best times to take protein??

[dano15w]

what the best times to take protein and how many times a day should you take it??should you take the same amount of shakes on your off days aswel??thanks

[wygdwicfy]

what the best times to take protein and how many times a day should you take it??should you take the same amount of shakes on your off days aswel??thanks

Best time to take whey- Immediatly after workout.

Best time for Caesin (proly spelled it wrong)- Right before bed.

And honestly, i often dont take protein on my off days :P

[ThanksIKnow]

what the best times to take protein and how many times a day should you take it??should you take the same amount of shakes on your off days aswel??thanks

I usually only drink shakes post workout and try to get my protein from other sources

but morning is good, whey protein is quickly absorbed, and when you wake up it is what youd want. but for me i eat dem eggs

[CajunPballer]

Best time to take whey- Immediatly after workout.

Best time for Caesin (proly spelled it wrong)- Right before bed.

And honestly, i often dont take protein on my off days :P

Maaaaad broscience.

I usually only drink shakes post workout and try to get my protein from other sources

but morning is good, whey protein is quickly absorbed, and when you wake up it is what youd want. but for me i eat dem eggs

This here. You can drink it anytime you like, but I like drinking it first thing when I wake up while I'm cooking breakfast.

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[xStriker7]

Best time to take whey- Immediatly after workout.

Best time for Caesin (proly spelled it wrong)- Right before bed.

And honestly, i often dont take protein on my off days :P

no wonder why you look like ****...


Whey about 30 minutes Post Workout.
Casein anytime you need a slow digesting protein.
Off days, split evenly all day long while you're growing.

[dano15w]

no wonder why you look like ****...


Whey about 30 minutes Post Workout.
Casein anytime you need a slow digesting protein.
Off days, split evenly all day long while you're growing.

i workout 5 time a week so i was thinking 1 in the morning mixed with creatine then 1 after workout with creatine.and that 5 times a week then on my non-trainig days i was thinkin 1 in the morning and 1 before bed??does that make sense?thanks

[thomasxc]

I start drinking whey 15-30 minutes after workout.

[pearldrumguy]

for a while on top of 4-5 meals a day i took four shakes day. Got good results. Just space it out. If you eat a good meal, wait about an hour before the shake. Its good to take in the morning and after workouts. What i do myself if drink them when i cant get food and i try to not go more then 3-4 hours without eating

[TomBerry]

1 scoop whey with breakfast

2 scoop whey straight after workout

1 scoop casein before bed

[CajunPballer]

no wonder why you look like ****...


Whey about 30 minutes Post Workout.
Casein anytime you need a slow digesting protein.
Off days, split evenly all day long while you're growing.

i workout 5 time a week so i was thinking 1 in the morning mixed with creatine then 1 after workout with creatine.and that 5 times a week then on my non-trainig days i was thinkin 1 in the morning and 1 before bed??does that make sense?thanks

1 scoop whey with breakfast

2 scoop whey straight after workout

1 scoop casein before bed

There's no reason you have to be downing shakes immediately post workout. And CERTAINLY no reason to be wasting TWO scoops..

That's also too much creatine OP. Once you are saturated you can easily hold saturation at <5g per day.

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[TomBerry]

dumbest comment i've read today

[stoli6046316565]

humor me, or not. just clarifying..

Maaaaad broscience.



This here. You can drink it anytime you like, but I like drinking it first thing when I wake up while I'm cooking breakfast.

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why is post workout whey broscience? I get that you don't NEED whey post workout but I do get the impression you NEED carbs/protein in some form, little as meal timing matters post workout is the one I usually consider credible.

There's no reason you have to be downing shakes immediately post workout. And CERTAINLY no reason to be wasting TWO scoops..

whats wrong with 2 scoops? I mean, if it's 50g+ of protein sure you don't need it, but why is it a problem? I thought the 20g limit on protein digestion was broscience.. so 2 scoops would be fine, especially if it helps you reach macros?

That's also too much creatine OP. Once you are saturated you can easily hold saturation at <5g per day.

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Yea, I agree, but I still think he's got the right idea taking it pre and post workout. Lots of meats like steak have creatine, right, so <2.5g pre and <2.5g post with whey seems ideal to me if you can't get a streak/lean source of protein after your workout.

[winjones]

There's no reason you have to be downing shakes immediately post workout. And CERTAINLY no reason to be wasting TWO scoops..

