Keto Diet

**bigtrey37** · 12-01-2010, 09:04 AM

I did a keto diet a while back and it worked great. The problem is that I can't find the diet now. It was given to me by an Army recruiter buddy of mine. Does anyone know how to find this diet. It had very strict foods and servings.

**Kenshinhimora** · 12-01-2010, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by bigtrey37

I did a keto diet a while back and it worked great. The problem is that I can't find the diet now. It was given to me by an Army recruiter buddy of mine. Does anyone know how to find this diet. It had very strict foods and servings.

Yes there is an entire forum for it...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=61

Please note that keto diets show no improvement in fat loss over other high protein diets.

**DennisR1977** · 12-01-2010, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Kenshinhimora

Yes there is an entire forum for it...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=61

Please note that keto diets show no improvement in fat loss over other high protein diets.

That's not entirely true. I for one respond way better to a keto diet.

**trance__dreamer** · 12-01-2010, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by DennisR1977

That's not entirely true. I for one respond way better to a keto diet.

you have an easier time controlling calories on keto. & you get encouraged by the lack of water weight.

**DennisR1977** · 12-01-2010, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by trance__dreamer

you have an easier time controlling calories on keto. & you get encouraged by the lack of water weight.

I can control calories fine. I have tried keto and a diet with carbs both for 2 months with the same calorie amounts. I did better with the keto diet. One size does not fit all in terms of dieting.

**bigtrey37** · 12-01-2010, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by DennisR1977

I can control calories fine. I have tried keto and a diet with carbs both for 2 months with the same calorie amounts. I did better with the keto diet. One size does not fit all in terms of dieting.

Dennis do you have the diet I'm looking for?

**bigtrey37** · 12-01-2010, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kenshinhimora

Yes there is an entire forum for it...

[Please note that keto diets show no improvement in fat loss over other high protein diets.

I'm aware there is an entire forum...It just so happens that nowhere in that entire forum my question was answered so please don't clutter up my thread with your self proclaimed physician chat..I thought my question was pretty direct....I guess not. As far as your last comment you are incorrect. The purpose of the keto diet I'm looking for is to put your body into a temporary state of ketosis, not a cyclic keto diet

**DennisR1977** · 12-01-2010, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by bigtrey37

Dennis do you have the diet I'm looking for?

There are several different types of keto. I'm not sure which one you did. What were you eating? Did you have carb ups?

**DennisR1977** · 12-01-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by bigtrey37

I'm aware there is an entire forum...It just so happens that nowhere in that entire forum my question was answered so please don't clutter up my thread with your self proclaimed physician chat..I thought my question was pretty direct....I guess not. As far as your last comment you are incorrect. The purpose of the keto diet I'm looking for is to put your body into a temporary state of ketosis, not a cyclic keto diet

He's just trying to help. He's not totally incorrect either. What works for him, just mite not work for another. Some people do better eating higher carbs as well.

**Darkwatcher758** · 12-01-2010, 12:01 PM

Keto had some amazing results but I went crazy while on it and got depressed.. I also had trouble using the restroom which gave me a whole bulky feel and made me discouraged. It�s the days I cheated and had carb ups that I noticed all my weight loss after being able to comfortably use the bathroom!

**Clamz** · 12-01-2010, 01:01 PM

cals in/ cals out. People see results on keto because they get more protein since they cut out a whole macro in carbs.

**DennisR1977** · 12-01-2010, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Clamz

cals in/ cals out. People see results on keto because they get more protein since they cut out a whole macro in carbs.

Again, not totally true. I kept the protein the same, and just adjusted my fat calories. True keto has the same protein as in a carb based diet. Keto is 65F/30P/5C.

**MdFitness** · 12-01-2010, 03:55 PM

keto cutting is not really considered a high protein diet, its protein intake according to lean mass weight the rest if fat calories.

now a keto bulk could have a ton of extra protein due to trying to add weight and almost anything I eat on keto has plenty of fat and protein.

I think anybody on this site would be considered on a high protein diet according to the normal recommendations for regular people.

**bigtrey37** · 12-01-2010, 05:06 PM

The one I'm looking for is a 7 day diet to put your body into keto...not a prolonged keto diet..I couldnt imagine living my life in keto...I assume I would go crazy too haha

**DennisR1977** · 12-01-2010, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by bigtrey37

The one I'm looking for is a 7 day diet to put your body into keto...not a prolonged keto diet..I couldnt imagine living my life in keto...I assume I would go crazy too haha

I've never heard of one like that. It takes a couple of days to get into ketosis, so only doing it for a couple more days beyond that are kind of useless. I love keto.

**MdFitness** · 12-01-2010, 05:34 PM

actually keto is lifestyle for many people. even some on here been doing it for many years.

very easy diet to survive on, fairly cheap as well.

