what happens if u dont get enough protein?

[sarahcollver]

I trust him, he has helped me a lot so far and I have only had 12 sessions with him. He is a pro powerlifter which is what I want to be.

[MrM27]

I trust him, he has helped me a lot so far and I have only had 12 sessions with him. He is a pro powerlifter which is what I want to be.

Your trainer recommending 300g is just so unnecessary. You might trust him but trust should not mean you blindly accept everything he says without at least asking him why he suggests what he does and seeing if there is any logic behind his recommendation.


http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-...-bodybuilders/

Alan Aragon - "Protein 101: How Much Protein Do You REALLY Need?

[sarahcollver]

so am I understanding this right? I want to weigh 220 lbs so I should eat 220 g of protein?

[Robin13]

It varies I'm having roughly 120-130 each day as my lean mass is 140 give or take so you can see why 300 grams is rather high?

[cmt029]

My personal trainer said I need 300 g but I am doing fine with less than that atm

You'll never need that much protein unless you're on steroids.

[sdunn96]

so am I understanding this right? I want to weigh 220 lbs so I should eat 220 g of protein?

What is current weight?

I take in around 1.2 gr / pound of body weight...
I am at 175, and my protein intake is around 210 gr.

[Serpentarius]

so am I understanding this right? I want to weigh 220 lbs so I should eat 220 g of protein?

You do not need more than 110g a day.

[sarahcollver]

my current weight is 267 lbs last time i had my body composition calculated my LBM was 170 lbs

[sdunn96]

my current weight is 267 lbs last time i had my body composition calculated my LBM was 170 lbs

Then I would go w/ protein between 140 - 170gr.

[Serpentarius]

my current weight is 267 lbs last time i had my body composition calculated my LBM was 170 lbs

You are basically saying you have more total lean body mass STARTING than most males have as their genetic potential. Your goal weight is probably closer to 130 lbs.

[sdunn96]

Also, with the excess body fat ~100 lbs....you are in the best position to make use of weight lifting.
You can be in a calorie deficit, and still have good energy balance to support muscle development.
Just get your calories and macros right.

[sdunn96]

You are basically saying you have more total lean body mass STARTING than most males have as their genetic potential. Your goal weight is probably closer to 130 lbs.

Very valid point also.

[MuzzieChik786]

Lol.

I weighed more than you. Forget about the protein number and eat less. WAY less. That's what will get you to 220.

You don't need to start worrying about macros until you're leaner.

[sdunn96]

Lol.

I weighed more than you. Forget about the protein number and eat less. WAY less. That's what will get you to 220.

You don't need to start worrying about macros until you're leaner.

Would still be in her best interest to track the macros and get into that habit.

[MuzzieChik786]

Would still be in her best interest to track the macros and get into that habit.

Not when you're 267 lbs and think you have 170 lbs of lbm on you.

Tracking calories > tracking macros at this point. Unless she's gearing up for some bodybuilding contest where she needs to preserve every ounce of muscle she can.

[sdunn96]

Not when you're 267 lbs and think you have 170 lbs of lbm on you.

Tracking calories > tracking macros at this point. Unless she's gearing up for some bodybuilding contest where she needs to preserve every ounce of muscle she can.

I won't argue that point with you.....you are correct. In the grand scheme, over all calories is what she needs to worry about.
But tracking the macros would still be a good habit to get into, because at some point, she will need to do that.....

@sarahcollver
Keep in mind, that MuzzieChik786 (I think) and I are not saying just eat cake and candy but stay at or below calorie goals.
The idea is still to eat foods that will promote a healthy weight loss.

[EjnarKolinkar]

My personal trainer said I need 300 g but I am doing fine with less than that atm

Achieving the deficit should be your main concern. 300 grams protein is ludicrous If you are consuming a normal, balanced, deficit diet.

Blowing through 1200 cals just on protein makes it hard to have reasonable fat and even minimal carbs.

Pls review sticky topics OP.

[sarahcollver]

You are basically saying you have more total lean body mass STARTING than most males have as their genetic potential. Your goal weight is probably closer to 130 lbs.

It is true I have a lot of muscle check out the pics on my profile

[MrM27]

It is true I have a lot of muscle check out the pics on my profile

So here is the thing and don't get offended, what you see and think you have isn't muscle as in the stuff we all train so hard to get. When we are obese there are 2 things we do often....

1. Underestimate how much fat we have
2. Overestimate how much muscle we have

You could very well have somewhat close to the amount of lbm you think you have but you need to realize that glycogen, connective tissue along with some other things are in that number. Not just muscle.

You are obese like many of us were and our bodies adapted to the stress we put on it asking it to carry around all that weight by creating new lbm (muscle and connective tissue) and now it will let that go as you lose weight. So while your objective is to preserve as much lbm ad possible it is inevitable that you must lose some. It will happen accept it or not.

[Swamp Dog]

my current weight is 267 lbs last time i had my body composition calculated my LBM was 170 lbs

I need to know where you got your body comp measured because I'm not happy with what mine measured.