That's also too much creatine OP. Once you are saturated you can easily hold saturation at <5g per day.

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this... there's a lot of bro science in this thread OP

have some simple carbs after your workout... followed by protein

why is post workout whey broscience? I get that you don't NEED whey post workout but I do get the impression you NEED carbs/protein in some form, little as meal timing matters post workout is the one I usually consider credible.


whats wrong with 2 scoops? I mean, if it's 50g+ of protein sure you don't need it, but why is it a problem? I thought the 20g limit on protein digestion was broscience.. so 2 scoops would be fine, especially if it helps you reach macros?

Of course your body needs protien/carbs...

But there is no way your body will absorb 50 grams of whey protein in one sitting (this applies to most of us)... you can take it if you want... but you'll just be wasting your money.

Just spread it throughout the day. OR take some of it pre workout... and than some post.

It's better to to just have simple carbs after a workout than follow that with your protein.

[CajunPballer]

dumbest comment i've read today

GTFO. Every post I've ever read made by you has been dumb or loaded with broscience.

humor me, or not. just clarifying..


why is post workout whey broscience? I get that you don't NEED whey post workout but I do get the impression you NEED carbs/protein in some form, little as meal timing matters post workout is the one I usually consider credible.


whats wrong with 2 scoops? I mean, if it's 50g+ of protein sure you don't need it, but why is it a problem? I thought the 20g limit on protein digestion was broscience.. so 2 scoops would be fine, especially if it helps you reach macros?



Yea, I agree, but I still think he's got the right idea taking it pre and post workout. Lots of meats like steak have creatine, right, so <2.5g pre and <2.5g post with whey seems ideal to me if you can't get a streak/lean source of protein after your workout.

Because the "anabolic window" is actually many hours 12, 24, even 48 hours post exercise can still have elevated protein synthesis. Nutrient timing is only somewhat important, and that is not post workout. PRE workout nutrients and nutrient timing is FAR more important than post workout.

Regarding the above post, I appreciate the back up, but the simple carbs thing is broscience as well. The need for "fast digesting" carbs is only important if you were lifting in a fasted state, such as in the morning before breakfast, or if you are a marathon runner or endurance athlete of some form. Weight training does not come even close to draining intramuscular glycogen.

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[TomBerry]

y u mad brah

[stoli6046316565]

Of course your body needs protien/carbs...

But there is no way your body will absorb 50 grams of whey protein in one sitting (this applies to most of us)... you can take it if you want... but you'll just be wasting your money.

Just spread it throughout the day. OR take some of it pre workout... and than some post.

It's better to to just have simple carbs after a workout than follow that with your protein.

Hmm, I do only take one scoop post, but I always had the impression the "absorb in one sitting" argument was broscience itself.. it's not like the whey is ejected after 20 minutes, it just sits in your stomach digesting..

Because the "anabolic window" is actually many hours 12, 24, even 48 hours post exercise can still have elevated protein synthesis. Nutrient timing is only somewhat important, and that is not post workout. PRE workout nutrients and nutrient timing is FAR more important than post workout.

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thanks, i've always dislike eating before physical activity, but that's changed dramatically in the past few months since I've read stuff like this, so good to know something i'm doing isn't arbitrary.. also, the fact that I forgot to bring a postworkout whey this morning is now trivial, because I can get food at my convenience at some point after lifting to the same effect, great.

[bmontgomery87]

what the best times to take protein and how many times a day should you take it??should you take the same amount of shakes on your off days aswel??thanks

throughout the day.

I take some before my workout and some after. And usually take a scoop be4 bed

[CajunPballer]

Hmm, I do only take one scoop post, but I always had the impression the "absorb in one sitting" argument was broscience itself.. it's not like the whey is ejected after 20 minutes, it just sits in your stomach digesting..

thanks, i've always dislike eating before physical activity, but that's changed dramatically in the past few months since I've read stuff like this, so good to know something i'm doing isn't arbitrary.. also, the fact that I forgot to bring a postworkout whey this morning is now trivial, because I can get food at my convenience at some point after lifting to the same effect, great.

It's true that whey is not "ejected after 20 minutes" and depending on what else is in your stomach or what else you took the whey with it can take a few hours to fully digest. That being said there isn't an infinite amount of protein your body can utilize at one time. If you "overload" your body with protein that it has no need for, the protein will be used for energy by being converted to carbohydrates, and in the end, fat.

