Blind belief in Evolution doesn't make you an intellectual

[peterholbrook]

"35 billion years ago"

universe is 11 billion years old

meant to say 3.5 my bad, talking about then scientist think
life began to form

[CrustyLoaf]

I think the main problem with OP's argument is that he thinks that anything that cannot be explained yet = a flaw

[UGK4Life]

there are no "flaws." evolution is supported by every single piece of available scientific evidence. no joke. every piece.

cambrian explosion

[y0y0]

OP you dumb as fawk. evolution has no flaws

[Kreuzritter]

They will always be theories. Scientific theories, experimentally, can only be proven false, they can never be proven true.

yes this is what im saying, we can only speculate... But even in regards to the theory of evolution, None of this even proves that the human race evolved on this planet... it is still as everything else only a theory that we even evolved from apes in the first place.

[jeanbatailleur]

first you assume im a christian, then you assume i've never studied science. i am disappoint.

i take a chemistry, biology, and physics class, and while there is good evidence for evolution (like i said i believe it to an extent), it simply has a lot of flaws

So the fuck what if it has flaws? The technology to properly study it has only been around roughly for the past oh I dunno, 70 years or so, and the flaws are never anything major enough to rock the boat. They're always just like a chip in the cement. Nothing major (at least the ones my idiotic friends have tried to argue against me with).

No sh!t sherlock there are some things that aren't known because science hasn't scoured the whole world grain by grain yet because religious *******s and technology haven't let them. Just because you don't know something right motherfucking now doesn't mean in 10 years time it will still be unknown. Jesus Christ. Science isn't instant coffee where you can have all of your answers in 10 minutes or less.

[KennyK]

Evolution is a flawed theory still, so why do people blithely accept it as set-in-stone fact? Why are you automatically labelled stupid or ignorant if you even question the evolutionary process?

Notes: Religion in no way affects my thoughts. This is not a thread about religion.

I definitely believe exists, just not on the scale that everything has evolved from a single cell/bacteria

no, but my pipe, fez and smoking jacket do make me an intellectual

[bmy-]

they existed somewhere. wow thanks for that. please to be explaining abiogenesis

lmao. you moron. it happened or we would not be here -- the mechanics of abiogenesis are up for debate. fact is -- it happened somewhere and at some time.

what do you suggest happened OP?

[Kreuzritter]

meant to say 3.5 my bad, talking about then scientist think
life began to form

we can only judge this by what we can see. and the universe expands beyond 49128394812349 times what you could see with the best telescope, so when they say its 11... they are guessing. and if you think they are right, then theres nothing that can help you... its just simply beyond your thought construct.

[Del-Valle]

cambrian explosion

The Cambrian Explosion occurred because of the sudden and vast amount of territory now available for colonization, due to previous evolution into bigger and tougher lifeforms, leading to a kind of gold rush, with many thousands of phyla trying out every single, imaginable adaptation to take advantage of the situation.

What's the problem with that?

[bigbawlsy]

please point out the specific part of evolution that you think is flawed

[GrokTheCube]

Evolution is a flawed theory still, so why do people blithely accept it as set-in-stone fact? Why are you automatically labelled stupid or ignorant if you even question the evolutionary process?

Notes: Religion in no way affects my thoughts. This is not a thread about religion.

I definitely believe exists, just not on the scale that everything has evolved from a single cell/bacteria

I agree. It's almost as easy to dismiss as less complete theories like magnetism or electricity.

[UGK4Life]

The Cambrian Explosion occurred because of the sudden and vast amount of territory now available for colonization, due to previous evolution into bigger and tougher lifeforms, leading to a kind of gold rush, with many thousands of phyla trying out every single, imaginable adaptation to take advantage of the situation.

What's the problem with that?

sudden and evolution in the same sentence. lulz

[UGK4Life]

please point out the specific part of evolution that you think is flawed

I truly don't see how the digestive system could have developed by evolution. If someone can explain this, it'd definitely help me to accept evolution wholly

[bmy-]

sudden and evolution in the same sentence. lulz

uh, sudden was referring to territory as in.. they suddenly had access to new land. not that they suddenly evolved. no wonder you have issue with evolution -- you can't fukking read

now, what do you propose as an alternate theory?

[drifterxs12]

So the fuck what if it has flaws? The technology to properly study it has only been around roughly for the past oh I dunno, 70 years or so, and the flaws are never anything major enough to rock the boat. They're always just like a chip in the cement. Nothing major (at least the ones my idiotic friends have tried to argue against me with).

