Proof low-carb high-protein is the way to go

[MuscleHero]

From Jack Weatherford’s book Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World

“The Chinese noted with surprise and disgust the ability of the Mongol warriors to survive on little food and water for long periods; according to one, the entire army could camp without a single puff of smoke since they needed no fires to cook. Compared to the Jurched soldiers, the Mongols were much healthier and stronger. The Mongols consumed a steady diet of meat, milk, yogurt, and other dairy products, and they fought men who lived on gruel made from various grains. The grain diet of the peasant warriors stunted their bones, rotted their teeth, and left them weak and prone to disease. In contrast, the poorest Mongol soldier ate mostly protein, thereby giving him strong teeth and bones. Unlike the Jurched soldiers, who were dependent on a heavy carbohydrate diet, the Mongols could more easily go a day or two without food.”

[zimbar]

true, you dont need carbs
which is why theres no such thing as "essential carbohydrates" while there's "essential amino acids" and "essential fatty acids"

[Mighty Matt]

They ate raw or dehydrated meat or what?

[AZthetics]

They ate raw or dehydrated meat or what?

Probably raw.

[blacksmith77]

OP welcome to 2010. We aren't warriors anymore, let's face it. No one will eat like this based just on some book about mongols

[xtraviolent]

Modern society has had to adopt a grain/carb based diet because they wield far more production compared to protein based food.

It roughly takes 60, 108, 168, and 229 pounds of water to produce a pound of potatoes, wheat, corn and rice respectively. Beef however, requires 12,000 gallons of water.

Animal consumed 100 kg of hay and 4 kg of grain per 1 kg of beef produced.

[Nonsense916]

Changed my diet recently Eating High protein and staying away from anything that has a lot of carbs (bread,Cereal,oatmeal) and my body has never looked so good.

[Kooobe]

Probably raw.

no way, bro

[ausluke]

for all we know you could have written that quote yourself

[vazquez]

proof that -

no steriods needed

20% protein, 60% carbs, 20% fat

fullbody workouts 3x a week


IS THE WAY TO GO

[fleabass11]

They ate raw or dehydrated meat or what?

naw brah...they kept their meat in salt back than...or hunted and cooked it daily....

[aintevenmad]

proof that -

no steriods needed

20% protein, 60% carbs, 20% fat

fullbody workouts 3x a week


IS THE WAY TO GO

60% carbs? please shut up. get diabetes all you want, but don't drag the misc down that road with you.

EDIT: Also, for a male consuming 3000 calories for maintenance, 20% protein is 600 calories worth. This is 150 grams of protein. Not enough to maintain muscle mass for a lifter weighing 180+ pounds

[swole-striation]

some people are different in terms of how they react to carbs

for me, my body functions great at 100grams of carbs a day, as long as i got a high protein diet, i stay vascular and lean through out the year

only have high carb day on sat or sun to replenish my glysogen stores

[Mighty Matt]

naw brah...they kept their meat in salt back than...or hunted and cooked it daily....

Well....it mentioned no fire..........

[Lux-Veritas]

naw brah...they kept their meat in salt back than...or hunted and cooked it daily....

watch Bizzare Foods: Mongolia...

This...

in my country, whenever they kill a sheep or other livestock, they still salt the hell out of it, and let it dry out. and it can be eaten raw if desired.

[fleabass11]

Well....it mentioned no fire..........

watch Bizzare Foods: Mongolia...

them Mongolians stuff heated rocks into the goats and cooked them that way...

[notsureifsrsss]

Ill just leave this here:


Large version: http://jap.physiology.org/content/vo...pp0510902.jpeg

[Ausswolf]

Modern society has had to adopt a grain/carb based diet because they wield far more production compared to protein based food.

It roughly takes 60, 108, 168, and 229 pounds of water to produce a pound of potatoes, wheat, corn and rice respectively. Beef however, requires 12,000 gallons of water.

Animal consumed 100 kg of hay and 4 kg of grain per 1 kg of beef produced.

This just means we have passed carrying capacity for human beings on earth who eat a natural diet (meat, veg, fruit etc). Your solution is to eat a **** diet based on grains that causes health problems so we can allow even more people to have even larger families. Then what? Its a vicious cycle, next you'll have someone on here saying not only cant we eat meat but we can no longer eat fruit and vegetables any more and must rely solely on genetically modified grains...

edit: holy **** just re-read your first sentence, ^^^ this is actually what you are suggesting, GTFO.

[ukero]

60% carbs? please shut up. get diabetes all you want, but don't drag the misc down that road with you.

EDIT: Also, for a male consuming 3000 calories for maintenance, 20% protein is 600 calories worth. This is 150 grams of protein. Not enough to maintain muscle mass for a lifter weighing 180+ pounds

150 grams not enough to maintain.. pls go


oh and u mad?

[blacksmith77]

the fact is if mongol warriors lived in the society we live in today , they would probably eat carbs for performance/recovery

[AntonioWright]

true, you dont need carbs
which is why theres no such thing as "essential carbohydrates" while there's "essential amino acids" and "essential fatty acids"

Go ahead a try sprinting for 100m's. I am all for low carb. However to say, you don't need carbohydrates is absurd.

[bornfrompain]

you don't need carbs at all.

paleo diet, look into it. I don't do it myself, at least not yet, but there is no doubt that almost everything out there right now is not good for you.

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This just in: we know more about health, fitness and diet than we ever have - ever.

[N01SYtZ]

theres a ****load of simple carbs in dairy products
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[bornfrompain]

Go ahead a try sprinting for 100m's. I am all for low carb. However to say, you don't need carbohydrates is absurd.

why is it absurb? Saying that you don't need water, protein or fat is absurd. Like he said, there is no essential carbohydrate...we've just been fed grains for generations so much that if that is what there is, that is what the body will use.

[N01SYtZ]

why is it absurb? Saying that you don't need water, protein or fat is absurd. Like he said, there is no essential carbohydrate...we've just been fed grains for generations so much that if that is what there is, that is what the body will use.

you're ****in retarded bro
i bet you're a hipster type person

carbs are essential for ENERGY
you know what we need energy for??
EVERYTHING
protein / fat can be used as energy but its a ****ty source.

[tendulkar]

60% carbs? please shut up. get diabetes all you want,

American Diabetes Association:

"Myth: Eating too much sugar causes diabetes.
Fact: No, it does not. Type 1 diabetes is caused by genetics and unknown factors that trigger the onset of the disease; type 2 diabetes is caused by genetics and lifestyle factors. Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories, whether from sugar or from fat, can contribute to weight gain."

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/

excuse me? women should leave the arguing to men and just return to the kitchen.

edit: all of you people are retarded. just eat a normal 40/40/20 split or 33/33/33 or 30/40/30 split doesnt fking matter just get in a good amount of proteins and keep everything reasonably level. If trying to cut just cut calories and calm down.

[Ultra_Magnus]

90% of asians are lactose intolerant......except for mongols. They are only like 9%

[aintevenmad]

150 grams not enough to maintain.. pls go


oh and u mad?

Anyone lifting weights should have atleast 1gram protein per lb of bodyweight.

Pls go.

[blacksmith77]

why is it absurb? Saying that you don't need water, protein or fat is absurd. Like he said, there is no essential carbohydrate...we've just been fed grains for generations so much that if that is what there is, that is what the body will use.

go read Alan Aragon's 'Girth Control' and his Research Reviews

A protein only , protein/fat only diet for endurance/stamina is NOT optimal