Natadrol blood results!! Now in!*

[THEHUGE]

Not everything that works will shut you down that hard and fast. Winny won't shut you down that fast. 6 weeks of D-bol at 100mgs reduces test levels to approximately 40% or normal.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6430603
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/793272

[athenrye]

I would love to see proof that this person gained 45lbs on lifts in 1 week. Good luck finding actual proof.

And lost hair within that 1st week too @ only 3 caps/day and gained 4kg mass in 3 weeks! Something's not right there. Why would he not feel the need for PCT after those crazy gains and effects? I'd be convinced I'd been spiked with AAS, running a SERM and booking an appt with my doc for bloodwork.

[On Fire]

Try more like the previous few months if this is a serious bodybuilder.

I mean sandbagging " I can lift 100 pounds today" then a week later lifting to full potential and reporting 145

[rhadam]

I mean sandbagging " I can lift 100 pounds today" then a week later lifting to full potential and reporting 145

Ya sandbagging is possible if you want to be really false. I was more thinking he slacked off for a few months, diet went to crap and his natural test lowered. He took Natadrol and turned diet and training around and boom, up 45lbs when he could have easily already done that. Either way, it's all bs.

[rhadam]

And lost hair within that 1st week too @ only 3 caps/day and gained 4kg mass in 3 weeks! Something's not right there. Why would he not feel the need for PCT after those crazy gains and effects? I'd be convinced I'd been spiked with AAS, running a SERM and booking an appt with my doc for bloodwork.

Well........ it is possible to do a mild Epi run at 225 or 300 and get some nice gains and not use a pct. It's been done, and reported, many times. That's not the case here though lol.

[Billton]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6430603
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/793272

The one regarding Winny surprised me since that's a fairly short duration of use, but the one on D-bol yeilded slightly lower testosterone levels that I stated after two weeks longer use. The dose of course was tremendously lower so I'm not sure how that would compare.

[THEHUGE]

The one regarding Winny surprised me since that's a fairly short duration of use, but the one on D-bol yeilded slightly lower testosterone levels that I stated after two weeks longer use. The dose of course was tremendously lower so I'm not sure how that would compare.

I'd say a 70% drop with just 15mg/day is pretty large and winny is definitely more suppressive than what most people think.

[drudixon]

I'd say a 70% drop with just 15mg/day is pretty large and winny is definitely more suppressive than what most people think.

I'm totally lost now on what it is this product is supposed to be doing. Someone please explain in layman's terms?

[michaelarmenta]

I'm totally lost now on what it is this product is supposed to be doing. Someone please explain in layman's terms?

the product is supposed to be making lg sciences rich and nothing more

[Liftergym33]

No offense, but the reason I'll never buy an LG product is because of the reps on these boards. One topic comes up and it can't be talked about or discussed without them descending upon it like a pack of vultures. If the products were actually that good, I'd let the product do the talking and not the reps. Anyway, that's my two cents.

I'm with you here...One thing i hate is when reps dictate the product, Theres stuff out there right now i wont touch because of the reps, but the online reps don't make the company. This is where you have to stand back and look and the product and see what it does.

This is like saying, I wont buy a Honda because the guy at one dealership was a jerk off.

I'm glad the OP posted his results... Me personally I would have waited until the end of the cycle to get a true assessment though, This is a natty product bottom line. I would love to see a end result!

[Billton]

I'd say a 70% drop with just 15mg/day is pretty large and winny is definitely more suppressive than what most people think.

Yeah that's a pretty large drop for such a low dose.

[Liftergym33]

The drop in cortisol is nice, but the increase in test too small to be worth the money IMO. The liver levels were fine. They'd look the same after 2 nights of binge drinking and tylenol.

I'm in for the discussion here...My question is where is this statement that Natadrol is a test booster?

[Liftergym33]

Well **** this is disappointing...the placebo effect is stronger than I thought....just the basics for me from now on. Can't wait to be a little older so I can run ph. (even though I can already run a safe and effective cycle now but choosing to research more) damn lg I am dissapoint

A product that was never billed as a test booster gave results that lowered Cortisol by nearly 40% and kept test levels the same is a placebo? How do you figure?

Scratching my head..

Again in for the discussion fellas

[On Fire]

A product that was never billed as a test booster gave results that lowered Cortisol by nearly 40% and kept test levels the same is a placebo? How do you figure?

Scratching my head..

Again in for the discussion fellas

Please see my earlier posts re: cortisol and why his cortisol results were TOTALLY irrelevant.

[Liftergym33]

Please see my earlier posts re: cortisol and why his cortisol results were TOTALLY irrelevant.

you speaking of the NO Supplementation?

[jeff1979]

Lg Sciences is making a safe alternative for people to use, instead of dangerous supplements like M-drol, H-drol etc. I don't know about you but when a product shows a 50% decrease in cortisol and test levels remain constant. Then I think the product is doing its job. Remember this is a product that can be used for DRUG TESTED athlete's. The others are banned and banned for a reason. Do I agree they should be banned NO, but the general people who use these products have no right using them! And that's why we see all the lawsuits and problems associated with them today. LG Sciences is a company that has been giving us the alternative to overly price, overly hyped products for years. LG's products have been used by millions and will continue to be.

Im not a rep! Im a sponsored athlete that wanted to be sponsored by this company and fought very hard to be. I have used Natadrol, M1D and everything from the LG product line. I like that Lg has brought safety back to the supplement industry, then just trying to compound the most dangerous, hardest, most potent product to make a buck. There are many people out there who have used Natadrol with great success and I hear it all the time. regular people, and athlete's of all sort.

by the way there are a lot of things that can affect a blood test!
So 1 test doesn't mean jack!

