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    Dips or CGBP for throwers?

    See title. It's only for assiatnce work, just wondering. I throw shot and disc.
    COMPETITION BESTS:
    4kg shot - 13.70m
    5kg shot (U17) - 12.55m
    6kg shot (JUN) - 11.39m
    1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
    1.75kg discus (JUN) - 29.70m
    5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
    6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
    800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m

    AGE - 15

    Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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    Decline Skull Crushers, OH DB/BB Extensions along with the Dips & CGBP.
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    Originally Posted by labradarep View Post
    Decline Skull Crushers, OH DB/BB Extensions along with the Dips & CGBP.
    Cheers
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    Originally Posted by labradarep View Post
    Decline Skull Crushers, OH DB/BB Extensions along with the Dips & CGBP.
    There is a slight problem:

    my triceps get hit on each of my three WO's be it indirectly (bench, military, CGBP) or directly (extensions, pushdowns)

    And I have a feeling that adding in dips would be overtraining. But I don't know if dips>CGBP or dips<CGBP.
    COMPETITION BESTS:
    4kg shot - 13.70m
    5kg shot (U17) - 12.55m
    6kg shot (JUN) - 11.39m
    1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
    1.75kg discus (JUN) - 29.70m
    5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
    6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
    800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m

    AGE - 15

    Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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    Dips>>> cgbp
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    Originally Posted by desteph View Post
    Dips>>> cgbp
    cheers my man, but if you could, shoudl you do both?
    COMPETITION BESTS:
    4kg shot - 13.70m
    5kg shot (U17) - 12.55m
    6kg shot (JUN) - 11.39m
    1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
    1.75kg discus (JUN) - 29.70m
    5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
    6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
    800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m

    AGE - 15

    Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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    http://startingstrength.com/articles...wers_starr.pdf

    here's an article on strength training for throwers
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    Without knowing your goals, your routine, your schedule, your lift numbers, your experience, your weakpoints, it is definitly hard to recommend much of anything.

    Lifts are just tools to improve weaknesses, we have no idea what your weaknesses are.
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    Originally Posted by godsangina2 View Post
    http://startingstrength.com/articles...wers_starr.pdf

    here's an article on strength training for throwers
    Once again, your unhelpful comments have no place here. I've stated that I've READ through the SS site and frequently ask question on there too.

    GTFO of my threads, I checked your posts - and I realised that you have no goals, you never say what you are, why your here, what sport you do, etc. You never post your lifts or your creds, and comment on seemingly random combos of threads. Your signature is trying to convince us all your not a troll (classic sign of a troll).
    COMPETITION BESTS:
    4kg shot - 13.70m
    5kg shot (U17) - 12.55m
    6kg shot (JUN) - 11.39m
    1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
    1.75kg discus (JUN) - 29.70m
    5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
    6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
    800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m

    AGE - 15

    Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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    Originally Posted by SuicideGripMe View Post
    Without knowing your goals, your routine, your schedule, your lift numbers, your experience, your weakpoints, it is definitly hard to recommend much of anything.

    Lifts are just tools to improve weaknesses, we have no idea what your weaknesses are.
    Note all lifts are in KILOS (1kg = 2.2lbs)

    Squat - 125kg
    Bench - 82.5kg
    Press - 50kg
    Snatch - 40kg
    Cleans - havent done for a while, but best was 67.5kg
    CGBP - 60kg

    I've jerked 67.5kg, and push pressed over 50kg several times. Neither were max efforts.
    COMPETITION BESTS:
    4kg shot - 13.70m
    5kg shot (U17) - 12.55m
    6kg shot (JUN) - 11.39m
    1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
    1.75kg discus (JUN) - 29.70m
    5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
    6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
    800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m

    AGE - 15

    Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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    Son, I was just trying to help you by posting an article on good lifts for throwers.

    I never make any claims because I'm not going to back them up so what's the point? You can take my input or leave it, I don't care.
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    Originally Posted by godsangina2 View Post
    Son, I was just trying to help you by posting an article on good lifts for throwers.

    I never make any claims because I'm not going to back them up so what's the point? You can take my input or leave it, I don't care.
    "Your throws suck" - good input? No, it's not. Why? Becuase they don't suck. In the UK, that puts me at a top level - and I made them all, from standing, without a coach.

    "Get on Rippetoes now" - the program I've been doing for the past year which stopped working? The program wich DOESNT improve throws once lifts start to slow down (in terms of bar speed).
    COMPETITION BESTS:
    4kg shot - 13.70m
    5kg shot (U17) - 12.55m
    6kg shot (JUN) - 11.39m
    1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
    1.75kg discus (JUN) - 29.70m
    5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
    6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
    800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m

    AGE - 15

    Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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    Originally Posted by Willhu12 View Post
    "Your throws suck" - good input? No, it's not. Why? Becuase they don't suck. In the UK, that puts me at a top level - and I made them all, from standing, without a coach.

    "Get on Rippetoes now" - the program I've been doing for the past year which stopped working? The program wich DOESNT improve throws once lifts start to slow down (in terms of bar speed).
    Well the slow lifts (squat, deadlift) make you better at the fast lifts (powersnatch, powerclean) which make you better at throwing.

    And if that's the level in the UK then ok I guess.
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    Just lift heavy and fast.... and get a coach....
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    Originally Posted by throwyo View Post
    Just lift heavy and fast.... and get a coach....
    Hard to find a coach right now my man, so all I ahev is my back garden and the complete book of throws.
    COMPETITION BESTS:
    4kg shot - 13.70m
    5kg shot (U17) - 12.55m
    6kg shot (JUN) - 11.39m
    1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
    1.75kg discus (JUN) - 29.70m
    5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
    6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
    800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m

    AGE - 15

    Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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