No sh!t sherlock there are some things that aren't known because science hasn't scoured the whole world grain by grain yet because religious *******s and technology haven't let them. Just because you don't know something right motherfucking now doesn't mean in 10 years time it will still be unknown. Jesus Christ. Science isn't instant coffee where you can have all of your answers in 10 minutes or less.

irate

[TheBroseidon]

Depends what you're talking about.

Microevolution is a fact.

Macroevolutionary theory is just what the name implies. There are undoubtedly some truths to the theory, but to claim that an ever-changing study of such a complex theory is a stone cold fact is foolish.


I don't think anyone in this topic, myself included, is qualified enough to make many statements beyond this, so inb4 massive indignant Christian vs condescending athetist debate.

[Del-Valle]

sudden and evolution in the same sentence. lulz

Sudden in the sense of geologic time. They don't call it the Cambrian explosion for nothing.

[snooter511]

evolution is a set in stone fact

there are no "flaws." evolution is supported by every single piece of available scientific evidence. no joke. every piece.

This.

Although there is still debate about a lot of details like what EXACTLY causes the mutations in organisms (they appear to be random though). EVERY major prediction of the theory of evolution can be and has been verified. It is not blind faith. People talk about the term "scientific theory" as if it is just a guy in his basement dreaming up **** and getting it published. As soon as a scientist formally publishes a theory (after his/her own years of research and data collection) the entire scientific community comes down on it in an attempt to dis-prove/verify it. Scientific consensus is not an overnight process.

[lancs_hotpot]

Ive read loads of arguments on these boards about the flaws in the evolution theory. I dont understand most of it because i havent studied it in that much detail. You can call me blind but a id rather take the word of respected scientists such as Dawkins than you or any other unqualified clever cloggs on this forum.

[UGK4Life]

uh, sudden was referring to territory as in.. they suddenly had access to new land. not that they suddenly evolved. no wonder you have issue with evolution -- you can't fukking read

now, what do you propose as an alternate theory?

luzl i comprehended perfectly. cambrian explosion was a time period, sudden acess to new land =/= super accelerated evolution.

note: you did indeed say sudden and evolution in the same sentence, u mad?

[bp16]

first you assume im a christian, then you assume i've never studied science. i am disappoint.

i take a chemistry, biology, and physics class, and while there is good evidence for evolution (like i said i believe it to an extent), it simply has a lot of flaws

read the Greatest Show on Earth *******.

brb I took a bio course and read an article on evolution and am trying to sound smart.jpg

[peterholbrook]

we can only judge this by what we can see. and the universe expands beyond 49128394812349 times what you could see with the best telescope, so when they say its 11... they are guessing. and if you think they are right, then theres nothing that can help you... its just simply beyond your thought construct.

i am not arguing for evolution, i thinks it a joke how my prof always say they think it
was around 1.5 billion years ago that this happened..

orly what if it was actually 2.5 billion years ago? dooes a billion years make any difference?

[IronBuilt]

You expect people to witness evolution first hand? There's flaws because it's millions of years of observation and some mistakes are bound to be made.

[stevedarsh]

This.

Although there is still debate about a lot of details like what EXACTLY causes the mutations in organisms (they appear to be random though). EVERY major prediction of the theory of evolution can be and has been verified. It is not blind faith. People talk about the term "scientific theory" as if it is just a guy in his basement dreaming up **** and getting it published. As soon as a scientist formally publishes a theory (after his/her own years of research and data collection) the entire scientific community comes down on it in an attempt to dis-prove/verify it. Scientific consensus is not an overnight process.

eh i forgot the name of the experiment but mutations are proven to be random. theyre caused by natural processes (replication errors, chemical mutations, cosmic radiation, recombination)

[stevedarsh]

sudden and evolution in the same sentence. lulz

evolution can work in a sudden fashion.



once again, an ignorant person claiming he knows something

[bp16]

i am not arguing for evolution, i thinks it a joke how my prof always say they think it
was around 1.5 billion years ago that this happened..

orly what if it was actually 2.5 billion years ago? dooes a billion years make any difference?

then that completely fuks up the timeline of events on earth.
i dont see what there is to think it is a joke.

[CleverNickName]

i am not arguing for evolution, i thinks it a joke how my prof always say they think it
was around 1.5 billion years ago that this happened..

orly what if it was actually 2.5 billion years ago? dooes a billion years make any difference?

wtf?

A billion years makes a HUGE difference considering that the universe is only around 13.7 billion years old. A billion years is a significant amount of time in history.

[kwyjibo]

[oM3gA]

we were planted here on earth by ET. Not exactly planted but our DNA has been modified so that we could become more "intelligent" than the previous version of human species. But as far as i know the society that we currently live in will only lead to our extinction. What we should be doing by now is live in a world were money or any currency for that matter doesn't exist, everyone gives and contributes in return to live and prosperous life.