By PREworkout I mean 1.5-1 hour(s) before.

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[dano15w]

There's no reason you have to be downing shakes immediately post workout. And CERTAINLY no reason to be wasting TWO scoops..

That's also too much creatine OP. Once you are saturated you can easily hold saturation at <5g per day.

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that was my loading phase im planning on doing for a week then ill be cuttting back to 10gs a day with my protein?

[dano15w]

GTFO. Every post I've ever read made by you has been dumb or loaded with broscience.




Because the "anabolic window" is actually many hours 12, 24, even 48 hours post exercise can still have elevated protein synthesis. Nutrient timing is only somewhat important, and that is not post workout. PRE workout nutrients and nutrient timing is FAR more important than post workout.

Regarding the above post, I appreciate the back up, but the simple carbs thing is broscience as well. The need for "fast digesting" carbs is only important if you were lifting in a fasted state, such as in the morning before breakfast, or if you are a marathon runner or endurance athlete of some form. Weight training does not come even close to draining intramuscular glycogen.

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if the label says 2-3 scoops per serving would that not mean im meant to be taking 4-6 scoops in a day if i was to take it in the morning and after a workout??from your experience do you i think its better off to be having 1 scoop in the morning another 1 after my workout and 1 more just before bed??im getting way to confused with all this disputing so i said to myself whoever is the biggest im going to use there advice!!thanks man

[majortak]

@Cajunbballer

WHILE you're cooking breakfast? WTF how much do you eat in the morning?

[FLChamp]

Take it whenever you want. It's just food; not like it's magic or anything.

[TomBerry]

10g creatines still to much brah

[Bon]

It's true that whey is not "ejected after 20 minutes" and depending on what else is in your stomach or what else you took the whey with it can take a few hours to fully digest. That being said there isn't an infinite amount of protein your body can utilize at one time. If you "overload" your body with protein that it has no need for, the protein will be used for energy by being converted to carbohydrates, and in the end, fat.

By PREworkout I mean 1.5-1 hour(s) before.

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And how does this support your original statement (that 2 scoops protein is a "waste")? Lol surely you don't think that 2 scoops (avg. 24g protein per scoop) is an "overload"?

Overloading will only occur if (as you mentioned) you consume more protein than the body needs during the day. And even for the average sedentary non-weightlifter, 2 scoops of protein is not considered an overload.

Drinking 2 scoops of protein is perfectly fine and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

if the label says 2-3 scoops per serving would that not mean im meant to be taking 4-6 scoops in a day if i was to take it in the morning and after a workout??from your experience do you i think its better off to be having 1 scoop in the morning another 1 after my workout and 1 more just before bed??im getting way to confused with all this disputing so i said to myself whoever is the biggest im going to use there advice!!thanks man

We need more input from you before we can give a clear answer.

How much protein is in a single scoop?
How much protein do you aim for in a day?

As for the timing of the protein shakes, morning and pre-workout are the best choices.

@Cajunbballer

WHILE you're cooking breakfast? WTF how much do you eat in the morning?

Weight gainer shake, 6 eggs, bowl of oats, banana, glass of milk.
Pretty standard bulking breakfast.

[LaneCraig]

if the label says 2-3 scoops per serving would that not mean im meant to be taking 4-6 scoops in a day if i was to take it in the morning and after a workout??from your experience do you i think its better off to be having 1 scoop in the morning another 1 after my workout and 1 more just before bed??im getting way to confused with all this disputing so i said to myself whoever is the biggest im going to use there advice!!thanks man

you should look at it not as much how many servings but how many grams you're taking in. unless you're freakishly huge about 20-30g of protein per shake will be plenty. you just cant process more effeciently and it will be a waste. so if your serving's three scoops and there is 60 grams of protein per serving you only need to take one or 1.5 scoops in your shake.

60 grams would just be a waste and gets you to spend more money. a larger number of grams per serving is just a marketing scheme for companies to get people to think more protein per serving is better, not necessarily true.

I'd say just spread out your meals evenly (one of my meal's timing just happens to be close to post workout so i drink a shake) so you've got protein in your system pretty consistently

[Bon]

you should look at it not as much how many servings but how many grams you're taking in. unless you're freakishly huge about 20-30g of protein per shake will be plenty. you just cant process more effeciently and it will be a waste. so if your serving's three scoops and there is 60 grams of protein per serving you only need to take one or 1.5 scoops in your shake.

