OFFICIAL: poker thread part4

[StickToYourGuns]

I hit an Ace on the flop and bet 2/3rd of the pot UTG. He raised and doubled my bet. I felt a weak draw so I moved all in. He called much to my dismay. He had a club draw (4 to the flush) So I was the favorite but didn't really wanna risk my tournament on it... but thats how it went down. He hit his club draw and I got knocked out just a few places outside of the bubble. Sucks

Not a smart move IMO. After the re-raise you should have folded without a doubt. Why risk going out on the bubble on a 60-40 coinflip. And you could have damn well been easily beaten. What were you expecting him to call with and you be ahead at least 70-30? You wouldn't fold out a strong ace or anything better by going all in, and apparently that guy was feelin ballsy with his flush draw that paid off. sorry dude

[Vigilante_Inc]

Not a smart move IMO. After the re-raise you should have folded without a doubt. Why risk going out on the bubble on a 60-40 coinflip. And you could have damn well been easily beaten. What were you expecting him to call with and you be ahead at least 70-30? You wouldn't fold out a strong ace or anything better by going all in, and apparently that guy was feelin ballsy with his flush draw that paid off. sorry dude

It wasn't my best move the problem was that I needed to make a move soon and I definantly didn't give him credit for an Ace. I figured he may have gotten lucky and and flopped 2 pair or have the exact hand he had there with the club draw. Blinds were 5k and 10k and I had like 30-40k going in. So I commited the extra 5k to call the BB. So i was down to like 20-30 k. I bet 10k into the pot of 15k. Leaving me with only 1-2 blinds if I folded. It makes a lot more sense once I put the money in there. If I win the pot, that I' felt like I was ahead in, then I have enough money to make the money and to make a great plays around the bubble to make some extra money. Just lost the favorable coinflip.

[Smurg]

Played in that local tourney that I won in last week. It paid top 7 places but I ended up getting knocked out in 12th place. I got in with the best hand Post Flop but got drawn out on. I had a weak ace (A2) in the Small blind and called the Half a bet (My thought was that if he had an ace here he would have raised and I could lay down my very weak Ace preflop, if he just checks then I'm likely ahead. If I hit an ace on the flop I can likely take down the pot easily against many inferior holding and maybe even get a call)

I hit an Ace on the flop and bet 2/3rd of the pot UTG. He raised and doubled my bet. I felt a weak draw so I moved all in. He called much to my dismay. He had a club draw (4 to the flush) So I was the favorite but didn't really wanna risk my tournament on it... but thats how it went down. He hit his club draw and I got knocked out just a few places outside of the bubble. Sucks

Played a hella good game all day. Set a huge trap for the BB when I was holding KK and he got froggy with 22. He was quite unhappy about my limp on the button then calling his all-in raise lol

It wasn't my best move the problem was that I needed to make a move soon and I definantly didn't give him credit for an Ace. I figured he may have gotten lucky and and flopped 2 pair or have the exact hand he had there with the club draw. Blinds were 5k and 10k and I had like 30-40k going in. So I commited the extra 5k to call the BB. So i was down to like 20-30 k. I bet 10k into the pot of 15k. Leaving me with only 1-2 blinds if I folded. It makes a lot more sense once I put the money in there. If I win the pot, that I' felt like I was ahead in, then I have enough money to make the money and to make a great plays around the bubble to make some extra money. Just lost the favorable coinflip.

This is tooooo awesome.

Poker will never die, hahaa.

[Vigilante_Inc]

This is tooooo awesome.

Poker will never die, hahaa.

I'm not seeing the problem with this move here. The most questionable part of it was flat calling with the ace I suppose but it seems like the all-in move is a good move here. I get a little bit of fold equity and I thought I was ahead already if he were to call.

Maybe I'm worng... what would have been the ideal play have been here?

[iliftpesos]

REally?
Its 100nl
my stack was $85 and his was about 115.

Pot pre: $9+blinds $1.50=$10.50
Flop: $10.50
Turn: $40.50 after my bet. They needed $15 to call.

if im reading this right then you each invested $29 before the river came .. so you had roughly $56 left behind going to the river. If he hits his flush his implied odds are that he stacks you. That's actually standard. The fact that you call in that spot makes his implied odds really good. Calling your $15 raise to hit 9 outs to win $180 pot .. ish?

