How much Whey Protein is too much?

[Deadpool790]

aside from regular diet how much should I be drinking? I was thinking two scoops 25g of protein each scoop so 50g total per shake.

One shake in the morning one after workout and one before sleep. Too much ?

I'm 5'7 125lbs and yes I eat like a pig....

[comps]

4 scoops a day. If you can afford it and need it since your diet isn't in check then that is your choice. Equal to bw is a good amount for protein.

[ChrisG12]

Have however much as you want, just follow your macros.

And you don't eat like a pig. You probably eat a very average amount of food.

[Gen3r1x]

personally, i limit it to 40g per shake. because the body can only utilize so much protein at once, so some gets wasted. You should really only do about 30g per hour. Whey will be absorbed in about 1-2 hours. So maybe take half the shake, and down the other half an hour or so later. You'll most likely maximize your intake that way.

[Zimano1319]

First of all, you don't need that much protein per serving- your body will probably use the rest for storage and waste it.


But, not to say that your protein is bad at all though!


Usually, the rule of thumb is around 1.5g x Your body weight-
So, 125 pounds is around 187.5g of protein per day.

In order to do this, you NEED to eat many meals per day to take full advantage of your protein-intake.

Say you wake up at 7:00 and have 30g protein( which is the average amount of protein a beginner should take)

2-3 hours later, you would need to take another 30g protein

For your body weight, you can probably get away with 5 meals per day + a protein shake after your workout.

If this is not suitable, drink a protein shake 2 hours after your first meal and count the protein shake as one meal.

[proxy561]

personally, i limit it to 40g per shake. because the body can only utilize so much protein at once, so some gets wasted. You should really only do about 30g per hour. Whey will be absorbed in about 1-2 hours. So maybe take half the shake, and down the other half an hour or so later. You'll most likely maximize your intake that way.

A lot of people don't know that your body can only use so much protein an hour. Personally I do 1 scoop after work out and 1 during the day when I can. thats about 60g a day in shakes alone. I only just started working out again but its what i use to do and it really put some weight on me.

[Jamie94]

First of all, you don't need that much protein per serving- your body will probably use the rest for storage and waste it.


But, not to say that your protein is bad at all though!


Usually, the rule of thumb is around 1.5g x Your body weight-
So, 125 pounds is around 187.5g of protein per day.

In order to do this, you NEED to eat many meals per day to take full advantage of your protein-intake.

Say you wake up at 7:00 and have 30g protein( which is the average amount of protein a beginner should take)

2-3 hours later, you would need to take another 30g protein

For your body weight, you can probably get away with 5 meals per day + a protein shake after your workout.

If this is not suitable, drink a protein shake 2 hours after your first meal and count the protein shake as one meal.

Lolno, No need for stupid numbers of small meals, body can utilize all the protein you shove in it.

[Gen3r1x]

like to know why i was negative repped for my comment... considering its scientific fact....


http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...a-single-meal/


"Oddly, an amino acid mixture designed to mimic the composition of pork tenderloin made the top spot, at 10 g/hour, while whey took a close second at 8-10 g/hour. Other proteins fell in their respective spots below the top two, with little rhyme or reason behind the outcomes. As a matter of trivia, raw egg protein was the most slowly absorbed of them all at 1.3 g/hour."


"The researchers concluded that the ingestion of more than 30 g protein in a single meal does not further enhance muscle protein synthesis."

[maryjane997]

I get 4-6 scoops a day. Take as much as you want.

[Deadpool790]

Have however much as you want, just follow your macros.

And you don't eat like a pig. You probably eat a very average amount of food.

This is what im having for dinner tonight. Prolly wont finish all of it but I will by midnight for my last meal of the day. Oink oink

[Jamie94]

This is what im having for dinner tonight. Prolly wont finish all of it but I will by midnight for my last meal of the day. Oink oink

You can't finish that in one sitting? Whack that on a buffet and eat it 5 times over, and that's lunch!

[Zimano1319]

Lolno, No need for stupid numbers of small meals, body can utilize all the protein you shove in it.

Actually, if you are taking more protein in than your muscles can utilize- your kidneys will be doing some taxing.

[Deadpool790]

You can't finish that in one sitting? Whack that on a buffet and eat it 5 times over, and that's lunch!

Ya im a small guy not anywhere near as big as some of the people on this forum. 5'7 125lbs extremely light for even my height.

[maryjane997]

Actually, if you are taking more protein in than your muscles can utilize- your kidneys will be doing some taxing.

There's plenty of studies showing that increased protein intake does not effect renal functioning. Show me one claiming the opposite.

[ChrisG12]

This is what im having for dinner tonight. Prolly wont finish all of it but I will by midnight for my last meal of the day. Oink oink

Ah, come on. You can eat that in one meal. Then top off your last meal with a shake and pb sandwich or something.

[comps]

Ah, come on. You can eat that in one meal. Then top off your last meal with a shake and pb sandwich or something.

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[hghcraig]

aside from regular diet how much should I be drinking? I was thinking two scoops 25g of protein each scoop so 50g total per shake.

One shake in the morning one after workout and one before sleep. Too much ?

I'm 5'7 125lbs and yes I eat like a pig....

I wouldnt go too high

[Zimano1319]

There's plenty of studies showing that increased protein intake does not effect renal functioning. Show me one claiming the opposite.

I'm not sure what studies you are looking at; I'm quite sure passing too much of anything through your kidneys is bad. I suggested 30g of protein based on HIS body weight, if he were heavier, I would have suggested more.


Here are some research studies:

To quote a study from the american heart association

"Most Americans already eat more protein than their bodies need. And eating too much protein can increase health risks. High-protein animal foods are usually also high in saturated fat. Eating large amounts of high-fat foods for a sustained period raises the risk of coronary heart disease, diabetes, stroke and several types of cancer. People who can't use excess protein effectively may be at higher risk of kidney and liver disorders, and osteoporosis."

to quote medicine.net

"In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University."

