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    IBE Epistane Bottle Caps

    I've seen their caps come in white and black and I remember reading somewhere that one of them was superior to the other? Can anyone attest to the truth of this or debunk the rumor?

    EDIT: http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/supple...-epistane.html

    Look at post #6

    Ok,
    First off I'm not one to start Drama, and I did email, PM, and call IBE to rectify this situation before postingwith absolutely NO RESPONSE from them.

    So....since the IBE Epistane "cat is out of the bag", and I'm getting ZERO response from IBE, I'll explain my situation and test results...

    I finished an IBE Epi cycle about 3 months ago (2 bottles, some left over) and loved it, so I went ahead and bought another bottle last month.

    Interesting thing is, First 2 bottles had a Black Cap with tan powder in capsules.
    Second order of Epi had a White Cap with white powder in capsules.
    I have PMed a few members of this board and others and it seems MOST have the white cap with white powder.

    Ran GC/MS on tan powder and white powder.
    Results show they are DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS.
    I don't have reference spectra to determine which is true epi (working on interpretation) but I am getting similar results to the White Caps when compared to results of Epi-Max:http://www.*****************.com/images/epi-max.pdf

    I will compare results of Black cap to see if spectra is similar to trenbolone (as PA reports). Although results of cycle were NOT tren in nature.

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    Originally Posted by slimwealthy1 View Post
    I've seen their caps come in white and black and I remember reading somewhere that one of them was superior to the other? Can anyone attest to the truth of this or debunk the rumor?

    EDIT: http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/supple...-epistane.html

    Look at post #6

    Ok,
    First off I'm not one to start Drama, and I did email, PM, and call IBE to rectify this situation before postingwith absolutely NO RESPONSE from them.

    So....since the IBE Epistane "cat is out of the bag", and I'm getting ZERO response from IBE, I'll explain my situation and test results...

    I finished an IBE Epi cycle about 3 months ago (2 bottles, some left over) and loved it, so I went ahead and bought another bottle last month.

    Interesting thing is, First 2 bottles had a Black Cap with tan powder in capsules.
    Second order of Epi had a White Cap with white powder in capsules.
    I have PMed a few members of this board and others and it seems MOST have the white cap with white powder.

    Ran GC/MS on tan powder and white powder.
    Results show they are DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS.
    I don't have reference spectra to determine which is true epi (working on interpretation) but I am getting similar results to the White Caps when compared to results of Epi-Max:http://www.*****************.com/images/epi-max.pdf

    I will compare results of Black cap to see if spectra is similar to trenbolone (as PA reports). Although results of cycle were NOT tren in nature.
    if i recall correctly the black ones had a decent amount of phera in it hence "better" the white cap is just epi 10mg. but the black def had another compound in it.
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    They are saying something about the black capped bottle capsules breaking down into trenbalone.

    I have IBE Epistane White bottle top and Transform Epi, which one should I take?

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    Originally Posted by slimwealthy1 View Post
    They are saying something about the black capped bottle capsules breaking down into trenbalone.

    I have IBE Epistane White bottle top and Transform Epi, which one should I take?
    epi degrades to phera under heat and i dont believe it cant turn into trenbalone...

    white cap ibe is epi and fine...transform is purus labs and quality, i respect transfrom forged/purus much more than ibe.

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    Originally Posted by slimwealthy1 View Post
    They are saying something about the black capped bottle capsules breaking down into trenbalone.

    I have IBE Epistane White bottle top and Transform Epi, which one should I take?
    I wouldn't trust **** from IBE

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    Yea i'll start with Transform and end it with IBE. I thought i was originally getting the black capped bottle so I was pumped.

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    Originally Posted by slimwealthy1 View Post
    Yea i'll start with Transform and end it with IBE. I thought i was originally getting the black capped bottle so I was pumped.
    whered u get it from? only black cap epi available is on an auction site
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    Originally Posted by jquintinjr View Post
    whered u get it from? only black cap epi available is on an auction site
    a dude on this site.

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    Originally Posted by slimwealthy1 View Post
    a dude on this site.
    did he tell u u were getting black capped?
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    Originally Posted by jquintinjr View Post
    did he tell u u were getting black capped?
    Actually i worded it incorrectly. I thought at first it was the label that was different, so I asked if it was black labeled haha. Dumbassness on my part.

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    Originally Posted by slimwealthy1 View Post
    Actually i worded it incorrectly. I thought at first it was the label that was different, so I asked if it was black labeled haha. Dumbassness on my part.
    FTL haha. but yeah use both bottles maybe a 6week run @40mg would be sweet
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    Originally Posted by slimwealthy1 View Post
    I've seen their caps come in white and black and I remember reading somewhere that one of them was superior to the other? Can anyone attest to the truth of this or debunk the rumor?

    EDIT: http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/supple...-epistane.html

    Look at post #6

    Ok,
    First off I'm not one to start Drama, and I did email, PM, and call IBE to rectify this situation before postingwith absolutely NO RESPONSE from them.

    So....since the IBE Epistane "cat is out of the bag", and I'm getting ZERO response from IBE, I'll explain my situation and test results...

    I finished an IBE Epi cycle about 3 months ago (2 bottles, some left over) and loved it, so I went ahead and bought another bottle last month.

    Interesting thing is, First 2 bottles had a Black Cap with tan powder in capsules.
    Second order of Epi had a White Cap with white powder in capsules.
    I have PMed a few members of this board and others and it seems MOST have the white cap with white powder.

    Ran GC/MS on tan powder and white powder.
    Results show they are DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS.
    I don't have reference spectra to determine which is true epi (working on interpretation) but I am getting similar results to the White Caps when compared to results of Epi-Max:http://www.*****************.com/images/epi-max.pdf

    I will compare results of Black cap to see if spectra is similar to trenbolone (as PA reports). Although results of cycle were NOT tren in nature.
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    Originally Posted by Hyruliangoat View Post


    ^good post.
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    Originally Posted by jquintinjr View Post
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    Originally Posted by jquintinjr View Post
    lol pompous
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    Originally Posted by hyruliangoat View Post
    probably the best post of the new year so far
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    Originally Posted by jquintinjr View Post
    epi degrades to phera under heat and i dont believe it cant turn into trenbalone...

    white cap ibe is epi and fine...transform is purus labs and quality, i respect transfrom forged/purus much more than ibe.

    run both bottles: 30/40/40/40/40






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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    This. Exactly.
    thanks man
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    If one was questionable i would run it first so the good stuff is closer to PCT.

    oh, Transform and Purus are two different companies however yes they do get their raws the same place Purus use to...

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    Originally Posted by jquintinjr View Post
    whered u get it from? only black cap epi available is on an auction site
    i ordered mine off of amazon.com and i recieved two (2) 90 capsule bottles for 50 dollars. each day the prices go up or down. just placed another order. i am on the black cap. i like the gains, and a guy that works near me was on same and gained 10 pounds in the first week and a half. great stuff.

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