[Smurg]

I'm not seeing the problem with this move here. The most questionable part of it was flat calling with the ace I suppose but it seems like the all-in move is a good move here. I get a little bit of fold equity and I thought I was ahead already if he were to call.

Maybe I'm worng... what would have been the ideal play have been here?

Lol, it was mainly the "live poker" talk by fishy people. eg: 'I had a feeling' instead of talking about ranges and your equity against that range.

Then letting your M get to like below 2. When your M is to, then only completing in the SB with a card higher than a J, rofl instead of shoving.

Then being worried when you flop TP with an M of like 1.

And how is TP against a naked flush draw a coinflip? rofl

Also the random use of UTG that doesn't even fit, "doubling my bet", "setting a trap" with KK OTB, etc

[gaussiansurface]

wheres a good place to play for free online?

also whats a good site to play for money?

[Smurg]

wheres a good place to play for free online?

also whats a good site to play for money?

Full Tilt Poker and Pokerstars both.

They're the big 2.

[Wtf?]

Anyone having any trouble making a deposit on ft?

I receved an error about the "third party" not being able to process it. It worked the other day but isn't working now.

[Smurg]

Anyone having any trouble making a deposit on ft?

I receved an error about the "third party" not being able to process it. It worked the other day but isn't working now.

FTP having processor issues atm.

[KingAltoids]

In my head it was a meaningless card because the best he could have had on that board wa a King. Calling a raise on the turn to hit your one suit on the river is not very smart.

are you crushing midstakes yet? i'm going to assume so.

[kzyk85376]

In on this.

Been winning at 50nl for the last couple years and getting raped at 100nl. Goal is to make it to 400nl by the end of the year.

I give you my poker will never die hand of the week.

NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer Game#337661205

KZYK85376 ($52.80)
MZPERX11 ($47.75)
PHOENIXCRO ($91.50)
THPROD ($58.37)
YANKEE_FAN27 ($37.25)
NAKAKATA ($49.85)
FLIPPOKER ($75.20)

KZYK85376 posts (SB) $0.25
MZPERX11 posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to KZYK85376 Ah Ad
fold, fold, fold,
NAKAKATA raises to $1.75
fold,
KZYK85376 raises to $6
fold,
NAKAKATA raises to $18.50
KZYK85376 raises to $52.80 (AI)
NAKAKATA calls $31.35 (AI)
FLOP ($100) Qd 6s 4d
TURN ($100) Qd 6s 4d 3c
RIVER ($100) Qd 6s 4d 3c 3d
NAKAKATA shows 2c 3s
(Pre 13%, Flop 17.7%, Turn 20.5%)

KZYK85376 shows Ah Ad
(Pre 87%, Flop 82.3%, Turn 79.5%)

NAKAKATA wins $97.20

[Scofield]

been crushing 10nl for the last 7 years. goal is to make it to rail heaven by the end of next week.

wish me luck guissse

[Smurg]

been crushing 10nl for the last 7 years. goal is to make it to rail heaven by the end of next week.

wish me luck guissse

Have you seen the 2+2 "Goals" section too?

Every thread is like, I'm depositing $1k this week (for the 10th time). My goal is to grind it up an easy 50k in the next 3 months.

[Smurg]

In on this.

Been winning at 50nl for the last couple years and getting raped at 100nl. Goal is to make it to 400nl by the end of the year.

I give you my poker will never die hand of the week.

NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer Game#337661205

KZYK85376 ($52.80)
MZPERX11 ($47.75)
PHOENIXCRO ($91.50)
THPROD ($58.37)
YANKEE_FAN27 ($37.25)
NAKAKATA ($49.85)
FLIPPOKER ($75.20)

KZYK85376 posts (SB) $0.25
MZPERX11 posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to KZYK85376 Ah Ad
fold, fold, fold,
NAKAKATA raises to $1.75
fold,
KZYK85376 raises to $6
fold,
NAKAKATA raises to $18.50
KZYK85376 raises to $52.80 (AI)
NAKAKATA calls $31.35 (AI)
FLOP ($100) Qd 6s 4d
TURN ($100) Qd 6s 4d 3c
RIVER ($100) Qd 6s 4d 3c 3d
NAKAKATA shows 2c 3s
(Pre 13%, Flop 17.7%, Turn 20.5%)

KZYK85376 shows Ah Ad
(Pre 87%, Flop 82.3%, Turn 79.5%)

NAKAKATA wins $97.20

So why do you grind 50NL FR and then take shots at 100NL SH ?

