon here, cause I am only spreading things I hear. This is somewhat poorly paraphrased from a discussion off a "Body-RX" podcast. More importantly though, I think that people on these boards need to STOP generalizing and hoping on these "knowledgeable" bandwagons. Saying that carb restriction before bed is irrelevant is WAY off base. And I only think that the rumor started because, some guy with fantastic genes told them that it worked for them ( different things work for different people) and cause generally, yes, you can see some success if you have 40 grams of carbs before bed (moderation), but don't confuse that with thinking 300 grams of pasta before bed is a good idea.

People on the boards need to stop with these GENERALIZED BANDWAGONS!

I support OP. However, OP please change "loose" to lose. It might be sapping some of your credibility.

[TrueBDB]

Wait I thought if you ate after midnight you turned into a gremlin?!

[kusok]

This is somewhat true. Yes, macro nutrient count over the day is important, but particularly more important could be the control of insulin....

Stopped reading^^^

Insulin got NOTHING on calorie balance.


In fact fat can be stored independently of insulin. Insulin is not the bad guy. Old incomplete myth says fat cells don't open when insulin is present, but guess what? Fat cells open SOON AFTER Laws of thermodynamics can not be beat by hormonal changes. Energy in, energy out, it's the LAW.

[amazongb]

Stopped reading^^^

Insulin got NOTHING on calorie balance.


In fact fat can be stored independently of insulin. Insulin is not the bad guy. Old incomplete myth says fat cells don't open when insulin is present, but guess what? Fat cells open SOON AFTER Laws of thermodynamics can not be beat by hormonal changes. Energy in, energy out, it's the LAW.

Just read an article about how insulin isn't the bad guy.. wish I could find the article..

[robwein83]

Stopped reading^^^

Insulin got NOTHING on calorie balance.


In fact fat can be stored independently of insulin. Insulin is not the bad guy. Old incomplete myth says fat cells don't open when insulin is present, but guess what? Fat cells open SOON AFTER Laws of thermodynamics can not be beat by hormonal changes. Energy in, energy out, it's the LAW.

hormones has everything to do with body composition and growth in the human body

[krott5333]

1 star

[kusok]

hormones has everything to do with body composition and growth in the human body

Studies don't support your fear of insulin. If you will cut out carbs at night you may as well cut them out before starting an 8-hour desk shift. Makes zero sense.

You need to educate yourself on this subject. Google words like this: "Alan Aragon carbs at night insulin" etc and learn. Stop believing old idiotic bro science myths! If you believe in insulin being important and fat storing fairies coming out at night, you may as well go and believe the other bro science myths:
- don't eat fat pre and post work-out.
- avoid fruit because fructose doesn't replenish muscle glycogen
- avoid sugar
- avoid saturated fat
- avoid dairy
- eat 6 small meals per day
etc.

All complete and total bull**** ^^^

[csb5731]

some people only cut on less than 1500, i think for someone to tell them not to eat past 7pm would be abit irresponsible

This! I would never be able to fall asleep when cutting if I had an early "curfew" like that. I am not IFing, but I do tend to eat around half my daily allotment within an hour of hitting the sack. Fat comes off just fine, and I am able to sleep well.

It's one thing if somebody gets close to their required calories or more in during the day, then eats a quart of Rocky Road while he/she watches NCIS. It's entirely another situation when somebody actually consumes, over the course of an extended time frame, less calories than expending.

If you don't want to, or maybe can't (kid/student/beholden-to-mess-hall), count calories, then the curfew might be a good idea to help possibly reduce intake. But if you able to be diligent, then it shouldn't be any concern.

[robwein83]

Studies don't support your fear of insulin. If you will cut out carbs at night you may as well cut them out before starting an 8-hour desk shift. Makes zero sense.

You need to educate yourself on this subject. Google words like this: "Alan Aragon carbs at night insulin" etc and learn. Stop believing old idiotic bro science myths! If you believe in insulin being important and fat storing fairies coming out at night, you may as well go and believe the other bro science myths:
- don't eat fat pre and post work-out.
- avoid fruit because fructose doesn't replenish muscle glycogen
- avoid sugar
- avoid saturated fat
- avoid dairy
- eat 6 small meals per day
etc.

All complete and total bull**** ^^^

I'm not fearful of insulin. All I'm saying is this...

"As for warning against carbs at night, there’s nothing inherently fattening about night-time carbs unless they contribute to a chronic surplus of calories that isn’t used for building lean tissue. The ONLY reason cutting carbs out of the evening works for controlling fat gain in some folks is because it restricts total caloric intake for the day.

“No carbs at night” is nothing more than a calorie-cutting-for-dummies tactic. Can it work? Yes, it can. In the case of people who tend to overeat carbo-liscious foods at night, this can serve as a default solution, but it’s not a guideline that should be universally recommended. What works just as well is cutting back on an equivalent amount of calories earlier in the day. There are no night-time insulin fairies ready & waiting to store carbs in the fat tissue — at least not at any greater rate than they would do so during the day."
[http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/0...ma-dies-hard/]

I know all about Alan bro. I guess what I was trying to say is that people use eating carbs at night as an excuse to binge. But I guess that goes along fine with their "bulking" plan, where they think they need to eat 5000 calories a day, and that 3lbs they gain each week is all muscle. In the case of "cutting", well then either way you're going to be generally lower carb anyhow.