**misslola2006** · 12-01-2010, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by MdFitness

actually keto is lifestyle for many people. even some on here been doing it for many years.

very easy diet to survive on, fairly cheap as well.

affordable, not easy for me though!~

**bigtrey37** · 12-02-2010, 05:12 PM

Its a 7 day diet

**msm00b** · 12-02-2010, 05:43 PM

There is nothing magical about keto diets. A balanced protein/fat/carb diet that is weighted a little heavier towards the protein side will give your body better longterm results. People get infatuated with the keto diet because you do lose a lot of weight very quickly ... largely thanks to water weight losses from a carb depleted system. Since most people only diet in short bursts (which is why chronic dieters often fail), they don't see the weight loss plateau that inevitably occurs once that water weight is already gone. Like it or not your body needs dietary fat and carbs as much as it needs protein, and a calorie restricted diet that's reasonably balanced is honestly the best route.

Food for thought: Once you carb up, all that water-weight you lost doing keto will come back lickity-split.

I think anybody on this site would be considered on a high protein diet according to the normal recommendations for regular people.

Yep, and I myself am not entirely sure that the whole 1gm per LBM pound isn't entirely broscience. I'm sure that consuming 50-75% of this "recommended" protein level would yield similar results. Having said that, I love meat ... so it's no skin off my nose. I'll gladly eat my weight in protein

**iversonmourning** · 12-03-2010, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by MdFitness

actually keto is lifestyle for many people. even some on here been doing it for many years.

very easy diet to survive on, fairly cheap as well.

I wouldn't say it is any cheaper than a traditionally balanced diet. Proteins like meat, eggs, chesses, etc are expensive! carbs on the other hand are relatively cheap. With that being said, I have done both approaches, not a big fan of keto. I'll stick to 1g protein LBM, .4-.5 fats, and fill the rest w carbs =)

**iversonmourning** · 12-03-2010, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by msm00b

Yep, and I myself am not entirely sure that the whole 1gm per LBM pound isn't entirely broscience. I'm sure that consuming 50-75% of this "recommended" protein level would yield similar results. Having said that, I love meat ... so it's no skin off my nose. I'll gladly eat my weight in protein

I have read that optimal can be as low as .7 LBM

**bigtrey37** · 12-06-2010, 10:09 PM

Another hijacked thread

**Autonomisc** · 12-06-2010, 10:12 PM

Here are 101 foods to eat on Keto.

Red Meat. The bulk of your diet should consist of red meat. Red meat has protein & fat, both needed in the Anabolic Diet. Most feel better with steak. But there�s plenty to choose from.

1. Beef. Chuck is economical & has 20% fat.

2. Pork. I�m not big a fan of Pork, however it�s good source of protein & fat.

3. Lamb. Tender & flavored. Very fatty meat.

4. Ground. I love hamburgers. Chuck & beef contain good amounts of fat.

5. Dried Meats. Beef jerky, Bresaola, �

6. Bacon. American Bacon, Streaky Bacon, Fresh Bacon, Pancetta,�

7. Sausages. Chorizo, Pepporini, Merguez, �

8. Salami. Corned Beef, Baloney, Calabrese, Soppressata, �

9. Ham. Ardennes Ham, Jambon de Bayonne, Prosciutto, Prosciutto di Parma, Jamon Serrano, Jamon Iberico, �

Poultry. White meats are less fatty than red meats. Eat white meats for variety, but keep in mind that you need animal fat on the Anabolic Diet. Go for the darker meat (thighs/legs) & eat the skin.

10. Chicken. I like whole chicken: eating everything up to the bones.

11. Turkey. Leaner than Chicken.

12. Duck. Wild ducks are very fat.

13. Goose. Less fatty than Duck, but fattier than Chicken.

14. Ground Chicken. Hamburgers from Ground Chicken are good for a change.

15. Ground Turkey.

16. Fowl. Good source of protein, but lean meat.

17. Pheasant. Same as fowl: good for protein, but low fat.

Fish. Fish are a good source of Omega 3. Omega 3 will help your testosterone levels & fat breakdown. I�m not a big fish eater to be honest.

18. Anchovies. Rinse the salt of before using.

19. Carp.

20. Catfish.

21. Herring.

22. Mackerel.

23. Salmon. Salmon Steaks, Smoked Salmon, �

24. Sardines. I like them grilled with a salad in the summer.

25. Sturgeon.

26. Trout.

27. Tuna. Try tuna steaks vs. tuna out of a can.

Shellfish

28. Crab.

29. Lobster. Occasionally.

30. Mussels. Steamed Mussels.

31. Prawns. Grilled with a salad.

32. Shrimps. Fry them in Olive Oil with garlic.

33. Squid.

34. Calamari. Fry in Olive Oil, serve with a salad.

Dairy. Eggs is your best source of protein & fat next to Red Meat. Eat them at breakfast. Cheese is High Protein/High Fat. Use it with your meat, eggs, veggies or as snack.