P.S. Kiwi-watermelon BC+EAA is the best! 8:1:1 ratio and taste great for under $20 for 30 servings

[On Fire]

you speaking of the NO Supplementation?

No. Like I said: read.

Another uneducated rep...

[On Fire]

Lg Sciences is making a safe alternative for people to use, instead of dangerous supplements like M-drol, H-drol etc. I don't know about you but when a product shows a 50% decrease in cortisol and test levels remain constant. Then I think the product is doing its job. Remember this is a product that can be used for DRUG TESTED athlete's. The others are banned and banned for a reason. Do I agree they should be banned NO, but the general people who use these products have no right using them! And that's why we see all the lawsuits and problems associated with them today. LG Sciences is a company that has been giving us the alternative to overly price, overly hyped products for years. LG's products have been used by millions and will continue to be.

Im not a rep! Im a sponsored athlete that wanted to be sponsored by this company and fought very hard to be. I have used Natadrol, M1D and everything from the LG product line. I like that Lg has brought safety back to the supplement industry, then just trying to compound the most dangerous, hardest, most potent product to make a buck. There are many people out there who have used Natadrol with great success and I hear it all the time. regular people, and athlete's of all sort.

by the way there are a lot of things that can affect a blood test!
So 1 test doesn't mean jack!

P.S. Kiwi-watermelon BC+EAA is the best! 8:1:1 ratio and taste great for under $20 for 30 servings

Blah blah blah: learn to read and comprehend before basing your commentary on results you don't understand.

[Liftergym33]

No. Like I said: read.

Another uneducated rep...

Haha.. Maybe you didnt see I was in for the dissusion.., I read all of your posts. the only thing i seen you speak of is cortisol could very with NO supplementation

[On Fire]

When I said "NO" I didn't mean nitric oxide, I meant "zero"

[Liftergym33]

When I said "NO" I didn't mean nitric oxide, I meant "zero"

NO $hit!! hahahahaha

[Liftergym33]

That cortisol drop could easily have taken place over the course of 3-4 hours with NO supplementation whatsoever, so get over it.

I quoted you!^^^

[Liftergym33]

Friends now

[drudixon]

Haha.. Maybe you didnt see I was in for the dissusion.., I read all of your posts. the only thing i seen you speak of is cortisol could very with NO supplementation

So, you guys are saying this product is meant to compete with lean extreme?

[ZB126]

So, you guys are saying this product is meant to compete with lean extreme?

dude.... did you read any of this thread? lol

[Liftergym33]

As predicted, it does nothing. Maybe this will be the nail in the coffin.

We just concluded a Ghenerate study on GH deficient people 7 people went up in values (100-500%) and one person went down.

A single person isn't indicative of anything, but I still scratch my head on what "placebo" you are talking about. It's showing a marked cortisol lowering effect which is great! Unless they can measure androgenic herbs, it's not going to show anything there and test levels remained constant, which is about what you would expect.

[weebay]

Lg Sciences is making a safe alternative for people to use, instead of dangerous supplements like M-drol, H-drol etc.

How is Natadrol an alternative to M-drol or H-drol? Both of those products actually work.

I pre-ordered two bottles of Natadrol and had no gains. OP's bloodwork tends to support that Natadrol doesn't actually have a tangible effect, certainly nowhere close to the PH's and designer steroids that it claims to replace.

Every time someone posts a negative opinion on Natadrol the LG reps/shills come out of the woodwork and start a flame war. I remember a thread where some idiot posted a Natadrol log where he claimed to gain like 20 lbs of muscle in 30 days and LG reps had a bunch of people convinced that he wasn't lying.

[Liftergym33]

How is Natadrol an alternative to M-drol or H-drol? Both of those products actually work.

I pre-ordered two bottles of Natadrol and had no gains. OP's bloodwork tends to support that Natadrol doesn't actually have a tangible effect, certainly nowhere close to the PH's and designer steroids that it claims to replace.

Every time someone posts a negative opinion on Natadrol the LG reps/shills come out of the woodwork and start a flame war. I remember a thread where some idiot posted a Natadrol log where he claimed to gain like 20 lbs of muscle in 30 days and LG reps had a bunch of people convinced that he wasn't lying.

Im here in happiness... online waring isnt my style

[Liftergym33]

How is Natadrol an alternative to M-drol or H-drol? Both of those products actually work.

I pre-ordered two bottles of Natadrol and had no gains. OP's bloodwork tends to support that Natadrol doesn't actually have a tangible effect, certainly nowhere close to the PH's and designer steroids that it claims to replace.

Every time someone posts a negative opinion on Natadrol the LG reps/shills come out of the woodwork and start a flame war. I remember a thread where some idiot posted a Natadrol log where he claimed to gain like 20 lbs of muscle in 30 days and LG reps had a bunch of people convinced that he wasn't lying.

Just a question. does one blood test speak for it all then?

[athenrye]

We just concluded a Ghenerate study on GH deficient people 7 people went up in values (100-500%) and one person went down.

A single person isn't indicative of anything, but I still scratch my head on what "placebo" you are talking about. It's showing a marked cortisol lowering effect which is great! Unless they can measure androgenic herbs, it's not going to show anything there and test levels remained constant, which is about what you would expect.

I agree but people were told to expect suppression of natural testosterone production hence the recommendation by LG to run (LG's) PCT afterward.