Below this statement was a bullet point stating from the research of Gail Butterfield that too much protein causes stress-

"She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:
Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress."




Although, I was not closed-minded on your statement. I did look up if eating more protein was not harmful- didn't find a thing.

[Irinel]

On my whey protein box, it says that you can only take 100 grams a day. And my gym trainer said that if you take more it you **** up you livers so..

[stosman05]

On my whey protein box, it says that you can only take 100 grams a day. And my gym trainer said that if you take more it you **** up you livers so..

how many livers does your trainer have?

[Irinel]

how many livers does your trainer have?

Two or Three, i don't know ! =) lol

[carlostherock]

I'm not sure what studies you are looking at; I'm quite sure passing too much of anything through your kidneys is bad. I suggested 30g of protein based on HIS body weight, if he were heavier, I would have suggested more.


Here are some research studies:

To quote a study from the american heart association

"Most Americans already eat more protein than their bodies need. And eating too much protein can increase health risks. High-protein animal foods are usually also high in saturated fat. Eating large amounts of high-fat foods for a sustained period raises the risk of coronary heart disease, diabetes, stroke and several types of cancer. People who can't use excess protein effectively may be at higher risk of kidney and liver disorders, and osteoporosis."

to quote medicine.net

"In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University."

Below this statement was a bullet point stating from the research of Gail Butterfield that too much protein causes stress-

"She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:
Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress."




Although, I was not closed-minded on your statement. I did look up if eating more protein was not harmful- didn't find a thing.

You didn't post a single study. And strong comprehension of the difference between an athlete with high protein needs opposed to the average sedentary American.

The first quote you used talks about the risks of too much far.

Lol @ the last quote. Inb4protein has no caloric value

Now I'm not saying I know all about protein and any potential risks, but you didn't exactly give any compelling evidence in your favor, whereas I have read studies indicating that your body will make use of a very high protein meal and there is no need to split it into several smaller meals to use the protein content.

[CajunPballer]

Zimano, please go. All of those statements are based on the protein requirements for sedentary individuals which is less than half the recommendation for strength and endurance athletes.

And BTW, Gail Butterfield is a joke. She needs to have her 'PhD' taken away. I don't really care what kind of expert she is or the fact that she lectures at Stanford, I've read multiple idiotic quotes of hers.

150g of protein per day from whey shakes at 125lbs is nonsense, but 150g total isn't terrible.

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[cdk1]

aside from regular diet how much should I be drinking? I was thinking two scoops 25g of protein each scoop so 50g total per shake.

One shake in the morning one after workout and one before sleep. Too much ?

I'm 5'7 125lbs and yes I eat like a pig....[/QUOTE]

Hey man what you should be doing is consuming at least 25to 30 grams per meal which is really good studies have shown that anything over 50g per severing is making your body turn the protein into either fat or energy depending on how much you work out.

[Pilcher1]

This is what im having for dinner tonight. Prolly wont finish all of it but I will by midnight for my last meal of the day. Oink oink

I wouldnt eat that rubbish but if I did I could eat that about 10times over. When you said you ate alot I was expecting 16Egg Whites, 8 Pieces of Chicken, 16oz Steak and some sweet potates to round it off hahaa.

[transformation2]

You didn't post a single study. And strong comprehension of the difference between an athlete with high protein needs opposed to the average sedentary American.

protein requirement for muscle building/body building is between 1.4-1.8g's per kg of bodyweight according to the American Dietetic Association. going by the 1.8 high that's about .8g per lb of BW.

also diets very high in protein reduce testosterone

[Hyruliangoat]

I'm not sure what studies you are looking at; I'm quite sure passing too much of anything through your kidneys is bad. I suggested 30g of protein based on HIS body weight, if he were heavier, I would have suggested more.


Here are some research studies:

To quote a study from the american heart association

"Most Americans already eat more protein than their bodies need. And eating too much protein can increase health risks. High-protein animal foods are usually also high in saturated fat. Eating large amounts of high-fat foods for a sustained period raises the risk of coronary heart disease, diabetes, stroke and several types of cancer. People who can't use excess protein effectively may be at higher risk of kidney and liver disorders, and osteoporosis."

to quote medicine.net

"In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University."

Below this statement was a bullet point stating from the research of Gail Butterfield that too much protein causes stress-

"She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:
Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress."




Although, I was not closed-minded on your statement. I did look up if eating more protein was not harmful- didn't find a thing.

I will prove this entire thing wrongbwhen i get home. Prepare ur anus for pubmed ninja mode

[Maxwell1995]

No more than 3 scoops is needed

[Dawes]

I'm not sure what studies you are looking at; I'm quite sure passing too much of anything through your kidneys is bad. I suggested 30g of protein based on HIS body weight, if he were heavier, I would have suggested more.


Here are some research studies:

To quote a study from the american heart association

"Most Americans already eat more protein than their bodies need. And eating too much protein can increase health risks. High-protein animal foods are usually also high in saturated fat. Eating large amounts of high-fat foods for a sustained period raises the risk of coronary heart disease, diabetes, stroke and several types of cancer. People who can't use excess protein effectively may be at higher risk of kidney and liver disorders, and osteoporosis."

to quote medicine.net

"In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University."

Below this statement was a bullet point stating from the research of Gail Butterfield that too much protein causes stress-

"She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:
Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress."




Although, I was not closed-minded on your statement. I did look up if eating more protein was not harmful- didn't find a thing.

Ah finally, someone who has a degree in food nutrition and broscience.

[OCVeloMan]

protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD

Awesome title LOL, now they're making sh!t up!