Your 100NL FR is quite a drop from the 50NL FR too.

[blinkers88]

FTP having processor issues atm.

I havent been able to deposit for fuking weeks. fuk full tilt

[amnotjokin]

anyone know any good training sites?Ive read a few articles on pokerstrategy.com anyone know any others?

[Wtf?]

I'm sure this has been asked before but which gaems on FT are good for practicing/getting better?

I'm really bad at $5 sup turbos and multi table/ 2+ hour long games. The $1 and $2 seem too easy that it's boring.. it's full of donks since nobody really cares about losing a dollar.

[NickA44]

anyone know any good training sites?Ive read a few articles on pokerstrategy.com anyone know any others?

pokerxfactor

[Vigilante_Inc]

Lol, it was mainly the "live poker" talk by fishy people. eg: 'I had a feeling' instead of talking about ranges and your equity against that range.

Then letting your M get to like below 2. When your M is to, then only completing in the SB with a card higher than a J, rofl instead of shoving.

Then being worried when you flop TP with an M of like 1.

And how is TP against a naked flush draw a coinflip? rofl

Also the random use of UTG that doesn't even fit, "doubling my bet", "setting a trap" with KK OTB, etc

Hey I never claimed to be a professional of any sorts

-My M got that low because I actually lost an all-in hand in the BB the previous hand with AKo. SB limped I raised him all-in. He called my raise with a small pair and he faded all my outs. I was all-in on the very next hand. Not to mention the quick blind structures make it very difficult to progress your stack as fast as the blinds progress. Start out with 10k, blinds start at 100/200 and almost double every 15 minutes.

100/200
200/400
400/800
500/1000
1st hr
1000/2000
2000/4000
4000/8000
5000/10000
2nd hr

Tough blind settings when you figure at best 30-40 hands an hour.

-What's wrong with saying "I had a feeling" instead of talking about his range. Intuition is based of experience. You see a certain situation time and time again played out through different people over many years. Down the line you run into the same type of situation even though it's a completely different person. You can kind of get a sense of what he may be holding. You may be wrong you may be right. Right there I felt a draw. Coulda been a bigger ace or a whole multitude of hands since I let him check in the BB (I definantly shouldn't have done that I should have shoved... I definantly agree there. If I shove he probably folds that hands and I improve my M by 1.5.... I don't know why I was thinking limp then bet the flop)

-I wasn't worried about my TP vs. the flush draw just not too excited about going from a comfortable chip stack to possibly being knocked out if any club hits, right around the money, within 2 hands haha

-I was what Like a 65/35 favorite. Far from a coinflip but far from me feeling comfortable

Like I said not a professional. I thought I played pretty well. You're obviously a better player than I am and more than likely get to play way more often than I do too. I actually am a profitable player live Very small time but I actually have made a lil money playing poker. Nothing that justifies the hours I've played but it's way better than losing right

[Wtf?]

You guise ever report anyone for cheating/colliding?

2 people dominating a table constantly going back and forth. When one person would have a loss against someone else...the next hand or so they'd end up against the person and win the chips back. Win/Loss back and forth with the same people.

Can't really explain it other than that but it just didn't look right and it went on for a long time.

[SolidSnake84]

sup poker brahs...haven't posted in these threads for months...anything new goin on? still try and hit up the casinos locally once in a while, but my goals have shifted much more to bulking up lately and playing poker for hours with no food kind of conflicts with it so i havent been playing nearly as much as i used to back in my 24 hours straight session days...gotta say i feel a lot better physically and also mentally to not be addicted as much anymore. still miss it tho and get the cravings every once in a while for live play.

[joelz54_99]

are you crushing midstakes yet? i'm going to assume so.

Need to deposit and see if I dont keep getting sucked out on. Been losing hands when I am 3/1 and 4/1 favorite.

[joelz54_99]

sup poker brahs...haven't posted in these threads for months...anything new goin on? still try and hit up the casinos locally once in a while, but my goals have shifted much more to bulking up lately and playing poker for hours with no food kind of conflicts with it so i havent been playing nearly as much as i used to back in my 24 hours straight session days...gotta say i feel a lot better physically and also mentally to not be addicted as much anymore. still miss it tho and get the cravings every once in a while for live play.

