Beyond raw for free?

[Da_Jtac_0]

today in the mail i got
http://www.********/product/index.jsp?productId=4396592
and
http://www.********/product/index.jsp?productId=4396593

absolutely free. i was very surprised but am looking for some opinions on it. i figured because its free and they are supplements i probably wouldnt take otherwise so i guess i will take them.

any op[inions on them. they is so much marketing but im having trouble figuring out what they are. i can tell the re force is like a sleep aid but what is the refine?

[Kato88]

what site is it from its blanks it out

[Da_Jtac_0]

fml. why does bb.com have to be so touchy...i guess it is in their best interest though

http://www.gnc .com/product/index.jsp?productId=4396593

http://www.gnc. com/product/index.jsp?productId=4396592

just remove the spaces

[zb1506]

did you order it in the last glitch? or did they just randomly send it to you lol

[Kato88]

jesus thats some expensive CRAP, good for free tho

[Da_Jtac_0]

they sent it to me for free. there was a paper inside that said they were giving it to me to test.

[rhadam]

Re-Forge seems to have test boosting properties, DHEA and Fenugeek. Also looks like it has pre-workout ingredients in the Vaso-Boost category, saw some Reversatol in there as well. Refine looks like a non-stim fat burner. Idk about that grouping of ingredients and how well they work together. Might as well try em and find out OP.

[shadar]

Refine is a pre-workout fat-burner (it does have stims).

Reforge is a pre-bed hgh/test booster type product.


Both seem to be under-dosed... but I suppose they are still a step up from the past crap GNC sold simply because they have some good ingredients in them (albeit at small doses).

[rhadam]

Refine is a pre-workout fat-burner (it does have stims).

Reforge is a pre-bed hgh/test booster type product.


Both seem to be under-dosed... but I suppose they are still a step up from the past crap GNC sold simply because they have some good ingredients in them (albeit at small doses).

What's the stim? Only 2 things i didn't know offhand were niacin and pantothenic and those both seem to be derived from vitamin B.

[shadar]

What's the stim? Only 2 things i didn't know offhand were niacin and pantothenic and those both seem to be derived from vitamin B.

caffeine in the thermo activator blend

Did you look at the actual label or just their supp info? the PDF has the label itself. Their site displays info horribly.

[rhadam]

caffeine in the thermo activator blend

Did you look at the actual label or just their supp info? the PDF has the label itself. Their site displays info horribly.

Supp info

Which is why i never saw anything caffine related.

[snorkelman]

Wonder whether any of us who now own multiple gold cards and icewands will be on their list of people to send more free stuff to

[Da_Jtac_0]

Refine is a pre-workout fat-burner (it does have stims).

Reforge is a pre-bed hgh/test booster type product.


Both seem to be under-dosed... but I suppose they are still a step up from the past crap GNC sold simply because they have some good ingredients in them (albeit at small doses).

do i not need a regular pre workout when im taking refine?

is reforge a test booster or a pro hormone?

[shadar]

do i not need a regular pre workout when im taking refine?

is reforge a test booster or a pro hormone?

You shouldn't need a pre-workout with refine. In 1 serving it looks to have at least 100mg caffeine (could have more though). Which may or may not be enough for you. If it's not you could combo it with 1/2 serving of another pre perhaps. Or just 100mg more caffeine (cheap).

reforge is a test booster of sorts, prob not a very good one. Mostly will give you deeper sleep is my guess. But it's definitely not a PH, they wouldn't sell a PH.

[Daycrawler]

You shouldn't need a pre-workout with refine. In 1 serving it looks to have at least 100mg caffeine (could have more though). Which may or may not be enough for you. If it's not you could combo it with 1/2 serving of another pre perhaps. Or just 100mg more caffeine (cheap).

reforge is a test booster of sorts, prob not a very good one. Mostly will give you deeper sleep is my guess. But it's definitely not a PH, they wouldn't sell a PH.

Yeah. I got my stuff from gnc today. I'm not going to take reforge. At 19, I dont want nor need a hgh/test booster product.... But refine i'll stack with lipo-am on my next cut...

Probably throw it in supp stash for cheap though the reforge