False.
Your body WILL use the protein that you drink.
Your body does not utilize 30g of protein, then look at the rest of the protein sitting in your gut and say "well I'm too lazy to use this for later, so imma just sh!t this out".

60 grams would just be a waste and gets you to spend more money. a larger number of grams per serving is just a marketing scheme for companies to get people to think more protein per serving is better, not necessarily true.

Yes the companies want you to drink more, because that gets them more money in the long run.
But wrong that 60g of protein would be a waste.

I'd say just spread out your meals evenly (one of my meal's timing just happens to be close to post workout so i drink a shake) so you've got protein in your system pretty consistently

Can't really say this is wrong or right. There are valid arguments for both points.
Nothing wrong with spreading out your protein intake, but it's also not very necessary.

[Bon]

That's also too much creatine OP. Once you are saturated you can easily hold saturation at <5g per day.

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True, the body only needs about 5g of creatine a day.
However you are incorrect in thinking that this will be accomplished from only 1 single scoop of 5g creatine.

Not all of that creatine that you drink with your shakes is fully digested. In fact Will Brink suggests that in the typical weightlifters protein/creatine/whatever shake, only about half of it (the creatine) will be fully digested.
So ideally, if you are trying to get 5g of creatine, you will need more than a single 5g scoop

[CajunPballer]

if the label says 2-3 scoops per serving would that not mean im meant to be taking 4-6 scoops in a day if i was to take it in the morning and after a workout??from your experience do you i think its better off to be having 1 scoop in the morning another 1 after my workout and 1 more just before bed??im getting way to confused with all this disputing so i said to myself whoever is the biggest im going to use there advice!!thanks man

Like Bon said, we need more info. I don't know what a "scoop" of your protein is..

@Cajunbballer

WHILE you're cooking breakfast? WTF how much do you eat in the morning?

Answered below.

And how does this support your original statement (that 2 scoops protein is a "waste")? Lol surely you don't think that 2 scoops (avg. 24g protein per scoop) is an "overload"?

Overloading will only occur if (as you mentioned) you consume more protein than the body needs during the day. And even for the average sedentary non-weightlifter, 2 scoops of protein is not considered an overload.

Drinking 2 scoops of protein is perfectly fine and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

As for the timing of the protein shakes, morning and pre-workout are the best choices.

Weight gainer shake, 6 eggs, bowl of oats, banana, glass of milk.
Pretty standard bulking breakfast.

Agreed with bold. Sometimes I substitute the oats for hashbrowns, and instead of a weight gainer I just drink whey, and I usually have a sausage patty as well.

Regarding the first part, no I do not think that 50-60g is an "overload" but as everyone always says, it's far better to get your protein from whole food sources, not whey. He said he was drinking 4 scoops a day. So on average that's 96-120g from whey alone. Which is unnecessary.

True, the body only needs about 5g of creatine a day.
However you are incorrect in thinking that this will be accomplished from only 1 single scoop of 5g creatine.

Not all of that creatine that you drink with your shakes is fully digested. In fact Will Brink suggests that in the typical weightlifters protein/creatine/whatever shake, only about half of it (the creatine) will be fully digested.
So ideally, if you are trying to get 5g of creatine, you will need more than a single 5g scoop

There is new science that suggests you don't need 5g per day to maintain optimum creatine levels. A few of the guys in the supplement section are strong supporters of this. I forgot his name so I can't find the article he posted but it clearly said 5g ED is not needed. You can even go a few days with 0g regularly (such as non training days).

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[dano15w]

10g creatines still to much brah

yeh i thought that to but it seems that most people on this take 10g

[dano15w]

And how does this support your original statement (that 2 scoops protein is a "waste")? Lol surely you don't think that 2 scoops (avg. 24g protein per scoop) is an "overload"?

Overloading will only occur if (as you mentioned) you consume more protein than the body needs during the day. And even for the average sedentary non-weightlifter, 2 scoops of protein is not considered an overload.

Drinking 2 scoops of protein is perfectly fine and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.




We need more input from you before we can give a clear answer.

How much protein is in a single scoop?
How much protein do you aim for in a day?

As for the timing of the protein shakes, morning and pre-workout are the best choices.



Weight gainer shake, 6 eggs, bowl of oats, banana, glass of milk.
Pretty standard bulking breakfast.

the protein is ON whey 24 grams of protein and im 179lb