Does squat = bigger arms?

[bigBOSSguy]

is it real? or not?

inb4mre growth hormone from working legs.

[biggestdog2007]

No lol squats will not increase arm size at all.

[Frosty23]

Well there is the belief that it does when doing something like the '20-rep squats routine'. Doing a hard and long set of squats before an upper body workout releases extra testosterone which does lead to better gains all over the body, not just on your legs because you are squatting more times per week.

My friend believes this is the cause of his spurt of muscle development. Have a read up on it, I am 50/50 based on my experiences of it but that is part of the aim of that particular programme.

[cobhc]

You don't really use your arms when you do squats but I can guarantee that once I started throwing squats into my workout, I went up in weight on nearly every muscle.

[xraided85]

You don't really use your arms when you do squats but I can guarantee that once I started throwing squats into my workout, I went up in weight on nearly every muscle.

i agree, it wont literally make your arms bigger, but once you start throwing heavy weight on your body its going to be forced to try and grow to accomidate that weight.

[BringtheNoise]

Well you don't do squats for arms, but your arms will stop growing at a point if you aren't doing squats. So yes, I'd say squats = bigger arms.

[ZoranM]

but your arms will stop growing at a point if you aren't doing squats.

You win the prize for THE statement of month December.

Stimulating arm muscles = bigger arms.

[BringtheNoise]

You win the prize for THE statement of month December.

Why is that?

[BringtheNoise]

Here's a good article about this subject.

Big Arms, Big Physique

Q: Is it true you have to gain a bunch of muscular body weight overall in order to get big arms?

A: Typically, you have to gain 15 pounds of overall body weight to add an inch to your upper arm measurements. Now, if you want to go from 21 to 22-inch arms, which is enormous, it'll be more like a 25 pound gain.

Weider writers claimed that Arnold used to have a 22 inch arm COLD. Arthur Jones said they were full of ****. Arthur Jones was right: The Weider camp was full of ****. For Arnold to have a legitimate 22 inch arm, he would've had to weigh 308.

If you're going from a 14 inch arm to 16, then 30 pounds will do it. But going from 18 to 20 inches will require more like a 50 pound gain.

Now, let's say that starting tomorrow all you did was arms. There's something — and I think it has to do with acupuncture meridians — that would cause your arms to stop growing until you restore balance. So in other words, if you don't put four to five inches on your thighs, then your arms will stop growing.

Bodybuilder Troy Alves has huge arms. We were talking about this one day and he said he couldn't get his arms to grow anymore until he started training his legs.

And remember, you have far more anabolic output from training legs than training arms. So, all these people who don't like split routines are retarded. If I train arms on Monday then Tuesday I train legs, my leg workout will actually make my arms grow. The next session I do my chest and back, which will help my legs and my arms grow. The point is that the anabolic response you get is systemic.

If your arms haven't grown since Hilary Clinton smiled, then don't train them for four months. Concentrate instead on chest and back work. You may lose half an inch on your arms, but once you go back to arm training your arms will grow right away and surpassyour previous arm size.

In my years of putting size on, I found that the best way to grow arms was to NOT train arms directly for four months out of the year. I still did chins and dips of course, but no direct arm exercises.

[bigBOSSguy]

Here's a good article about this subject.

Big Arms, Big Physique

Q: Is it true you have to gain a bunch of muscular body weight overall in order to get big arms?

A: Typically, you have to gain 15 pounds of overall body weight to add an inch to your upper arm measurements. Now, if you want to go from 21 to 22-inch arms, which is enormous, it'll be more like a 25 pound gain.

Weider writers claimed that Arnold used to have a 22 inch arm COLD. Arthur Jones said they were full of ****. Arthur Jones was right: The Weider camp was full of ****. For Arnold to have a legitimate 22 inch arm, he would've had to weigh 308.

If you're going from a 14 inch arm to 16, then 30 pounds will do it. But going from 18 to 20 inches will require more like a 50 pound gain.

Now, let's say that starting tomorrow all you did was arms. There's something — and I think it has to do with acupuncture meridians — that would cause your arms to stop growing until you restore balance. So in other words, if you don't put four to five inches on your thighs, then your arms will stop growing.

Bodybuilder Troy Alves has huge arms. We were talking about this one day and he said he couldn't get his arms to grow anymore until he started training his legs.

And remember, you have far more anabolic output from training legs than training arms. So, all these people who don't like split routines are retarded. If I train arms on Monday then Tuesday I train legs, my leg workout will actually make my arms grow. The next session I do my chest and back, which will help my legs and my arms grow. The point is that the anabolic response you get is systemic.

If your arms haven't grown since Hilary Clinton smiled, then don't train them for four months. Concentrate instead on chest and back work. You may lose half an inch on your arms, but once you go back to arm training your arms will grow right away and surpassyour previous arm size.

In my years of putting size on, I found that the best way to grow arms was to NOT train arms directly for four months out of the year. I still did chins and dips of course, but no direct arm exercises.

hurmmmm....

[ironwill2008]

If your arms haven't grown since Hilary Clinton smiled, then don't train them for four months. Concentrate instead on chest and back work. You may lose half an inch on your arms, but once you go back to arm training your arms will grow right away and surpassyour previous arm size.