[sarahcollver]

I need to know where you got your body comp measured because I'm not happy with what mine measured.

I got it at the gym. Btw my max bench is 115 lbs, my max squat is 115 lbs, my max deadlift is 155 lbs and I just started doing those exercises this january. I am pretty sure I am stronger than the average female. I lift 400 lbs with my calves and my max leg press is 485 lbs. I know I have muscle. I am not just fat.

[MrM27]

I got it at the gym. Btw my max bench is 115 lbs, my max squat is 115 lbs, my max deadlift is 155 lbs and I just started doing those exercises this january. I am pretty sure I am stronger than the average female. I lift 400 lbs with my calves and my max leg press is 485 lbs. I know I have muscle. I am not just fat.

You are ignoring the facts that people are presenting you including the post I made earlier because you don't want to believe it. No one is saying you don't have muscle. You aren't the first woman to think she has a ton of muscle and that she is stronger than the average female. But you need to realize that the reality is that you probably have at least 70 lbs you need to lose.

And as far as being strong goes, the are many girls many of us know that can squat 200+ and deadline 300+.

[sarahcollver]

You are ignoring the facts that people are presenting you including the post I made earlier because you don't want to believe it. No one is saying you don't have muscle. You aren't the first woman to think she has a ton of muscle and that she is stronger than the average female. But you need to realize that the reality is that you probably have at least 70 lbs you need to lose.

And as far as being strong goes, the are many girls many of us know that can squat 200+ and deadline 300+.

no I am not ignoring that I am on a strict diet right now and have lost 18 lbs since December. I know I am obese and I am working very hard to burn off the fat.

[sarahcollver]

You are ignoring the facts that people are presenting you including the post I made earlier because you don't want to believe it. No one is saying you don't have muscle. You aren't the first woman to think she has a ton of muscle and that she is stronger than the average female. But you need to realize that the reality is that you probably have at least 70 lbs you need to lose.

And as far as being strong goes, the are many girls many of us know that can squat 200+ and deadline 300+.

But I do know because of my genetics and endomorphic body type it will be harder for me to lose the fat than other people.

[MrM27]

no I am not ignoring that I am on a strict diet right now and have lost 18 lbs since December. I know I am obese and I am working very hard to burn off the fat.

What does that even mean?

But I do know because of my genetics and endomorphic body type it will be harder for me to lose the fat than other people.

Nope, it's the same as everyone else. **** types were debunked a long time ago and are used by people with excuses. You are not an endomorph, you're a human. And get a grip on reality.

[sarahcollver]

What does that even mean?



Nope, it's the same as everyone else. **** types were debunked a long time ago and are used by people with excuses. You are not an endomorph, you're a human. And get a grip on reality.

I think you guys are just trying to argue with me for the sake of arguing. I am not here to argue with people I am here to learn new information to help me with my healthy new life style. If this is the way I am going to get treated every time I post in the forum then I might as well stop even posting in the forums. If your goal is to encourage people to get healthy starting arguments with people for no reason is not very encouraging or positive.

[sarahcollver]

Just because I am not praising all your advice does not mean I am not listening to what you have to say. I know you have to take fitness advice with a grain of salt because everyone will tell you one thing or another. It is best to listen to people you trust and find what works for you. The people I listen to the most are my doctor, my personal trainer, and the owner of the gym. But I know they may not always have all the right answers because like every body else they are only human.

[MrM27]

I think you guys are just trying to argue with me for the sake of arguing. I am not here to argue with people I am here to learn new information to help me with my healthy new life style. If this is the way I am going to get treated every time I post in the forum then I might as well stop even posting in the forums. If your goal is to encourage people to get healthy starting arguments with people for no reason is not very encouraging or positive.

Don't confuse information with arguing. If you keep being resistant to information then you'll never learn. My goal is not to encourage people, it's to spread factual information. It's up to you to decide if you post or not. It's your loss or gain. You choose.

Just because I am not praising all your advice does not mean I am not listening to what you have to say. I know you have to take fitness advice with a grain of salt because everyone will tell you one thing or another. It is best to listen to people you trust and find what works for you. The people I listen to the most are my doctor, my personal trainer, and the owner of the gym. But I know they may not always have all the right answers because like every body else they are only human.

If those are the people you trust the most then it's obvious you don't question the advice you're given at all since one of those people had you eating 300g of protein.

[sarahcollver]

Well sorry judging from his body compared to yours I would rather take his advice then yours. He is way more along the lines of what I want my body to look like. like I said he is a pro powerlifter. I have no idea who you are.

[MrM27]

Well sorry judging from his body compared to yours I would rather take his advice then yours. He is way more along the lines of what I want my body to look like. like I said he is a pro powerlifter. I have no idea who you are.

Well that's fine. So I guess you no longer need any advice from this forum since you have him.

It's also cute how you, you, are trying to put down how I look. Lol.