has anyone been using shark cartilage for a period of time?

[umustsacrifice]

id love some feed back. im 40 and going to be turning up my training a notch or two and im looking at preventive maintenece . i take glucosamine and chondroitin with msm.. and thought maybe this would be a benifit too. but i also have been reading some side effect and such and would really appreciate anyone opinion or direct experience with this sup. thanks so much for any constructive info.

[umustsacrifice]

still looking for answers..i wont bump again, thanks peeps

[cdsfx]

still looking for answers..i wont bump again, thanks peeps

Not to be a dick but why would eating the cartiledge of a shark help your joints if anything at all? I've never seen any data that really supported this. I'd try cissus thats always worked for me and in my experience was the only one that ever got rid of my joint pain.

[PlzBe18QTPi]

My father is 58 and he takes shark cartilage every day. He says it works for him so thats good enough in my book. You can pick it up pretty cheap at Vitamin Shoppe so you don't have anything to lose.

[umustsacrifice]

Not to be a dick but why would eating the cartiledge of a shark help your joints if anything at all? I've never seen any data that really supported this. I'd try cissus thats always worked for me and in my experience was the only one that ever got rid of my joint pain.

hey i respect evrybodys thoughts bro, no prob, your not being a -ick at all. im just confused because all the research explains why this is good for the joints..i mean thats why im asking about first had use... thanks a lot for taking your time answering.

[cdsfx]

My father is 58 and he takes shark cartilage every day. He says it works for him so thats good enough in my book. You can pick it up pretty cheap at Vitamin Shoppe so you don't have anything to lose.

Okay but what specifically is it about shark cartilage that improves joints?. What properties does it posses that allows it do this?

[Starkk]

Any and all evidence of shark cartilage being beneficial for human beings will be purely anecdotal.

[Black_Spit]

Any and all evidence of shark cartilage being beneficial for human beings will be purely anecdotal.

Not really. There has been a bunch of research on Chondroitin.

Not that there's anything wrong with anecdotal evidence. If we went solely on science in regards to bodybuilding and supplements, we'd all be using a bunch of hmb and glutamine as our main supplements, and I can't tell you how many scientific studies showed that steroids didn't work.

[Starkk]

Not really. There has been a bunch of research on Chondroitin.

Not that there's anything wrong with anecdotal evidence. If we went solely on science in regards to bodybuilding and supplements, we'd all be using a bunch of hmb and glutamine as our main supplements, and I can't tell you how many scientific studies showed that steroids didn't work.

I'm not talking about chondroitin sulfate.

I was referring to shark cartilage. Specifically, the variety the OP is referring to (since he mentioned his is already supplementing with glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM) that has been marketed under various names Carticin, Cartilade, and BeneFin.

You know, the stuff Lane Labs was sued for marketing as a form of cancer treatment, among other things?

Two different products.

[PinchTheBear]

I can't tell you how many scientific studies showed that steroids didn't work.

I can: zero.

[umustsacrifice]

for the feed back guys... but since ive been reading up on this for a month now and i have been training for over 2 decades and supplementing for along time also i feel i have some knowledge myself... its to closed minded of anyone to simply say it does "nothing at all" and then have to tell me you never really researched it or most importantly never used it....thanks though for putting some time into posting. a couple of yall are really young so i would expect this to be something of importance to you yet... unless youve had cartiliage damage or problems..... again thank you for all your input

[cdsfx]

I can: zero.

Well that's not exactly true there was one published in the American journal of medicine during the 60's. The participants took steroids over a period of 6 weeks and had no gains...they also didn't exercise at all lol. But that's the only one I've ever read. I agree we can't always just rely on science. However logically why would essentially eating powdered shark meat help your joints as opposed to any other animal.

[Farley1324]

id love some feed back. im 40 and going to be turning up my training a notch or two and im looking at preventive maintenece . i take glucosamine and chondroitin with msm.. and thought maybe this would be a benifit too. but i also have been reading some side effect and such and would really appreciate anyone opinion or direct experience with this sup. thanks so much for any constructive info.

You should be covered then.

Fish oil?

[PinchTheBear]

they also didn't exercise at all lol

lol is correct. If you find it, post it. I feel like I've seen it, but I need to look at the sample sizes, parameters, variables (e.g. diet), doses (groups), p values, etc. The dose-dependency hasn't been conclusively established in the texts I've read.

[Starkk]

for the feed back guys... but since ive been reading up on this for a month now and i have been training for over 2 decades and supplementing for along time also i feel i have some knowledge myself... its to closed minded of anyone to simply say it does "nothing at all" and then have to tell me you never really researched it or most importantly never used it....thanks though for putting some time into posting. a couple of yall are really young so i would expect this to be something of importance to you yet... unless youve had cartiliage damage or problems..... again thank you for all your input

sigh

okay

[cdsfx]

lol is correct. If you find it, post it. I feel like I've seen it, but I need to look at the sample sizes, parameters, variables (e.g. diet), doses (groups), p values, etc. The dose-dependency hasn't been conclusively established in the texts I've read.

I searched the web and couldn't find it. I know its mentioned in Bigger Faster Stronger though its one of the things the medical community has never lived down lol

[Black_Spit]

I can: zero.

l I feel like I've seen it

Well which is it, hot shot?

This isn't an issue of good vs bad studies. That wasn't my point. Discrediting the study only proves my point. Many studies are badly done. So, it's often useful to use anecdotal evidence with supplementation.

[PinchTheBear]

Well which is it, hot shot?

This isn't an issue of good vs bad studies. That wasn't my point. Discrediting the study only proves my point. Many studies are badly done. So, it's often useful to use anecdotal evidence with supplementation.

My point is that there are no studies that offer statistical evidence to reject the hypothesis "anabolic steroids in conjunction with adequate diet and training influence lean mass gain in a dose-dependent manner".

[cdsfx]

Well which is it, hot shot?

This isn't an issue of good vs bad studies. That wasn't my point. Discrediting the study only proves my point. Many studies are badly done. So, it's often useful to use anecdotal evidence with supplementation.

I don't really see how that proves your point the study was done almost 50 years ago. What it proved was that you actually have to workout to make gains on steroids. Again What is the it about powdered shark meat which helps joints. Why would it help me as compared to eating a steak. You havn't even presented a theory yet on why you think it works whether your own or somebody elses. No one is denying the use of anecdotal evidence. But think about it logically can you name another substance which nobody has any explanation or thoughts as to why it works?

[rezstyle]

I took this for what I found out to be tendon pain (large tendon under knee cap). It did nothing for me.

Just saying. And nothing has worked on in yet so don't get your hopes up too high if it's major tendon issues vs. joint pain/dryness.