In my years of putting size on, I found that the best way to grow arms was to NOT train arms directly for four months out of the year. I still did chins and dips of course, but no direct arm exercises.

Epic. To grow your arms, don't train them for 4 months.

[BringtheNoise]

Epic. To grow your arms, don't train them for 4 months.

Charles Poliquin wrote the article.

[ironwill2008]

Charles Poliquin wrote the article.

So what? I could probably find a dozen articles, written by other "famous" dudes, stating the direct opposite.

[BringtheNoise]

So what? I could probably find a dozen articles, written by other "famous" dudes, stating the direct opposite.

Is he "famous" or has he coached gold medalist athletes, and several professional athletes?

[KingAxel707]

So what? I could probably find a dozen articles, written by other "famous" dudes, stating the direct opposite.

[ironwill2008]

Is he "famous" or has he coached gold medalist athletes, and several professional athletes?

Again, so what? I'm a bodybuilder, and don't really care about gold medalists, or pro athletes, unless you're talking about bodybuilders.

Smart money is on training the way the vast majority of bodybuilders who have made real progress are training--by doing a balanced amount of direct arm work on a regular schedule.

[brudman]

Is he "famous" or has he coached gold medalist athletes, and several professional athletes?

+ he's written a ton of self contradicting, aimless doctrine chock full o' verbal diarrhea and random thoughts and generalizations that are later misinterpreted by novice or average trainees.

[cobhc]

A lot of that stuff in the article is particularly true for me.

I don't think my arms are huge or anything but I made really nice gains on my biceps in the last 4 months and I did barbell curls twice a month. All of my definition and size change came from back workouts and other things.

[BringtheNoise]

Again, so what? I'm a bodybuilder, and don't really care about gold medalists, or pro athletes, unless you're talking about bodybuilders.

Adding size is adding size bro. Not like bodybuilders do it differently than anybody else.

Smart money is on training the way the vast majority of bodybuilders who have made real progress are training--by doing a balanced amount of direct arm work on a regular schedule.

Yes, because the vast majority of bodybuilders didn't do compound lifts to put on size. Good thinking!

[ironwill2008]

+ he's written a ton of self contradicting, aimless doctrine chock full o' verbal diarrhea and random thoughts and generalizations that are later misinterpreted by novice or average trainees.

^^^^This.

I'm familiar with Poliquin; I read some of his stuff in the muscle mags 15 years ago. He likes to be "controversial."

[CHRIS925]

Squats made my gunZ huge brah! I don't even do curls anymore f*ck all that

[tinyhulk]

We aimed to gain insight into the role that the transitory increases in anabolic hormones play in muscle hypertrophy with unilateral resistance training. Ten healthy young male subjects (21.8 +/- 0.4 years, 1.78 +/- 0.04 m, 75.6 +/- 2.9 kg; mean +/- SE) engaged in unilateral resistance training for 8 week (3 days/week). Exercises were knee extension and leg press performed at 80-90% of the subject's single repetition maximum (1RM)

No changes were seen in the untrained leg. In conclusion, unilateral training induced local muscle hypertrophy only in the exercised limb, which occurred in the absence of changes in systemic hormones that ostensibly play a role in muscle hypertrophy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16972050

[BringtheNoise]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16972050

Not exactly the same thing.

[TR0LLF4CE]

Stimulating arm muscles = bigger arms.

This statement is not entirely true, as anyone who has tried (me, unfortunately) has discovered that arm exercises alone will not build big arms—at least, not without chemical enhancements. Likewise, no-one will build a good pair of legs with just leg extensions and leg curls.

There is clearly a lot more to hypertrophy than simply targeting individual muscles.

[Dgwear]

No lol squats will not increase arm size at all.

the idea is that since you are doing such a heavy full body lift you will gain over all mass. and yes they will make your arms bigger. you will gain more weight over all. curls and extensions wont do near as much as squats and deadlifts will do for your arms.

[socket]

Epic. To grow your arms, don't train them for 4 months.

Come on IW....of course your arms will grow after not training them for 4 months.....






You'll gain back all that you lost in no time

[tinyhulk]

Not exactly the same thing.

You're right. And OP wasn't clear if he means adding squats, while training arms, (which i've seen conflicting arguments back and forth on) or just doing squats to make the arms magically grow, in which case this study refutes.

[BringtheNoise]

Come on IW....of course your arms will grow after not training them for 4 months.....






You'll gain back all that you lost in no time

You're still training your arms, just not doing direct work.

[BringtheNoise]

You're right. And OP wasn't clear if he means adding squats, while training arms, (which i've seen conflicting arguments back and forth on) or just doing squats to make the arms magically grow, in which case this study refutes.

True, just assumed it was the former.

[ZoranM]

This statement is not entirely true, as anyone who has tried (me, unfortunately) has discovered that arm exercises alone will not build big arms—at least, not without chemical enhancements.

I said 'stimulating arm muscles', not 'doing arm isolation exercises' only.

Point being, squats do nothing for arms.