35. Eggs. Omelets, Scrambled Eggs, Deviled Eggs, � Eat the yolk.

36. Italian Cheese. Mozzarella, Provolone, Taleggio, Parmesan, Pecorino, Romano, Gorgonzola, �

37. French Cheese. Brie, Camembert, Comte, Roquefort,�

38. Swiss Cheese. Emmental, Gruy?re, Raclette,�

39. Dutch Cheese. Gouda, Edam, �

40. Other cheese: Monterey Jack, Cheddar, Feta,�

41. Heavy Whipping Cream. Has close to 40% fat. Use it in your coffee, with your veggies or in your Post Workout Shake.

Fats. You�ll get plenty of saturated fat from the Red Meat, Eggs & Cheese. Balance with Omega 3 & Omega 9 fats for even better results.

42. Fish Oil. Liquid form or caps, great source of omega 3.

43. Cod Liver Oil. Omega 3, vitamin A, vitamin D.

44. Flax oil. Great with salads.

45. Butter. I cook everything with olive oil. You can use butter for a change.

46. Argan Oil. North African oil, I use it with salads & omelets (Omega 6).

47. Olive Oil. Omega 9. Go for Extra Virgin Cold Pressing.

Nuts. Nuts are a good source of protein & fat. Great as snack or in salads. Keep your intake to 100g a day to stay within the Anabolic Diet Guidelines.

48. Almonds.

49. Cashew.

50. Hazelnuts.

51. Pecans.

52. Pine Nuts. Use them with Olive Oil for Pesto.

53. Pistachio.

54. Walnuts.

Veggies. All your meals should contain veggies. Veggies are healthy, contain fiber & vitamins, great to fill your stomach.

55. Asparagus.

56. Avocado. Has fat.

57. Brussels Sprouts. I like this with Olive Oil, Onions & Pepper Spice.

58. Broccoli. Boil, then grill in the oven with Parmesan.

59. Cauliflower.

60. Cabbage. Green, white or red Cabbage. Add pieces of Bacon.

61. Celery.

62. Chicory. Ham, cheese & chicory. Put in the oven. Enjoy.

63. Cucumbers.

64. Eggplant. Scrambled Eggs with Eggplant & Garlic.

65. Garlic.

66. Green Beans. Fry them with Onions.

67. Lettuce. Green or red leaf.

68. Mushrooms. All kinds.

69. Olives. Black, green, red.

70. Onions.

71. Peppers. Bell Peppers, Red, Green, Yellow Peppers, Chili Peppers, �

72. Pumpkin.

73. Radish.

74. Salad. Romaine, Iceberg, Spring Salad Mix, �

75. Shallot. Scrambled Eggs with Tuna, Green Pepper & Shallot.

76. Spinach. Great with steak or with Eggs.

77. Zucchini. Scrambled Eggs with Zucchini, Tomato & Ground Round.

Fruits. Fruits contain carbs (fructose). From Monday to Friday eat high fiber/high water content fruits. Leave all other fruits for the weekend. Here�s what you can eat in the week:

78. Berries. Strawberries, Blueberries, Black Berries, Raspberries,�

79. Watermelon. High Water content.

Flavorings. Give your food taste. Learn to cook with spices & herbs. You can use all of them as much as you want.

80. Vinegar. Add Balsemic Vingegar to your salads.

81. Mayonnaise. Full fat kind. Eat it with your salads, steak, �

82. Condiments. Mustard, Harissa, �

83. Herbs. Oregano, Thyme, Basil, �

84. Spices. Too many to list. I use lots of pepper & cumin.

Beverage. Keep the alcohol for the weekend. Most contain sugar.

85. Water. Drink a Gallon of Water Daily.

86. Green Tea. Full of anti-oxidants. Don�t overdo it, large quantities of Green Tea Affects Your Sleep.

87. Diet Soda. I don�t drink soda, but if you do go for light/diet soda.

Supplements
88. Whey. I prefer meat to whey. If it makes your life easier, go for it.

89. Flax Seeds. You need at least 20g of fiber a day. Buy flax seeds. Eat it with berries or with your salad.

Carbs. Saturday & Sunday are carb loading days. Keep it clean in the weekend, better to avoid couch coma.

90. Bread. Whole grain, Sandwich, �

91. Cereal.

92. Corn.

93. Fruits. Banana, raisins, apples, oranges, �

94. Honey. I like Honey with bread, oats, pancakes, �

95. Milk. A classic.

96. Oats. Try oats with peaces of apples & cinnamon in the microwave.

97. Pancakes. Great at breakfast with honey or fruit.

98. Pasta. Spaghetti, Tricolor, Cappellini, Cannelloni, Lasagna, �

99. Peas.

100. Potatoes. Sweet Potatoes, Yams, �

101. Rice. Long grain, brown rice, Thai rice, �

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