I want to try live. Have you played in Louisianna? Are the players more nitty?

[kzyk85376]

So why do you grind 50NL FR and then take shots at 100NL SH ?

Your 100NL FR is quite a drop from the 50NL FR too.

Honestly at 100NL I've had a lot of run bad and play bad. The games aren't that much harder than 50NL and there are a lot of the same regs. A friend of mine, who is a winning midstakes player, has been coaching/staking me and he has been telling me to try to move up as fast as possible because he says I am definitely good enough to beat 100nl and 200nl as long as I can get my mental game in check.

[SolidSnake84]

I want to try live. Have you played in Louisianna? Are the players more nitty?

nope only in PA and NJ...casino is less than 5 min from my house now which is bad news. the players are the exact OPPOSITE of nitty live...they call with anything preflop and I mean anything...even if it is 3 or 4 bet...call with ANY draw etc...there is money to be made if you are patient, but you get sucked out on a lot more often as people will even call a monster c-bet flop with A high ...it seems like they always assume you have nothing and A high is good...or they'll call u with like 22 and float the flop and end up rivering a set...happens quite often...but in general live is much easier and the players are very loose. you will know who the regs are after playing a few times and learn to go around the 9 PM-4AM hours when half the table is drunk and knows nothing about poker besides what hands beat what. (srs)

[FiLL]

I lol'd



***** Hand History for Game 2049010363 ***** (Entraction)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, January 25, 11:11:36 ET 2011
Table Meco Min 50BB (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Varagh ( $142.37 USD )
Seat 2: Laiskimus10 ( $437.78 USD )
Seat 3: CumAtMeBro ( $156.94 USD )
Seat 4: GEMOTOGEN1 ( $180.25 USD )
Seat 5: grubeusz69 ( $120.69 USD )
Seat 6: GREENSM@RT ( $118.11 USD )
GREENSM@RT posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Varagh posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CumAtMeBro [ Ac Ad ]
Laiskimus10 folds
CumAtMeBro raises [$3.50 USD]
GEMOTOGEN1 folds
grubeusz69 folds
GREENSM@RT raises [$13.50 USD]
Varagh folds
CumAtMeBro raises [$30.00 USD]
GREENSM@RT calls [$19.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 5c, 8h ]
GREENSM@RT bets [$84.61 USD]
CumAtMeBro calls [$84.61 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
GREENSM@RT shows [7h, Th ]
CumAtMeBro shows [Ac, Ad ]
CumAtMeBro wins $234.22 USD from main pot

[Wtf?]

I havent been able to deposit for fuking weeks. fuk full tilt

Yeah, fck this ****. I'm still getting it.

[YesWayNoWeigh]

this is my graph for 45 mans since the 11th need to put in alot more volume though.. and why the fuk do people limp kk or aa, bunch of slack jaw *******s if you ask me

[blinkers88]

I lol'd



***** Hand History for Game 2049010363 ***** (Entraction)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, January 25, 11:11:36 ET 2011
Table Meco Min 50BB (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Varagh ( $142.37 USD )
Seat 2: Laiskimus10 ( $437.78 USD )
Seat 3: CumAtMeBro ( $156.94 USD )
Seat 4: GEMOTOGEN1 ( $180.25 USD )
Seat 5: grubeusz69 ( $120.69 USD )
Seat 6: GREENSM@RT ( $118.11 USD )
GREENSM@RT posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Varagh posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CumAtMeBro [ Ac Ad ]
Laiskimus10 folds
CumAtMeBro raises [$3.50 USD]
GEMOTOGEN1 folds
grubeusz69 folds
GREENSM@RT raises [$13.50 USD]
Varagh folds
CumAtMeBro raises [$30.00 USD]
GREENSM@RT calls [$19.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 5c, 8h ]
GREENSM@RT bets [$84.61 USD]
CumAtMeBro calls [$84.61 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
GREENSM@RT shows [7h, Th ]
CumAtMeBro shows [Ac, Ad ]
CumAtMeBro wins $234.22 USD from main pot

lol wut??? moran. strong username btw